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EGW was not a fundamentalist. None of football, photographs or clothing styles have anything to do with fundamentalism.

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Rachel has asked us to define "fundamentalism." That word must always be defined within an identified, specific context. E.G. Is it a political context? Is it a religious context? We will often need to be more specific than that. In a religious context, fundamentalism may be defined as a rigid, unchangeable attachment to a set of beliefs. If we were to use this statement in our definition of fundamentalism as applied to Ellen White, we would have to say that she was not a fundamentalist. Over the years of her ministry in the SDA denomination her beliefs changed and expanded in multiple areas. Examples of this would include: the Sabbath, the Trinity, payment of tithe, eating unclean foods and more. Another definition of fundamentalism, in a religious sense, would involve a strict literalism as applied to the Bible. SDAs are well known as stating the a basic principle of Biblical interpretation is to understand the text in a literal sense, unless it is clearly symbolic, or of some other sense that would not be literal. The Biblical books of Daniel and Revelation would include examples of passages that were symbolic. As applied to Adventism, this understanding is more complicated. In some parts of the Christian world, this view involves the idea that the original text was dictated, by God, word by word. SDAs and EGW reject this view. Ellen White's view on this is probably best contained in Selected Messages. As understood, by some SDA members, fundamentalism is the idea that in the early days of the development of this denomination, a core set of beliefs was developed that should remain unchanged to this day and on into the end of time. One of the problems that people with this view have is that there is not total agreement as to what beliefs constitute that core set. Some focus on a set of five basic beliefs. But, in addition to not total agreement as to what those five are, there is disagreement as to the boundaries as to how they should be understood. In any case, I will suggest that EGW rejected this view. She taught that spiritual truth was progressive. Throughout time the opportunities for increased understanding would increase. Gustave has mentioned a few ways in which he considers EGW to be a fundamentalist. I have some agreement with what he posted, and would probably revise other parts of what he wrote. But, that is not the major issue here. I believe that if EGW were alive and writing today, she would revise some of what she once wrote. IOW, I believe that she would tell us that the social (and other) context has changed and that in this time and place, she would revise her advice. On that basis, I would not consider her to be a fundamentalist, as sometimes defined. On another point, I prefer Kenan H's view on this to that of Gustave. NOTE: On another point, I really appreciate the discussion of this issue that is taking place here. Continue on, all of you to include Rachel, Gustave, and others.

HEY ALL MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES Today JULY 4 is Independence Day===I hope all of you enjoy and have a wonderful day dgrimm60

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Please the Lord ? Psalm 69:30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving. 31 This also shall please the LORD better than an ox or bullock that hath horns and hoofs.

5 Things You Didn't Know About Back to the Future_2 On July 3, 1985, "Back to the Future" was released to theaters and became the highest grossing film of the year. Here are 5 surprising facts you probably didn't know about everybody's favorite time travel movie... The Studio Wanted to Call the Film, Spaceman from Pluto. Co-creator Bob Gale had to shop the Back to the Future script for quite a while before getting a bite from Universal Pictures (Gale claims he was rejected more than 40 times). And the studio was understandably concerned about certain aspects of the movie—namely that one scene with Marty and his mom in the back of the car and the film's title. Executives had seen a trail of recent time-travel movie flops and were concerned Zemeckis's film would suffer the same fate, so they suggested an alternate name: Spaceman from Pluto. Executive producer Steven Spielberg quite literally laughed in their face about it. Michael J. Fox Almost Wasn't Marty McFly It's hard to imagine anyone but Fox playing the film's protagonist, but Robert Zemeckis almost had no choice. Though his original choice was Fox for the role, the actor's obligations to his popular television show, Family Ties, got in the way of scheduling. Zemeckis then hired Eric Stoltz for the role, but quickly realized he'd made a huge mistake. Stoltz was an accomplished young actor, but he didn't quite have the comedic chops needed to capture McFly. You can still see Stoltz’s arm in a fight scene with “Biff” Tannen. The studio eventually negotiated a contract for Fox with Family Ties, and the rest is history. The DeLorean in the Film Could Have Been a Refrigerator The original draft of the movie was much different from the finished product. Originally, the time travel machine was described as a refrigerator and Doc Brown was a professor that bootlegged movies. After discussing it, Zemeckis and Speilberg agreed that using a refrigerator might encourage children to act out the movie, and this would have been dangerous. They scrapped the refrigerator idea for a DeLorean, which looked space age with its gull doors. However, about 25 years later, Indiana Jones climbed into a refrigerator to escape a nuclear blast in “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.” The Dog, Einstein, Was Originally Supposed to Be a Chimp The original movie script called for Professor (later changed to Doc) Brown to have a pet chimpanzee called Shemp, not a dog named Einstein. The head of Universal, Sid Sheinberg, nixed the idea, saying that movies with chimps in them didn’t make any money. Although Clint Eastwood had made a hit movie that co-starred an orangutan, Sheinberg seemed to think that wasn’t the same thing as using a chimp, so they went with a dog. Chuck Berry Played Hard To Get The script called for Marty McFly to pick up a guitar at the school dance and invent rock'n'roll by playing Johnny B Goode. But it was written without Berry's permission, and the rocker kept Zemeckis and Gale waiting until the day of filming to give them the go-ahead. The $50,000 check they agreed to write possibly helped.

