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my cousin, who is a Methodist pastor, wrote this on his Facebook page today:

Wow! It has become the Bill Clinton Hour! This conversation borders on the rediculous. A woman stands by her husband, for what ever reason, and is condemned. Very Cool. I thought the election was about experience and who has the best ability to run the country. Guess I was wrong!! People need to get real and try to attain some understanding about what running a coutry involves. As I have mentioned before, there have been no perfect candidates, all were human, in the past nor will there be in the future. So getting beyond the foibles, personalities, mistakes and wrongs, who of the current canidates has the most experience? If people want to go into politicol rhetoric and just blame all the ills and woes on the current administration, I would suggest a study of our system of checks and balances. No one person or persons makes all the policies of the government, it is give and take with many compromises. To blame the current pres or a paticular party is the easy way out. To go one and one about emails show a lack of focus on the real issues of the country, a convenient way to shift away from those issues. No secrets were divulged in the emails that damaged the country in any way, some even being classified after the fact. No hue and cry about the originator of those possible confidential emails! DT's best answers for everything is to blame someone else or whip up paranoia about what ever he thinks the audience wants to believe. He not the first to do that, it has happened in the past. He has shown no leadership ability. Business acumen, not hardly, he lost a billion dollars!! His strategy for the security of the country, keep people out because of their religion! How would he handle ISIS, secret plan or maybe bomb them into oblivion along with any incidental civilians, which happens from time to time now and how is that working out? Why is he behind in the polls, its a plot by the liberal media, they are not truthful, polls aren't to be trusted, unless they agree with you!! His mouth spouts more trash taling on a daily basis than what goes on in football game!! Is their anyone he doesn't blame? What, where or when has he demonstrated leadership? The buck stop with the leader, but according to him it can be anyone else but him. I hear much naivete about what it takes to run this country in todays world or even in the past. So far all of the hue and cry has been of the 'personality dislike' type rather than ability. What I see being spouted by Trump supporters and printed on the clothing they wear and placards should leave sane people shaking their heads. Of course not allof them are acting that way, but DT openly encourages such and is the originator of thought for such. A president has to appoint knowledge people because the pres can not be an expert on everything. Do people really think DT's ego would allow that? I don't believe he is smart enough to pick the right people, even though he claims to know more than all the generals about running a war. Lets get off this whole sex issue and discuss the real issues facing the country or would that strain our minds too much?? (let the , I likie fresh garden grown tomatoes...)

And worth noting that he made those comments on the bus shortly after getting married to his current wife. Just wanted to affirm this. It seems a very Christian response to infidelity of a spouse, IMHO.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-bill-clinton-accusers/index.html Worth a read. Also worth noting that the Starr investigation is clear that Monica Lewinsky set out to seduce Bill Clinton by, among other things, flashing her thong and flirting. She was 25. Infantilising grown women and making others responsible for their choices in not championing or protecting women. Bill Clinton clearly has been unfaithful to his wife many times. There is no solid evidence that any of these encounters were non-consensual. There is no solid evidence that Hillary intimidated any of these women. The differences in the level of 'moral outrage' are quite understandable in the context of the actual evidence (rather than febrile imaginings). Bill is not running for office. Hillary is... and she is a woman who has managed to make a marriage work for 41 years, despite her husband's failings as a husband. Her opponent is on his third marriage and has also spoken in the recently released (but 11 year old) tape of hitting on married women. The person who is actually running for office, then, Hillary Rodham Clinton, has protected and defended her marriage for 41 years... and that's something to celebrate and support, not something to damn.

Joe had just recently become Orthodox and was looking to get married so he went to his friend Mike was who trying to become a part time shadchan – matchmaker. Joe was a little worried about this whole blind date business especially the idea of going out with someone he'd never seen before. "What do I do if I don’t find her attractive in the slightest?" says Joe. "I'll be stuck with her all evening." "Don't worry," Mike says, "just go up to her door and meet her first. If you really can’t stand the way she looks just shout 'Aaaaaauuuggghhh!' and fake an asthma attack." So that night, Joe knocks at the girl's door and when she comes out he is awe-struck at how attractive she is. He's about to speak when the girl suddenly shouts: "Aaaaaauuuggghhh!"

Moishe and Miriam, both a bit stubborn, were involved in a petty argument, both of them unwilling to admit they might be in error. "I'll admit I'm wrong," Miriam told her husband in a conciliatory attempt, "if you'll admit I'm right." Moishe agreed and, like a gentleman, insisted she go first. "I'm wrong," Miriam said. With a twinkle in his eye, Moishe responded, "You're right!"

