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  1. Gustave

    The Trinity In Catholic thought

    That's incorrect, God CAN'T commit / violate moral law because to do so would be against God's Nature - to say it another way IF what you think to be God committed a moral sin what you believed to be God, WASN'T God - it was something else. You can take that one to the bank.
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  2. Gustave

    The Trinity In Catholic thought

    I read that as well and it seemed to me like Mr. Rodriguez wanted to say NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT POSSIBLE but something else, possibly not in Sacred Scripture forced him to say YES, Jesus had a possibility of failing / falling into sin. Jesus clearly identified Isaiah 35,4 as being about Him (Matthew 11, 1-6) In Mark 13, 31 Jesus says that heaven and earth will pass away but His words never will. I take that to mean that when Jesus said thing like He does in Matthew 7, 22 / Matthew 19, 28 / Matthew 23, 39 / Mark 14, 49 / Luke 24, 25-27 and over 100 additional Scriptures that speak to the same effect. If Mr. Rodriguez was being serious that he believed the Bible teaches that there existed a hypothetical situation whereas Jesus' words "could have failed" where is he getting this? At the end of the day if as Seventh-day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Christ had the capacity or capability to sin AND this was a real risk how does this comport with the Trinity Doctrine? Adventist groups believe that if Christ sinned and was subsequently annihilated (eternally ceasing to exist) the group concept of "God" would be changed would it not? Instead of having the 3 Persons united in mission and character there would be then only 2 left in the SDA case and only 1 in the JW case?
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  3. Gregory Matthews

    The Trinity In Catholic thought

    A little ways back, Gustave cites a Biblical Research article on the possibility of Christ sinning. I do not mean to suggest that Gustave has improperly cited the article. But, I consider it to be important to read the entire article, not just what Gustave cited. you can find it at: https://adventistbiblicalresearch.org/articles/what-if-jesus-had-sinned The ending of that article is interesting:
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  4. Gregory Matthews

    The Trinity In Catholic thought

    FYI: George R. Knight is a PhD. Historian, who has written more than 18 books, often on SDA history and Ellen White. Amazon is currently selling some of them. you may find them listed, along with other people, at: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=books+by+george+knight&adgrpid=1338106886033223&hvadid=83631877540784&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=43742&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83632518664841%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=10022_13485482&mcid=3c5eba0c06493b16a51b530e3886f066&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_r66qkpao6_e
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  5. Gregory Matthews

    The Trinity In Catholic thought

    Gustave, your questions are valid. I really do not have an answer to them. I may (?) attempt to see if I can find some answer to some of your questions.
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  6. Gustave

    The Trinity In Catholic thought

    Do you know if Knight, George R. had the same understanding of this subject as did/does Mr. Rodriguez who in the following statement claims Christ had the real possibility of sinning and eternally ceasing to exist. What if Jesus had sinned? | Biblical Research Institute Are there any cases where the Biblical Research Institute comes to a different conclusion about religious teaching that differed from Ellen White? I don't know how this works here so it's an honest question. Has the Biblical Research Institute ever identified any theological point in opposition to what Ellen White taught - or, is the B.R.I. in lockstep with Ellen White?
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  7. Gregory Matthews

    The Trinity In Catholic thought

    Gustave said: Knight, George R. Reading Ellen White: How to understand and apply her writings. Review & Herald, 1997 & 2015, 140 PAGES. The above book is of great value and is divided into three sections: * # 1 deals with basics, such as inspiration and the relationship of her writings to the Bible. 30 pages. * # 2 deals with principles of interpretation. 70 pages. * # 3 deals with principles of application. 9 pages. The following are important statements made i n the above book, along with the page on which they are stated. * . . . she never ser forth her writings as an equal authority to the Bible or even as having any authority independent of Scripture. Page 17 * . . . she was careful to state that people did not need her writings to understand the great concepts of salvation. page 18. * Ellen white repeatedly described her writings as being subordinate to the Bible. . . . page 20. * . . . ?she did not claim that we should take her writings as the final word . . . page 26. * . . . Ellen white rejected the infallible commentator approach to the use of her writings. . . Page 26. * In short she rejected the approach of those who would use her as an infallible commentator. Page 27. * Ellen White took the position that her comments were not to be used [as} if she were an infallible commentator to settle the meaning of the Bible. Page 27. This book contains much more of value. I Recommend it to all. I believe that Amazon is selling it for $11. You can also purchase it from Kindle, I think.
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  8. bonnie1962

    Daylight Savings Time

    When told the reason for Daylight Saving Time, the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you can cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and get a longer blanket."
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