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SDA Fundamentalism
phkrause and one other reacted to TrevorL for a topic
Greetings JoeMo, I agree that this is off topic so I will be brief. My understanding of this is different. Daniel 11:40–45 (KJV): 40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. 41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. 42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. 44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. I consider that 1917 was the fulfillment of the first part of verse 40, when Britain the King of the South at that time pushed at the Ottoman power and as a result the Ottoman Empire after many years of previous decline was reduced or finished, and only the area of the present day Turkey remained. I equate the invasion of the King of the North as representing the Russian power that will take Istanbul and re-establish the Second Rome, and possibly rename it Constantinople and then after some time proceed to invade the Middle East. I equate this portion with Ezekiel 38 that I believe is the Battle of Armageddon. I equate this drying up of the Ottoman Empire as being equivalent to the drying up of the great river Euphrates in the following: Revelation 16:12–16 (KJV): 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. Kind regards Trevor2 points -
SDA Fundamentalism
JoeMo reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
See: https://spectrummagazine.org/interviews/2019/new-book-uncovers-adventist-relationship-fundamentalism1 point -
SDA Litigation
JoeMo reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
This post should not be understood as suggesting that people file lawsuits against the SDA denomination. Rather, it is pointing out that a certain issue that has involved the SDA denomination has reached the point that a law firm has come forward to solicit people to use their services to file a lawsuit against the SDA denomination. It is sad that this has happened. Speaking personally, and from knowledge and experience that I have, I will say: The SDA denomination, while not perfect, has come a long way in addressing this issue in a positive manner. https://abuseguardian.com/child-sexual-abuse/religious-organizations/seventh-day-adventist-church/cases/1 point -
SDA Litigation
phkrause reacted to JoeMo for a topic
It's about time someone started doing something about this. Our oldest son was molested by a "respected" SDA teacher. Our son didn't tell us about it for several months. When he finally did tell us, we quietly approached the Conference about it. In response, the church shunned my son, spread horrid rumors about him, and transferred the teacher to a school on the other side of the country. In response to the injustice, my son rejected the church and God. He's dead now. I personally know of two former SDA female employees who were fired after they reported unwanted sexual advances by pastors. I get offended when I see others here post about abuses by Catholic priests when the same thing does on right under our noses in our own denomination. I remain an SDA because of their truth, certainly not because of the "saints" within.1 point -
SDA Litigation
phkrause reacted to Lone Ranger for a topic
While I will be the first to acknowledge abuses in the SDA church, as I know several victims personally, including a close family member, the article (which I read in is entirety) struck me as poorly documented and inflammatory. There was a lot of "a teacher" and "a man" and "charged with"...(but no mention of a conviction) and often a curious absence of verifiable names and convictions. So the whole thing stuck me as some blood-sucking lawyers trying to profit from someone else's misfortune. It is unfortunate that their agenda was given a public platform on Adventistan.1 point -
Judgements
phkrause reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
Judgements, why do we make them, often on little to no evidence? For an interesting article on this and the who can earn $1,000 a minute, yet sometimes performs as a busker, see: https://atoday.org/judgments-perceptions-and-discriminations/1 point -
Life in Prison
phkrause reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
See: https://atoday.org/life-sentence-for-sex-offender-killer-of-portland-adventist-community-services-volunteer/1 point -
In Honor Of . . .
phkrause reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
The following is the public mural that has been painted to honor the life and death of the SDA woman and her child who have both died from a horrific crime. Note the Biblical passage: 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. https://spectrummagazine.org/interviews/2019/artist-adds-infant-mural-slain-mother-unites-city-love1 point -
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY
phkrause reacted to dgrimm60 for a topic
HEY ALL MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES only 5 more days until Independence Day dgrimm601 point -
Who's fooling who?
hch reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
Stinsonmarri said in the quote immediately below: Stinsonmarri agrees with a minority group of people who believe that the original New Testament manuscripts were written in Hebrew/Aramaic. This is a minority view that is widely rejected by New Testament scholars.1 point -
Who's fooling who?
