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  1. Lone Ranger

    Who's fooling who?

    I think you're right. I think everyone is inconsistent in some areas, Biblical writers, Ellen White, and myself included. As Krister Stendahl said: "Consistency is a dubious criteria to apply to someone as complex as Paul."
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  2. Bravus

    jesus said there will not be marriage in the new earth

    A couple of things on that text. One is that Jesus was not making a doctrinal proclamation. The disciples had asked him an incredibly detailed, fiddly, unlikely hypothetical question, about 7 brothers successively marrying the same woman, then dying (had they checked her cooking?!), and whose wife she would be in heaven. It was the kind of question the rabbis loved to argue about and think through, and that stuff can be fun, but Jesus was on a mission and didn't want to get bogged down, so he shut it down quickly. I mean, the scandalous answer is that she'd be a wife to all of them. Conceivable that that's true but He realised it would be a huge sidetrack for everyone, both there and in the future. I wonder, too, whether by 'no marrying and giving in marriage' He meant no *new* marriages in Heaven, but that those already married would be married in heaven. I could be wrong of course. But my 31 year marriage is about far more than sex, and I would struggle to imagine that a heaven without my connection to my beloved would be heaven at all. That might be just a failure of my imagination. I guess we all just need to wait and see... and not to be too doctrinaire in the mean time.
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  3. Lone Ranger

    Who's fooling who?

    As an aside and not to de- rail the thread, I DO think EGW contradicts herself. I hold this point of view because, IMO, although her theology can be characterized as "evolving over time" at the same time some of her books contain contradictory statements within the same book.
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  4. phkrause

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    5 Things You Didn't Know About Bruce Springsteen On June 4, 1984, Bruce Springsteen released the record "Born In The U.S.A." which would soon become his biggest-selling album of all time. Here are 5 things you might not know about the singer and songwriter nicknamed “The Boss." He Was Once Stuffed Into a Trash Can as a Child Springsteen was apparently somewhat difficult when he was growing up, at least in school. One story is that a nun at the grade school he was attending stuffed him into the trash can underneath his desk, saying he belonged there. Later, while attending Ocean County College, he must have had problems too. Some students who were attending school there got up a petition to expel him from the college. One of the First Things He Bought Was a Flashy Classic Car When people suddenly find themselves with money as Springsteen did after the success of his studio album, “Born to Run,” it’s only natural to want to purchase something special. Springsteen bought a black 1960 Corvette, which appeared on some of his album covers; it was his first car. Springsteen Has Never Had a Number One Hit Springsteen did have a number one hit, but unfortunately, he wasn’t the one who recorded it. He’s had 12 Billboard top 10 hits, and “Dancing in the Dark” spent more than a month in the No. 2 slot just shy of the No. 1 spot. He can take comfort that “Blinded By the Light” by Manfred Mann’s Earth Band took the No. 1 spot in 1977 — Springsteen wrote that song. He Won Both an Oscar and a Golden Globe Rock stars usually don’t win either of the above awards and actors seldom do, so these are major achievements for Springsteen. In 1994, he won ‘Best Song Oscar’ for “Streets of Philadelphia” from the movie Philadelphia, which starred Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington. He won the Golden Globe for the title song “The Wrestler,” the sports drama starring Mickey Rourke. Springsteen Had Numerous Singles in the Top 10 From the Same Album When Springsteen’s album “Born in the USA” was released in 1984, seven of the singles made it to the Top 10 on Billboard, including “Dancing in the Dark,” which went platinum. It was his seventh studio album and was the biggest seller in 1985, with more than 15 million albums sold in the United States alone.
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  5. phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Surprising Classic Songs That Were Once Banned On June 3, 1956, rock and roll was banned in Santa Cruz, California, after it was thought by some residents to be detrimental to the morals and health of the community’s youth. Find out which surprising songs were deemed too scandalous for public consumption... “Puff the Magic Dragon” It won’t come as much of a surprise that the Peter, Paul and Mary song “Puff the Magic Dragon” was banned because of drug references, even though the poem the song was based on was written to resemble “Custard the Dragon,” by Ogden Nash. Even an article that appeared in 1964 in Newsweek suggested that certain lyrics in the song referred to marijuana. The song was adopted by some American troops during the Vietnam War for the AC-47 gunship, which was armed with Gatling guns and called Dragon. “Louie, Louie” The Kingsmen were a clean-cut rock band out of Portland, Oregon, who tended to wear shirts and ties and sport jackets when they performed. But when they released “Louie, Louie”, they ended up being investigated by the FBI. The buzz around the country among teens was that the song contained explicit sexual content, so some radio stations refused to play it. The FBI investigated the group and song for 31 months and then gave up because the words are so slurred it was difficult to even make them out. “Lola” The song “Lola,” released in 1970 by the Kinks, is about a transvestite and man who meet, but the song was banned by the BBC because it appeared to offer free advertising. One of the lyrics in the song referred to drinking champagne that tasted like Coca-Cola. The group’s songwriter and lead singer changed the lyrics to read “tasted like cherry cola,” so it could be played in Britain. “Light My Fire” This 1967 song from The Doors was on their debut album, which was on Billboard for 121 weeks. Because the song is over six minutes long, radio stations did not want to play it, but did eventually because of all the caller requests. The group became blacklisted by The Ed Sullivan Show after they appeared; although Jim Morrison, the lead singer, agreed to change lyrics that suggested drug use, they ended up playing the original version. “Let’s Spend the Night Together” Morals were the issue with this 1967 song by The Rolling Stones when they appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show. The Stones were not supposed to sing this song on the show but insisted, saying they would change the lyrics. Jagger mumbled the words so much that they were unintelligible, but Ed Sullivan banned them from ever appearing on the program again anyway.
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  6. JoeMo

    Who's fooling who?

    Frankly, I don't consider EGW as highly as you do. I don't misinterpret her; I just don't swallow everything she has to say; especially where prophecy is concerned. She is no more a prophet than Billy Graham or Martin Luther. Even Paul and Peter got stuff wrong concerning the second coming. I don't think EGW contradicts herself, either. I think her theology evolved, just like ours (or at least mine) has in the past 30 years.
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  7. JoeMo

    When Was Jesus Crucified?

    I agree with your statement about the prophecy in Isaiah; but the prophecy in question is in Daniel. Daniel 8 specifically states that the vision of the 2,300 days is in the distant future. Daniel 10 thru 12 is all the same vision; and the Angel tells Daniel at the end of Chapter 12 that the vision is sealed up until the time of the end. (Dan. 12:9) Daniel deals with the impact of the end times on the Jews specifically. Revelation expands on it; and addresses the end times on a global scale. If reading the Bible literally (hopefully "thinking as on OT Middle Easterner), makes me a fundamentalist, so be it. I feel safer taking the Bible literally than trying to spiritualize or allegorize every passage; which can lead to multiple rabbit trails with dead ends. That being said, I don't totally reject what you have stated. You are a very scholarly and well-studied Christian.
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