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Bravus: May you have a happy holiday today, September 24, as you celebrate the birthday of the Queen. NOTE: Yes, I am aware that most of Australia celebrates the birthday of the Queen on June 11. But, Western Australia has chosen to celebrate it on September 24. So, I have chosen to remind you of this today.

Your points and observations are right on!!

I'm guessing this was a 'tongue-in-cheek' comment. But it does point out that all to often persons think the Bible is all about their '.org'. I believe the 'church' of Christ is the world and we don't know how many are being 'added daily'.

In this day and age, a couple tassels might be appropriate.

5 Things You Didn't Know About Neptune On September 23, 1846, German astronomer Johann Gottfried Galle discovered the planet Neptune, the eighth planet in our solar system. To celebrate this landmark event in astronomical history, here are five things you probably didn't know about the planet Neptune... If It Weren't for Uranus' Orbit Misbehaving Mathematically, Neptune Might Not Have Been Spotted Until Later No one was really searching for a new planet in 1846. However, astronomers who were trying to calculate the orbit of Uranus noticed that they couldn't easily pin down the planet's location mathematically—many times the calculations were off by several degrees. One theory was that another planet was exerting a gravitational effect on Uranus, and two astronomers were able to calculate the existence of this supposed planet, which turned out to be Neptune. Had Uranus' orbit been predictable, no one would have thought to look for another planet just beyond Uranus. It Only Recently Completed Its First Orbit Since Its Discovery Neptune takes 165 Earth years to complete one orbit around the sun. That means that Neptune only completed its first orbit in 2011 since its discovery. The Controversy Over Who First "Discovered" Neptune Was Somewhat Manufactured Three people are currently credited with discovering Neptune. Two are scientists who worked independently of each other on calculations to prove a planet was affecting Uranus' orbit. These were British mathematician, John Couch Adams, and French astronomer, Urbain Le Verrier. Adams didn't share his results widely, but Le Verrier openly tried to find people to check out his numbers. German astronomer Johann Galle did so a day after receiving the information, and sure enough, he spotted Neptune just one degree away from where Le Verrier had predicted it would be. (Adams' predictions were off by a few more degrees, by the way.) Now, all three are credited with the discovery, and at the time, Adams treated Le Verrier as the true discoverer of Neptune. However, other British scientists weren't about to let the potential victory go to a rival Frenchman and made some noise about who really discovered Neptune. So the controversy wasn't so much about who had the better timing as it was about British egos. It's the Only Planet in the Solar System (so Far) Whose Discovery Was Predicted Mathematically So far, every other planet in the solar system has been spotted first and then become the subject of mathematical calculations about orbital position. Neptune was the reverse; first, the math said something should be in a particular spot, and then a human found the planet almost where it was predicted to be. An Italian Was Really the First Person to Spot Neptune As usual, there's a caveat to all this "first person to spot" business. An Italian was actually the first person to see Neptune, even before its existence was calculated—but he thought it was a star and thought nothing more of it. That Italian was Galileo Galilei, back in December 1612.

Wasn't even in my head David. Interesting that you would think that. It's not about winning. My website received some 25,000 visitors this last month. This makes me feel terribly responsible to present what is true. I would be overwhelmed had I not experienced the leading of Christ many times, in my search for what is true. I am constantly, daily, reviewing the studies looking for better ways to present the arguments. The work is pretty much consuming. It is "my calling". If I ask for help and input from folks at the forum, I am very serious. On the home page of the website I say clearly that my presentations are my opinion, based upon my study. I never say that folks will be saved or lost because they agree with me. I present my understanding (at the present time) of where the weight of the evidence falls. My understanding can change if I see something I had not previously understood.

I remind people reading this thread that it is posted in a section where people are allowed to post almost at will, material that would be subject to moderation if posted elsewhere. The suggestions that HCH makes are usually well beyond what the SDA denomination teaches and are also outside of accepted Christian scholarship as to what the Bible teaches. Contrary to what he sometimes says, others have sometimes suggested the same ideas that he presents. He is not the only one for some of what he posts. In addition, he has a history of making statements that are demonstrated to be wrong as they fail according to his proposed time frame. In every case he has within a few months come back with alleged new light from God as to how and why he went wrong. We will continue to allow him to post in this section, but read his writings with caution.

I got it. But a Lady Godiva costume could have included not only what was *not* in the box, but also a very long-haired wig.

This gets really tiring. They continue to act like this was an action of the general conference. Forgotten is that it was a decision of the world body of delegates. How much more "flows up from the grassroots" can you get?" This was representative government on a global scale. If you can't get what you want the first time, just keep bugging the Holy Spirit and see if you can get a different answer!

...not that it's a laughing matter, but yeah, I have also wondered about that.