JoeMo reacted to stinsonmarri for a topic
HCH: I am sorry but ENOUGH! How dare you relate Cyrus with YAHSHUA! You know we all try our best to give you respect, but you are so far from the truth, that it hurts! Henry, I have known you for many years on another forum, but I never heard you spoke like you are speaking now! Cyrus was selected by YAHSHUA to fulfill a prophecy and Gabriel had to deal with Satan. As powerful as Gabriel is also a holy angel who took Satan covering position, he was no match for the arch-rebel. MICHALE (YAHSHUA), had to come down and stop Satan! Cyrus finally, allowed the Children of Israel to return to Jerusalem. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that Cyrus was a representative of YAHSHUA! What the Bible shows clearly that YAHSHUA allows on HIS Mercy and WILL to put up kings and also to take them down! Cyrus was hidden from his father to become king of the Medes and also the Persians who was his mother's people. His father was trying to kill him, but it was YAHSHUA who hid him for HIS Purpose. The example is giving in Revelation about the beast, that's why it makes no sense why SDA are so misled to thank the beast and the papacy are the same. How can you ride yourself? But here is the truth that is staring them in the face when John states this fact: And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For ELOHIYM hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of ELOHIYM shall be fulfilled. Rev 17:11-13; 16, 17 WOY All is THE WILL of THE FATHER whom THE SON carries out! Many have tried to make Melchizedek to beYAHSHUA due to prejudice. This king was Black and a Jebusite one of the many children of Canaan. Because Paul said this: Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto THE SON of ELOHIYM; abideth a priest continually. Heb 7:3 WOY The Scripture by the KJV makes it look like Paul is saying that Melchizedek is mysterious and throws many people off. First what Paul is actually writing this book to is to the Hebrews people. These common people never spoke Greek, they actually detested them and thought they were unclean. Act Chapter 11 is proof of that fact! They spoke Hebrew or Aramaic which are related dialects. Biblical Scholars today know that the NT was written in Hebrew and after the destruction of the Temple and the eventual rise of the Pharisees, many of their books were destroyed, the pure hatred of the Hebrews were the Catholic and they plunder and destroy many of their writings as well. I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks, and understand the elements of the Greek language, although I have so long accustomed myself to speak our own tongue, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness; for our nation does not encourage those that learn the languages of many nations, and so adorn their discourses with the smoothness of their periods. . . Antiquities of Jews XX, XI (AD 93). Greek NT manuscripts contains several textual variations. According to Greek Scholar Herman C. Hoskier in his book "Codex B and it Allies" (1914) volume 2, there are 3,036 textual variations between Greek NT manuscript "Codex Sinaiticus" and Greek NT manuscript "Codex Vaticanus" in the text of the Gospels alone, enumerated as follows: Matthew: 656, Mark: 567, Luke: 791, John: 1022. What Paul was actually saying that no records of Melchizedek ancestry have been found during his day. But, right in this KJV YAHWEH'S WORD will not come back to HIM Void. "...But made like unto THE SON of ELOHIYM!" Here it lets all know that Melchizedek was made like THE SON of THE MOST HIGH! What like THE SON? "....abideth a priest continually." If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, for under it the people received the law, what further need was there that ANOTHER PRIEST should rise after the order of Melchizedek, and not be called after the order of Aaron? Heb 7:11 This is proof that Melchizedek was after the order of YAHSHUA! That is why the word christ has no meaning, in Hebrew but MESSIAH does! This word stands for more than anointing, it stands for the anointing of THE TRUE PROPHET, (SPIRIT OF PROPHECY), PRIEST and KING, this is YAHSHUA! I pray for you Henry Childs that you stop with this interpretation or fantasy that you have. The Bible is no private interpretation, it can and will speak for itself we need understanding call knowledge and only THE HOLY SPIRIT will give it to those who diligently seek HIM! None of us are better than you and I truly love you and want you and me to pray together, whenever you are ready my brother! Just be careful with THE ALMIGHTY ONES, THEY are not something we should take lightly. HOLY and REVERENCE are ALL THREE and only through THEM can lead us to salvation! Have a blessed Sabbath to All!1 point -
3 word devotional
phkrause reacted to Rahab for a topic
Of little faith ? Mat 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?1 point -
Trivia
dgrimm60 reacted to phkrause for a topic
5 Things You Didn't Know About World War I_2 On June 28, 1919, World War I officially ended with the signing of the Treaty of Versailles by Germany and the Allies. Here are 5 interesting facts you probably didn't know about World War I... The First Tank Used in Combat Was During World War I Tanks are an essential component of militaries today, so much so that it’s hard to fathom war without them. But up until Sept. 15, 1916 (two years into the Great War), horses were still the main form of cavalry used by militaries. The United Kingdom was the first empire to employ tanks, in the Battle of the Somme, and they were largely ineffectual. There were too many breakdowns and the French heavily criticized their allies for giving away the advantage of surprise by launching the tanks before they were battle ready. World War I Introduced the First Aircraft Carrier War was the catalyst that introduced the