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I would agree with that - the angels appeared as male & when the Sodomites demanded that they hand the men over to be buggered Lot offered to toss his young (and virgin) daughters to the Sodomite mob for their sexual pleasure - BUT they [men of Sodom] rejected Lot's offer as they didn't want "specialized knowledge" of the private parts areas covered by the cloths of these two "females" - they wanted specialized knowledge of the MEN visiting Lot, what was under their cloths. The meaning couldn't be any clearer. This is a very tough Scripture for me - I see something much larger than just a negative description of lawless homosexual acts.

The following article presents a view of Ellen White that some may have missed: https://spectrummagazine.org/views/2019/catching-ellen-five-important-ideas-are-often-missed

Pacific Press has just published a new book written by Mark Finley as to how he sees the future of the SDA Church. The following is an interview with Mark Finley about that book. https://spectrummagazine.org/interviews/2019/church-triumphant-author-interview-mark-finley

Since they are actual things happening, it is not imagination. But again, nice you could run away from the topic of boys being molested.

While I made a mistake regarding ages of consent, the fact remains of what it was. And achieving "equality" is not always a good thing. I have noticed that points I have made have been carefully evaded to maintain the argument that homosexuality is acceptable for Christians. Again, lowering the age of consent to allow the exploitation of young boys by adults is evil. Creating situations where "chickenhawks" can more easily do their deeds is even more wicked. I made the point earlier that there is an effort to get young boys into homosexuality at an early age. Many gay men report their lifestyle started with a molestation event. Young people, while physically able to do the deed, are not able to consider the consequences of their behavior which often ends in death to themselves or to unintended pregnancies (also death). Wickedness has been defined as doing what you know to be wrong. So, I will not apologize for calling somethings "wicked." 16 year olds are not adults. In the US of A, it would be illegal.

5 Things You Didn't Know about The American Revolution On April 19, 1775, the American Revolution began with the Battles of Lexington and Concord in the Province of Massachusetts Bay. Here are 5 things you probably never heard about the American Revolutionary War... The Colonists Were Not Seeking Independence Originally When the American Revolution began in 1775, colonialists were more interested in greater self-government than they were with separating from the British Empire. In fact, in the petition to King George III, the Continental Congress appealed to him for protection and assured him that independence was not an objective of the colonists. The colonists’ attitude changed when the king and ministers of Britain rebuffed them, so many thought their only option was to strive for independence. A Minority of Colonists Supported the War About one-third of the colonists supported and fought with the British during the American War of Independence, and no more than 45 percent supported it. While the Civil War meant that states fought against those from other states, during the War of Independence, people living next door to each other supported opposing sides, creating turmoil. The British Almost Won the War During the summer months of 1776, British troops defeated Washington’s troops at Long Island and occupied New York City, chasing the Americans across the New Jersey colony toward the Delaware River. Many of the British officers believed the rebellion would collapse by the time the middle of December rolled around, but it never happened. Washington’s troops surprised the British with a counter attack around Christmas time, raising the colonists’ spirits, so they were encouraged to go on fighting. After the Battle of Brandywine, Washington Gave General Howe His Dog Back Evidence in the form of a letter written on October 6, 1777, showed that at least some combatants in the American War of Independence remained gentlemen. Even though Washington lost 150 men, with 500 wounded and hundreds being held by the British as prisoners following the Battle of Brandywine, the American general remembered his manners. Following the battle, a fox terrier that belonged to General William Howe, leader of the British troops, was found, and Washington had the dog returned to Howe with a polite note. The French Navy Heavily Contributed to America’s Independence The Royal Navy helped the British army until 1778 by transporting troops up and down the coast and keeping supply lines open. When the French joined the war on the American colonists’ side, that all changed because British outposts that were isolated became vulnerable to American attack. In the fall of 1781, French and American troops hemmed in the British army led by General Cornwallis, and the surrender of those troops ended the American Revolution.

They lowered the age of consent to 16 for boys as it was 16 for girls. There is a wide variety of age of consents in European countries, including 14 for lesbian relationships for girls in some countries. Some even have an age limit for one kind of activity and another for a different kind of activity. All that aside, it was the endeavors of gay groups to lower the age, thus giving them access without penalties to younger boys. If that is acceptable to a Christian group, then it is even more wicked than previously thought.

