Never said women could not get up and give very thoughtful intelligent speeches on complicated topics. Having gone thru nursing school and a variety of other academic areas, I had many gifted women as professors. I count a number of woman as a "grandparent" (i.e., woman who were professors that had famous professors for themselves to learn from) of knowledge. Even have listened to a gifted woman speaker talk most eloquently against women's ordination. However, leading a church is different than just getting up and giving a good speech.