Yes, I found it interesting from several stand points. One point of interest: The $500,000 cost of one treatment that the SDA physician scientist seemingly is able to lower in cost.

5 Things You Didn't Know About Walmart On July 2, 1962, the first Walmart store (called Wal-Mart Discount City) was opened in Rogers, Arkansas, by Sam Walton and his brother, James. Here are 5 things you never knew about one ofthe world’s largest private employer... Walmart Was a Success From the Start Sam Walton, one of the brothers who founded Walmart, started out by buying a Ben Franklin store in Newport, Arkansas in 1945 and made a success of it. He did so well, in fact, that he added 15 more stores by 1962, and he and his brother opened the first Walmart that same year. One of the reasons it was so successful was that the stores were opened in smaller towns and sold American manufactured merchandise that undercut the competition. There Are Walmart Stores in Other Countries With Different Names There are a number of Walmart stores in different countries, but you might not know you’re in one by its name. In the United Kingdom, the company operates 385 stores that go under the name Asda. In Costa Rica, their 133 stores are named Pali; and in China, their 311 stores are called either Trust-Mart or Supercenter. Walmart Has Been Known to Carry Some Really Weird Stuff While Walmart has always been known to carry at least a little of everything you can imagine, some of the items they sell might be considered just plain weird, such as pickle flavored ice pops or a Christmas ornament shaped like a pickle that yodels. For the hunters in the family, there are garden gnomes dressed in camo, talking keychains and camo jackets for your dog decorated with "Duck Dynasty." Your life at home would not be complete without sunglasses with a built-in bottle opener, leopard printed duct tape or an alligator paper towel holder. Sam Walton’s Daughter is the World’s Richest Woman Sam Walton has three living children, two sons and a daughter named Alice. They are the 11th, 12th and 13th richest Americans in the country. Alice Walton is the worlds’ richest woman and was worth $38.2 billion in 2017, as reported by Forbes. The Best Selling Item in Walmart May Surprise You A spokesperson for Walmart reported that bananas had been the top seller at Walmart stores for many years. Shoppers purchase about 1 billion pounds of the tasty fruit each year from Walmart stores around the world. That comes out to customers purchasing 32 pounds each second -- that’s a lot of bananas.

Very interesting Gregory. Thanks

As I am not certain as to what you said: The book that I gave you was written by a male (yes) who happens to believe that Bible was inspired by God. It has been used by several denominations, who also believe that the Bible was inspired by God, in teaching students.

Thanks for posting this, Kevin. I also enjoy reading history/biographies like this. I wonder what roll God plays in the lives of men who exhibit extraordinary bravery in battle. Sometimes, I'm surprised at what turns up. I recall an account of a young private who was trapped behind enemy lines during the Arnhem fiasco. He lived for several weeks in the attics of homes as enemy soldiers chatted, smoked, etc. in the streets below. Every night, as he fell asleep, he would curse God, the generals, colonels, majors captains, lieutenants, sergeants and anyone else he felt had a hand in his present circumstances. Amazingly, he survived the war and lived a somewhat "ordinary" life. Truly, the sun rises on the just and unjust. Among the greatest commentaries on Romans stands the work of C.E.B. Cranfield who served as a battlefield chaplain during WW2.

And even among those who reject fundamentalism are more recovering fundamentalists with residual fundamentalism in our lives.

I second that!! Welcome back

Good point Rahab. Jesus "breathed" the Holy Spirit upon them. To me this shows the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of Christ. If the HS was a separate entity, it would have come on its own - not out of Jesus' lungs.