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?Grace given to us? Ephesians 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Gustave: My handel is stinsonmarri and just like you misquote that you did seem to misquote also misunderstand what I wrote. I stated very clear that they Luther and Calvin whom you specially specified brought truth to the table until they went off the path. I never said they were "soft in the head," you did. Luther find that your church was making people do penitence by doing things that was unnecessary and not Biblical. On 31 October 1517, he published his '95 Theses', attacking papal abuses and the sale of indulgences. Luther had come to believe that Christians are saved through faith and not through their own efforts. This turned him against many of the major teachings of the Catholic Church. History - Historic Figures: Martin Luther (1483-1546) - BBC Calvin agreed with Martin Luther on justification by faith and the sole authority of Scripture. On the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper, he took a position between the radical Swiss and the Lutheran view. Calvin rejected the images of saints and the crucifix (that is, the image of the body of Christ upon the cross) but allowed a plain cross. These modifications do not, however, refute the generalization that Calvinism was largely opposed to art and music in the service of religion but not in the secular sphere. In contrast to Luther, Calvin began his Institutes not with justification by faith but with the knowledge of God. Luther found refuge from the terror of God’s dispensations in the mercy of Christ. Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc. Here it shows that both brough truth but John Calvin went further than Martin Luther. As I stated they allowed THE HOLY SPIRIT to reveal some truth. However, they kept some of the belief of the Catholic Church, especially keeping Sunday and thinking that YAHWEH, THE FATHER was a mean, angry vengeful SPIRITUAL BEING. This is just like Zeus and Mithras coming from the worship of Constantine. Your words are unfounded because even history speaks the truth, that is what I told you. I am sorry to say that your words are unfounded as well. You refuse to accept all of the Bible and the Commands of YAHWEH. The people today who refuse to get vaccine ate acting the same way. They do not want anyone to tell them what to do. They see people dying that are not vaccine but they say they refuse to be mandated. All were mandated to take vaccines in the past that saved our lives. It was told that this warp speed done today because a lot of things in the past were slowing down the vaccine to be approved over five years. Warp speed was something good the previous president did and certain restriction that was not needed was release. Behind the scene it was THE HOLY SPIRIT! YAHWEH will use evil people to do HIS Bidding. He used Baalim, who left THE HOLY SPIRIT. His greed for money and power had him to accept the Moabite king order. He tried to speak ill of the IsraELites. It did not work, when he tried to speak a curse, instead his words spoke blessings. THE HOLY SPIRIT, ONE of THE THREE ALMIGHTY ELOHIYM does the same today. THE THREE ALMIGHTY ONES works together as one which is a unit! It is sad that you can not see the truth that's in the Bible because of your belief. Your belief disputes the Commandments and want to put them with the Sacrificial System. The Bible in Exodus and Deuteronomy shows the differences of the two. The Ark of the Covenant was specially made to show the likeness in Heaven. Two cherubims are standing on each side of the Commandments in Heaven. Moses was told that he would follow the pattern that was in Heaven. That is what the Ark of the Covenant revealed accept there had to be a mercy seat here on earth! However, underneath was the Testimony written by THE FINGER of THE SON on the stone Moses hewed out. He broke the original one when he saw the people worshiping the golden calf which look like Satan. Eze 10:14; 28:14 Moses was Commanded to hew out a stone and bring it to the Mount and again YAHSHUA wrote on it with HIS FINGER The Commandments. And YAHWEH said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables THE WORDS that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. Ex 34:1 These Commands were place under the Mercy Seat and they were called Testimony or Covenant: And thou shalt put into the ark the Testimony which I shall give thee. And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the Ark of the Testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.Ex 25:16 Now, the sacrificial Laws were given to the Levites who are the priest. Moses wrote them and then gave the book to them. And YAHWEH spake unto Moses, saying, Command Aaron and his sons, saying, This is the Law of the burnt offering: It is the burnt offering, because of the burning upon the altar all night unto the morning, and the fire of the altar shall be burning in it. Lev 6:8, 9 (Lev 6:14, 25; 7:1, 7, 11, 37; 11:46; 12:11; 13:59; 14:2,32, 54, 57; 15:32; 15:15; Num 5:29 These are the sacrifices Laws, and Moral Laws made simplified.) And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the Ark of the Covenant of YAHWEH, and unto all the elders of IsraEL. That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the Ark of the Covenant of YAHWEH, saying,Take this book of the Law, and put it in the side of the Ark of the Covenant of YAHWEH your ELOHIYM, that it may be there for a witness against thee. Deut 31:9, 25, 26 Now, the sacrificial law was to come to end after the death of YAHSHUA. Not the Commandments and it was made clear what was taken out of the way. If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, for under it the people received the Law, what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the Law. For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. For it is evident that our MASTER sprang out of Judah; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. For the Law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto ELOHIYM. For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the Law, maketh THE SON, who is Consecrated for evermore. Heb 7:11-14, 19, 28 For the Law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Heb 10:1-4 The Bible clearly speaks the truth and it was clear in the NT as well as in the Old. It is your belief system they think they can change the Commandments and state it is the Sacrifice System, which in the Bible it clearly is not! What your belief system has done is called it ceremonial and ritual and everyone including the SDA have followed. Ceremony is a wedding and ritual all of us do in our everyday life. Ritual is taken YAHSHUA'S Supper or the one eats a common meal in their home. These two words are not in the Bible, but sacrifices is! They were call YAHWEH'S Laws given to Moses to write in a book. Then he gave it to the priest who put it on the side of the Ark of the Testimony/Covenant. Plain and simple. Blessings!

