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hello sorry for the all caps not to be rude or shouting just easier for me to read i realize heaven is an ambigeous place the new jaruselem or the earth made new are more correct also my spelling is atrotious however it saves time i agree most first time relationships is lust and not agape love also if jesus said there will be no marriage on the earth made new then he will have something better for us. i have this problem and my wife fumes at me sometimes for being critical of many things in the bible it is not that i lose faith just jesus has given us humans these keen questioning minds that i want to know everything before it is time the only things we really ned to know are in 1st corintians chapter 13 yes the love chapter and GOD is love so after the ressurection it is in his hands and i should be satisfied by that knowledge.. choose this day who you will serve and please heavenly father stop me from being a critical cricket thank you in JESUS precious name amen

When you are done discussing this, I suggest that you read "Christ's Glorious Achievements." Comprised of several sermons by Charles Spurgeon, each lesson is devoted to things accomplished by the death of Christ on the Cross: Christ, the End of the Law Christ, the Conqueror of Satan Christ, the Overcomer of the World Christ, the Maker of All Things New Christ, the Spoiler of Principalities and Powers Christ, the Destroyer of Death Christ, the Seeker and Saviour of the Lost. Available from Banner of Truth Trust.

The Lord could have come err this. May I recommend the chapter in the SDA Bible Commentary "The Role of Israel in Old Testament History." This is a very important article we were encouraged to read in Academy, but at college it was required reading with a paper for every semester you took a Bible class (which meant that religion and theology students had to do it every semester).We have been so influenced by Fundamentalists that has such a narrow view of inspiration that we miss a lot of the message of the Bible. There are three ways we find the Bible used by other Bible writers and prophets. The first is exegesis, or it's immediate context including how God was giving that generation either the chance to finish the work (by spreading the Gospel) or to prepare things so that a generation or two later could have finished and the Lord could have set up the kingdom. For example we have in Isaiah 7 God trying to encourage the king to trust in him. He was worried about two kings. Isaiah gave a promise of a child. Matthew said that this was a prediction of Jesus. But it sounds a little crazy for Isaiah to say to the king "I know you are worried about these two kings, but in about 500 years a child will be born and before he knows right from wrong those two kings will no longer be an issue, so all you need to do is trust God and wait 500 years." Isaiah was talking about a child born in his day (but even so he was applying the child of promise that was given to Abraham, and which we can reapply to Jesus). There is a second principle of analogy, applying the principles to another similar situation. This is what Matthew is doing. This is what we do when we apply Daniel 8:14 to 1844, or when Ezekiel applies it to the end of time (and describing the end of time to how it could have ended had Jesus been accepted). Or even those involved in producing the book of Daniel to move it from the end of Babylonian about 2300 days later to applying it to the 70 weeks of years. A third way we find the Bible writers and Mrs. White using scripture is a homiletical or linguistic application. Where it is not the immediate context of exegesis or a reapplication to a similar situation, but where the words still fit. (an example is Mrs. White saying that we are preaching the law the law the law until we are as dry as the hills of Gilboah. ) Deuteronomy 4 predicted that the exile could have been the last days. The original setting of the 2300 days was about 2300 literal days from the end of Babylon. Daniel 9 re-applies it to the 70 week of years prophecy. Ezekiel has a 2310 day prophecy that shows how it could have been fulfilled when Jesus came. Yes, there could still be another application, but the evening-morning points to the cycles that we find in Leviticus, and 1844 was the fulfillment of the day-year application.

Hi Kevin, Thank you for taking the time to explain your position to me. However, your explanation seems to place the fulfillment of the 2,300 days in Daniel's time. However, the angel explaining the vision to Daniel said twice that the vision concerns the time of the end. "He said: “I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath, because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end."(Dan. 8:19) “The vision of the evenings and mornings that has been given you is true, but seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future.”(Dan. 8:26) If the vision of the "evenings and mornings" was to be sealed up until the distant future, could it be that these 2,300 (or 1,150) days have not yet occurred; nor has this part of the vision been unsealed yet?

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