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  1. Gregory Matthews

    More on the Trinity

    Gustave said: God is fundamentally a God of truth, wherever that truth may take us. We fundamentally deny God when we engage in dishonesty. As we are human, we do not fully understand truth and are subject to error. But, it is our responsibility to seek the truth and to represent God as truthfully as is humanly possible for us to do so.
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  2. phkrause

    Anything Sports

    Nuggets take home 1st NBA title in rugged 94-89 win over Heat DENVER (AP) — Confetti flying in Denver. The Nuggets sharing hugs while passing around the NBA championship trophy. https://apnews.com/article/nuggets-heat-nba-finals-jokic-99c0f25e6e468a97f8c86330f988933d? Congrats to the Denver Nuggets and there fans ?????
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  3. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N). Isaiah 25:9 And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the Lord ; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.
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  4. Hanseng

    More on the Trinity

    Nope. James White rebaptized EGW soon after she accepted the Sabbath truth. (EGW bio by A.L. White, vol. 1, p. 122). According to Life Sketches, EGW learned of the Sabbath from Joseph and had a vision about it in 1846 (p,76). [NOTE: I will suggests that Page 121 is a more accurate source. But, if you wish, call it pages 121 & 122--Gregory Matthews.] In 1849, EGW saw people wailing in hell on whose garments was written "Weighed in the balance and found wanting." They had given up the Sabbath truth (Life Sketches, p.94). Perhaps 1868 was a typo on your part? The article you quoted from the Review of March 7, 1854 makes no sense to me The Adventists of those days were legalists who didn't understand the gospel. In certain respects, they didn't care about it. Their attention was absorbed by other facets of Scripture. As is often the case with media today, that which is published reflect the opinions of the writer. "Thus, it was taught that Sabbath Keeping would bring to light the flesh God, the Father alone. So, after keeping the Sabbath for a while Ellen starts to churn out "Testimonies" or "Spirits of Prophecy" that condemn the Trinity Doctrine." I remain unpersuaded that EGW's acceptance of the Sabbath required the acceptance of Arianism. Can you provide any example of an EGW statement that condemns the trinity?
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  5. Hanseng

    More on the Trinity

    Gustave, In order to save time, let's be specific as to the issues in question. From my end. 1) I'd like to see some proof/evidence that most of the early adventists were Arian. 2) I'd like to see evidence/proof that EGW was rebaptized because she had accepted Arianism. 3) Evidence that the early SDA were militant Arians when EGW was rebaptized. 4) Plain statements from EGW indicating her Arianism. When I say proof/evidence, I mean a historical record which does not require interpretation. For example on page 460/530 of Desire of Ages, EGW said "Still seeking to give a true direction to her faith, Jesus declared, “I am the resurrection, and the life.” ☀️In Christ is life, original, unborrowed, underived. “He that hath the Son hath life.” ☀️1 John 5:12. The divinity of Christ is the believer’s assurance of eternal life. “He that believeth in Me,” said Jesus, “though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?”" EGW statements contradicting this comment would be considered evidence of Arianism
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  6. Hanseng

    More on the Trinity

    Another good example of the spin you put on history? Arthur White, in his biography of EGW, volume 1 pages 121 and 122 said that EGW was rebaptized due to her acceptance of the 7th day Sabbath/third angel's message, not because she was converted to Arianism. There doesn't seem to be any stated reason why she was rebaptized. Soon after accepting the Sabbath truth, Ellen White requested rebaptism—undoubtedly into the third angel's message. James White writes of this in Life Incidents, page 273, in connection with his presentation of Ellen White's visions: Froom says MOD, p. 73 : Then in the 1860's and 1870's a few began to put into print their personal, minority Arian views on Christ, and denied the Trinity and the personality of the Holy Spirit. This caused increasing misunderstanding and criticism, both outside and inside the Adventist Church. Amazingly, the Spirit of Prophecy was kept from being influenced by the positions of this vocal minority of strong minds. ?And remarkably, Ellen White's published utterances from 1846 to 1888 never needed revision, repudiation of position, or withdrawal on these points. ?These early enunciations of truth were developed with amazing fullness following 1888, with continuity of harmony. Froom says that EGW did not express Arian sentiments in her early writings. That should be easy to disprove, if you have evidence to the contrary, i.e., produce proof that EGW was involved in Arianism as evinced by any of her writings.
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  7. phkrause

    Treat Williams

    ‘Hair,’ ‘Everwood’ actor Treat Williams dies after Vermont motorcycle crash DORSET, Vt. (AP) — Actor Treat Williams, whose nearly 50-year career included starring roles in the TV series “Everwood” and the movie “Hair,” died Monday after a motorcycle crash in Vermont, state police said. He was 71. https://apnews.com/article/treat-williams-motorcycle-crash-vermont-everwood-0702205e46e9b24114d8fb7e62fa8c0a?
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