It's not just Americans, the SdA Church is born of and steeped in a culture of independence, free-thinking and rebellion. The Seventh-day Adventists pioneers often rebelled against the leadership of their previous congregations and churches, which were often Methodist. The Methodists had arisen in rebellion against the established Church of England. The Church of England was the result of Henry VIII's rebellion, and Henry VIII had been encouraged and emboldened by Martin Luther's and Jean Calvin's respective rebellions against Rome. The Roman Catholic Church arguably arose in rebellion against the Eastern bishops who insisted upon equality with the Bishop of Rome. And the Apostolic and early churches themselves were in rebellion against the civil and religious authorities of antiquity. Week after week SdA pastors exhort their membership "don't take my word for it - read the Bible for yourselves". But when people take this advice to heart and read the Bible for themselves, don't be surprised that some will come to conclusions that differ from those of the ecclesiastical hierarchy. And people will not easily abandon contrarian beliefs which came about through personal study. The 16th Century Catholic Bishops correctly predicted what would happen to ecclesiatic authority once the Bible were to be held up as having greater authority than counsels of bishops. In this respect we are the intellectual heirs of Luther. The SdA hierarchy may attempt to counter our heritage and try to shoehorn this unruly and independent-minded people into a culture of deference to episcopal office on matters of faith, morals and ecclesiology, but the effort is doomed to fail, for this is not who we are.

Multiple posts have discussed the idea that Monica (and perhaps others) set out to seduce President Bill Clinton. Our society today, and professional organizations, strongly consider that sexual relationships between two person with a major difference of power to be ethically wrong. E.G. Teaching organizations will typically consider that sexual relations between a teacher/professor and a student to be wrong. Sexual relations between a counselor and a counselee are considered wrong. From this standpoint a sexual relationship between the U.S. President and an Intern represents a major power difference and is considered wrong. Personally I believe that such should be considered legal rape. Sometimes it is and at other times and places it is not legally rape. Where it is not, I believe that the law should be changed. Perhaps Monica and some of the others set out to seduce Bill Clinton? I do not know. But, I do know this that in any situation where such a power difference exists the person with the power should be able to recognize that transference is occurring and be able to appropriately respond. While it may be true that Monica has some responsibility, the major responsibility rests with the former President. It is on him that blame must be focused. NOTE: Transference is normal in humans. It is just as likely to be negative as it is to be positive. IOW, transference can result in a person strongly disliking another person.

It should be noted that many years ago, a female served as President of the Iowa Conference for a short period of time. But, that was prior to the policy that forbid women from doing such.

In our quest for finding the bottom of the political cesspool, I think it might be important to have a serious discussion about the alleged affair of Abraham Lincoln... Or the slave mistresses that resulted in bastard children of Thomas Jefferson... or the despicable nature of Andrew Jackson... Or how about that real crook, Richard M. Nixon... or how about let's talk about the many criminal convictions for the fall guys in the Ronald Reagan administration... That's all relevant to this election, isn't it? Just a reminder it is Hillary Clinton that is running for president. And Donald Trump. If their spouses are to be fair game, let's talk about Melania. About her soft porno photos. About her sketchy immigration to the US and alleged working as an illegal alien. About her plagiarized speech. About her falsified educational history. And it seems evident that she may have thus far done that horrible thing of standing by her man, like someone named Hillary...

He who lives in a glass tower should be more careful about throwing stones...

I heard that Trump said he was going to turn Bill Clinton into Bill Cosby. This reminds me of Haman in the book of Esther who plotted the demise of Mordechai only to find that he had built his own gallows. With every accusation he throws at Clinton he's reminding every woman he ever groped and assaulted what he did to them. Apparently, there are now five. My prediction is that the number of women that come out will exceed Bill Cosby by the time it's all over. It's not hard to see what's coming.

Which is what I said. Allegations without evidence. Juanita Broadrick has recanted her accusation several times when to proceed would have constituted perjury, but then re-stated it when it was safe for her to do so. And so on. Lots of accusations, none of them proved. Innocent until proven guilty of abuse and predation. Proven guilty of adultery.

Nope. I was not saying any of that. *Of course* Bill is responsible for his actions. He was unfaithful. That's wrong and reflects very badly on him. I would say I judge him for it... but under Jesus' definition of adultery (though not the usual definition) I'm as guilty as him. My point was simply that Monica and his other mistresses were also accountable for their own actions. Monica was not a helpless ingenue as she has sometimes been portrayed here. She made choices, as an adult. So did Bill. Still, Bill is not running for office. If he were, these decisions of his would be relevant. As it is, Hillary is the one running for office, and her decision was to stand by her marriage despite her partner's failings.

That's who I thought! Answer: Sarah Sliverman, Robert Downey Jr., and Julia Louis-Dreyfus were all cast members fired from the late-night sketch comedy show Saturday Night Live. Contrary to popular belief, Steve Martin was never a cast member on the show. The misconception stems from the fact that he has hosted the show 15 times, in addition to doing occasional surprise appearances. Steve Martin is the only person to host a season premiere, a season finale, and a Christmas show and is the only person to host the show three times in a single season. (He did the "wild and Crazy guys" so many times, I thought for sure he was a cast member!!!!!!!)

Thanks Martn It has been a while since I heard from you. The situation has worsened and Iran will go to war with the US before January 20 2017 (My educated guess is that the war with Iran is what Mr. Obama will use to turn on the Constitution and stay in office.If he is out of office, that would not fit the prophecy as I currently understand it ). This morning it came to my attention that the war could even come between now and November 1. We are in the 10 Days of Awe with Yom Kippur being next Tuesday-Wednesday.