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I've posted this before, but will again here. There were no "candles" in the wilderness Tabernacle. There was a lamp-stand, with small oil lamps at the top end of each "branching" arm. The lamp-stand had six branching arms, 3 on each side, and one central post, also with a lamp at the end. The first press, extra fine, olive oil that was used to fill each lamp - that oil represented the Spirit, which "fills" us. The lamps were the vehicle for the oil. Acts 1:8 "But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." Revelation 11, describes conditions at the very end of this age. The Beast (His head recovered from the deadly wound) will rule the globe, and will persecute the people of God. Revelation 11:4 [The Two Witnesses] They are "the two olive trees" and the two lampstands, and "they stand before the Lord of the earth." The word translated as "trees" (olive trees) can also be translated as "olive branches". If you recall, the Israel of God was depicted as an "olive tree" (Romans Cpt 11, Jer. 11:16). Branches were broken off, and branches were grafted in. The last two branches left on the tree, will be the "two witnesses" during the prophesied 1260 days. Revelation 1:20 "The seven lampstands which you saw are the seven churches". Starting with 7 Churches (7 lampstands), 5 are "removed" because they fail to repent. Rev. 2:5 [Spoken to Ephesus] "repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place" . 7 minus 5 = 2. 2 Lampstands left standing before the Lord in the Heavenly Tabernacle, and 2 branches left attached to the Olive Tree. As to the DEATH of the "Two Witnesses" : 1. They are witnessing for Christ and for His Gospel. 2. They can witness because they are filled with the Holy Spirit. Acts 1:8 "But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." 3. The Beast will execute them, or will at least make it a death penalty offense to witness for the truth as it is in Jesus. This FITS with Daniel 12:7. Daniel 12:7 "Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished." Seems the only way to shut the last Witnesses up, is to kill them. The Two Witnesses are compared with Elijah and Moses, because they preach the Elijah message - "Choose ye this day, whom you will serve", and the Moses message, "Remember the Law of the LORD, to keep it".

It is true that the prophecies pointed to a perfect offering. The Messiah would be perfectly obedient to God. Yes. But saying that He would not sin, is not the same as saying that He could not sin. It goes back to the argument about God's foreknowledge. If God sees the future, does He make the future. Does God manipulate the will of man, to make him do certain things? I do not believe that He does.

And I would add that holding an extreme minority view, does not identify that view as "wrong". Jesus' disciples were in the extreme minority - in Judea, in the Roman Empire, in the world. But they were right.

Maybe during "the 8th day". Hard to separate symbolism from hard facts about the future.

Good luck and best wishes - my Family just lost someone that we were doing our best to look after both in and out of the hospital.

The Synodal letter of Nicaea specifically calls out Arius' teaching that Christ could have sinned and lost his salvation is identical to Ellen White's teaching - I show this to you with quotes from Ellen and scores of SDA Pioneers and you purport I've ; "made many attempts on the forum to associate Adventists with certain beliefs and history" . Also claiming that I'm using out of context and partial quotes to explain this matter to people". That's not an honest assessment of the material I've posted & you know it. The Creeds of Nicaea, Constantinople & the Apostles systematizes Scripture. "He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried & the third day he rose again ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES...." Christ HAD TO "rise again" otherwise it wouldn't have been "according to the Scriptures". Matthew 16, 20: Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day". That is Jesus explicitly identifying Himself AS The Christ. Jesus did this many times. John 1, 45: Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. Jesus says, after His Resurrection, that before He died He told his Apostles that EVERYTHING written about Him HAD TO BE FULFILLED. John 24, 44: And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Now there are 3 Scriptures out of around 100 that I've found in the Bible that say IF Jesus would have sinned he WOULDN'T have been "The Christ" in the 1st place. IF there is any concept easy to find in the Bible it's that God does not fail, EVER. Jesus declared himself to be God Almighty when He said what He did to John's Disciples. Luke 7,20: When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight. Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. The Jews who heard that would have been absolute in their understanding that Jesus was claiming to be God. Isaiah 35,4: Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. Did you watch the Godhead Symposium that Gregory Matthews posted? Let me ask you directly - do you say those SDA's who gave the presentation reflect "current Adventist belief"? Or do you say they don't?