Copied from the Internet: NOTE: This is NOT my story. Two days before my mother died she told him [her husband] to continue watering some plants she had in pots in the home. After her death he complied with her instructions. The plants did so well that when he sold the home and moved to another one, he decided to take the plants with him. They were all plastic.

Gustave, in your opening post you quoted this from the Council of Trent: How did they determine that Paul was "reproving the observers of Mosaic rites"? I think they made an erroneous assumption about the passage and leaped to a conclusion that, if it were true, would have made the apostle Paul a loathsome liar and false teacher. When the Apostle Paul was on trial before Felix, Paul stated, "But this I admit to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets;" (Acts 24:14) As you know, the "Law and the Prophets" is what the Jews called the major portions of the Old Testament. So if the Council of Trent had been correct that Paul was "reproving the observers of the Mosaic rites", then Paul's statement to Felix would have been a blatant lie. A person who believes "everything that is accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets," as Paul claimed about himself, could not possibly reprove the Galatians for observing the Mosaic rites, because a "reproving" like that would definitely not be "in accordance with the Law" and would be contrary to many things in the Prophets. So, we'll have to choose whether Paul testified truthfully about himself to Felix or whether Paul was reproving the observers of Mosaic rites -- both cannot be true. If Paul was lying about his own beliefs before Felix, how would we know Paul wasn't lying about everything he said and wrote? We wouldn't be able to have confidence in anything Paul said, if Paul's testimony to Felix was not true. If Paul lied to Felix, then Paul also lied to Timothy, and to the Philippians. I am confident that Paul's testimony about himself before Felix was absolutely true, therefore the Council of Trent assumed something impossible about Paul's meaning in Galatians 4:10 regarding some other "days, months, seasons and years". The context and the original Greek wording of the passage shows that the Council of Trent was wrong. More on that another day. We know that while Jesus was on earth He must have observed God's appointed times described in the Books of Moses, otherwise Jesus would have been a common sinner and not the Messiah who could atone for our sins. Jesus also taught "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (John 8:12) So then, how could Paul "reprove" the Galatians for following Jesus regarding the observance of God's appointed times? I think the Council of Trent made a giant mistake when they assumed that the religion that Jesus lived while on earth was so faulty that those who followed the example of Jesus required "reproving" by the apostle Paul for doing as Jesus himself had done in accordance with the Law. According to what Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount, if the apostle Paul had actually taught the Galatians to stop following the Law of Moses, then Paul would "be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven" (Matt 5:19) How much authority would Paul have as "least in the kingdom" over those who were "great in the kingdom" because they were doing and teaching the instructions of the Law? Paul would have had no authority to reprove the Galatians regarding anything at all. It therefore follows, that if Paul had authority to reprove the Galatians, Paul could not have been teaching anyone to relax or set aside even the least of God's instructions in the Law and the Prophets. Jesus himself says that plainly in Matthew 5:17-19.

? World without end ? Ephesians 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

?? Able to DO more than we think ? Ephesians 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

I agree 100%. I bought my copy in the late 80's or early 90's - back then it was on the bookshelf.

?Filled with the fullness of God ? Ephesians 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

? grounded in love ? Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

When Wyoming applied to join the US, Congress said they would have to stop letting women vote. Their response: "We will remain out of the Union one hundred years rather than come in without the women." They joined in 1890 as the first and only state that allowed women to vote. James