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5 Things You Didn't Know About Paul Revere's Ride On April 18, 1775, Paul Revere made his famous ride at midnight to warn colonists that the British were coming. Here are 5 things you probably didn't know about the midnight ride of Paul Revere... Revere Didn’t Make His Ride Alone Although Paul Revere did ride to warn colonists the British were coming, he wasn’t the only one warning colonists. Nor did he ride alone. Revere was accompanied by Samuel Prescott and William Dawes, and they split up later, going in different directions. The Longfellow Poem Had Many Errors Many people remember Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s poem about the ride of Paul Revere, but the poem states that the signal at Old North Church was for Revere, when he was the one who told another person to spread the warning from the church tower. The poem says dead bodies lay in the yard at Old North Church, although the battle at Lexington didn’t start until the following day. In addition, the poem says that Revere rode into Concord, but he never made it that far because British troops detained him and let him go later. Revere Originated a Famous Phrase From the Revolutionary War “One if by land, two if by sea” referred to Paul Revere’s historic ride and was in Longfellow’s poem. A signal by hanging one or two lanterns from the Old North Church in Boston would alert local citizens and patriots if the British troops began to advance toward Concord. One lantern meant that the troops were moving by land, which would give the patriots more time to prepare, while two if by sea meant their movement toward Concord would be much faster. Revere Was Warned About the British by Dr. Joseph Warren The evening of Revere’s famous ride, Dr. Joseph Warren sent for him. Warren was both a friend of Revere and the last man left in Boston considered a major leader of the patriots. Warren told Revere that British regulars were planning on marching that night, most likely to Concord, to destroy or capture military stores there. Revere Borrowed a Horse to Make His Ride It is unknown whether Revere owned a horse, but even if he did, he had to travel across the Charles River to Charleston on a small boat and would not have been able to take his own horse with him. He borrowed a horse from another patriot named John Larkin to make his ride. Over the years, people have speculated about the horse’s name, however, a genealogy of the Larkin family states that the animal was named “Brown Beauty.”

Another interesting and relevant book is George Knight's "Organizing to Beat the Devil" which traces the history of the SdA movement organizing into a church and establishing structures and discipline. He outlines the tension between the those who abhorred structure, having suffered under the structure of their former churches, and those who favoured organization for a more efficient carrying out of the work. This book was published I believe in the early 2000s, at a time when George Knight enjoyed the favour of the organized SdA church and appeared to support the current structures.

IMHO: As I have observed the SDA structure recently (last 30 years-ish) there seems to be a shifting of focus away from the soon coming of Christ and toward an establishment of (political) structures and policies to facilitate a long-term existence. IOW, "Hey, Christ ain't comin' any time soon, but this church thing we got goin' is workin' pretty well." (cf George Knight's book The Fat Lady and the Kingdom.) It's the same thing the Early Church did in the first few centuries of their existence. Initially driven by a belief in the soon return of Jesus, they eventually realized that they were in this for the long haul, and began focusing power to the top.

The General Conference is when our members or our representatives get together and share evidence and form consensus. Our pioneers were from many different churches. But they had ideas that surpassed creeds and their churches saw the creeds as strict boxes that the members had to comply to. Because they were not willing to be confined to the creeds they were asked to leave. They decided to form a church to try to prevent what they had experienced in their beloved churches. They formed a church with only a few landmarks and the freedom for them to individually follow the Bible according to the dictates of their own conscience. You had people from the Christian Conextion who questioned the trinity (and if I recall correctly, also believed in women's ordination) and you had people from say Baptists and Methodists who were strongly trinitarian and may have opposed women's ordination. They formed lists of what they believed, but there was a big difference between their list of beliefs and the creeds from the churches. The creeds were like a circle that everyone had to be inside. The list of what Seventh-day Adventists believed was the intersection of circles, they were specifically written vaguely to be inclusive. They were also defining for say someone who has an Adventist friend and liked much of what this friend believed, but not everything that this friend believed, so he wonders if he joins the Seventh-day Adventist church would he have to believe exactly as his friend does. So the beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists show the intersecting ideas and if you felt comfortable with these then you were welcome to be a member. They formed a church that believed that everyone who believes that they have a message from the Lord can have their say and the members can evaluate for themselves. Some people believed that there were parts of their circle that was so important that they believed that it needed to be part of the intersection. In the 1890s the trinity became a part of the intersection. But other ideas were did not become a part of the intersection, and the person who wanted to push their view needed to yield to the General Conference. There were some years, such as 1888, 1922, and 2015 where there were attempts at a sub group of Adventism trying to make everyone else be compelled to making that sub-group be the ONLY true form of Adventism. Mrs. White suffered in putting a stop to this in 1888, but we did not have her to rebel to this non-Adventist spirit in 1922 and 2015. The idea of people bulldozing through an agenda is telling the Holy Spirit to "SHUT UP" and it NOT a General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Thus cries for reform,, for a return to the type of Church that our Pioneers wanted, and a rejection of Babylon trying to take over is NOT rebellion.