first aircraft carrier, which was the HMS Furious, a British ship. Learning how to take off and land from a moving ship was difficult, and many early aircraft carriers were conversions built from battle, cargo or other ships. A British commander was the first to successfully land on a ship in 1917, but he died soon after when his plane crashed in his third landing attempt. The War Kicked Off the Beginning of Plastic Surgery. It was not just weaponry that saw tremendous advancements during the war—medicine also saw new innovations that carried on into modern times. Plastic surgery got its start during World War I. A doctor named Harold Gillies pioneered facial reconstruction surgery after seeing soldiers injured and disfigured by shrapnel explosions. Blood transfusions also became a regular practice, with the first blood banks established on the frontlines during 1917. German was the Second Most Widely Spoken Language in the US Before the War. But that changed when U.S. officials banned German language books and required schools remove German from their curriculums. Dogs’ names had to be changed too because of anti-German sentiment. In America, “dachshunds” became “liberty dogs”, and in Britain, “German shepherds” started to be called “Alsatians” (after Alsace-Lorraine on the German-French border). Food didn’t escape the renaming craze – sauerkraut became “liberty cabbage” and frankfurters changed to – yip, you guessed it – “liberty sausages”. The U.S. Government Encouraged Americans to Plant "Victory Gardens" As part of the war effort, the government rationed foods like sugar, butter, milk, cheese, eggs, coffee, meat and canned goods. Labor and transportation shortages made it hard to harvest and move fruits and vegetables to market. So, the government turned to its citizens and encouraged them to plant "Victory Gardens." They wanted individuals to provide their own fruits and vegetables. Nearly 20 million Americans answered the call. They planted gardens in backyards, empty lots and even city rooftops. Neighbors pooled their resources, planted different kinds of foods and formed cooperatives, all in the name of patriotism.1 point -
A New SDA Hymnal Needed?
Aliensanctuary reacted to JoeMo for a topic
The local church I usually attend has 25 people in attendance on a "busy" Sabbath. We haven't had a pastor at all ever for the past 5 years. We're more of a big "small group" than a congregation. We meet in a small ballroom of the Comedy Works ("a funny place to go to church") where there in no piano; so our music is usually acoustic guitars. We all take turns leading the lesson/sermon, doing music, and bringing a healthy breakfast. We sit at linen-covered tables instead of in pews. I also attend a "real" church (about 300 members, complete with pastors, 10-piece praise band, with several screens, tons of kid's SS classes but only a smattering of adult classes, outreach, cliques, committees to nominate the nominating committee, infighting, etc.) on occasion. I overwhelmingly prefer the small intimate setting, where we can do real Bible study without the political and denominational agenda. It feels more like family. I believe that the original churches in apostolic times were more like small groups than megachurches.1 point -
Trivia
dgrimm60 reacted to phkrause for a topic
Level Up With These 5 Facts About Atari_2 On June 27, 1972, an electrical engineer from Utah named Nolan Bushnell and his business partner, Ted Dabney, established their own video game production company. They named it Atari - a reference to Bushnell’s favorite game, Go. Here are five interesting facts about Atari... Atari 2600 Was the Best Selling Christmas Gift of 1979 Atari 2600 was released to the public in 1977. It was priced at $200 and included nine games, but it was difficult for the company to make any headway in the video game market. In 1979, the company started selling video games all year long and came out with hits like "Space Invaders" and "Asteroids." During the Christmas season in 1979, it sold over 1 million units, making the company a dazzling $200 million. Steve Jobs Made $5 an Hour Working There A lot of smart people worked for Atari, and Steve Jobs, the co-founder of Apple, was one of them. He hung around at Atari’s headquarters in 1974, so the company hired him for $5 an hour, but he had to work the night shift. This is because he reportedly did not bathe very much and went barefoot. While working on "Breakout" with his friend Steve Wozniak, the money they brought in from working at Atari kept them going while they built their prototype Apple computer. Atari Fired Bill Gates - Yes, That Bill Gates Because Atari had crossover applications for home computers, they opened a division that worked on computer software for gaming. Bill Gates, the owner of Microsoft, which was then a small company, was hired to program BASIC onto a computer for Atari. Unfortunately, he couldn’t seem to make their deadlines, so they let him go. If Atari Hadn't Been Successful, We Might Not Have Another Important Childhood Icon. Bushnell really liked games, and he was also a businessman who didn't want to deal with competition. In 1977, with Atari well-established and its games popular, Bushnell created a pizza parlor that allowed him to place his games, and only his games: Chuck E. Cheese's Pizza-Time Theaters. Bushnell added animatronic entertainment so that parents wouldn't think they were simply taking their kids to an arcade. By the way, Bushnell's first choice for a name? Rick Rat's Pizza. The marketing department understandably objected. Atari Is Included in the National Toy Hall of Fame In 2007, the Atari 2600 was added to the National Toy Hall of Fame in Rochester, New York; it is one of the 68 toys featured there. Other classics included in the collection range from alphabet blocks to Rubik’s Cube and LEGO.1 point