Moderators lazarus Posted June 7, 2007 Moderators Posted June 7, 2007 If Paris Hilton was a Redhead would she have been released? LOS ANGELES - After only three days behind bars, Paris Hilton traded a 12-by-8-foot cell for her 2,700-square-foot Hollywood Hills home when she was released early Thursday because of an unspecified medical condition. Hilton will be under home confinement, wearing an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet, for the remaining 40 days of her sentence for violating probation in a reckless driving case. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19091578/ Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Amelia Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Sheesh, I knew she would get out of it some how. If you have enough money and name power, you get what you want eventually. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Woody Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 I am certain that her unspecified medical condition would do better with her in prison rather than having her medicate it in the privacy of her home. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators Bravus Posted June 7, 2007 Moderators Posted June 7, 2007 yeah, I think 'rich' is more important than 'blonde' in this instance: plenty of poor blonds in prison. Quote Truth is important
Pockey Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 wow she's got a good lawyer. very well executed and planned :) Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted June 8, 2007 Author Moderators Posted June 8, 2007 LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - The judge who sentenced Paris Hilton to jail and the prosecutor who pressed for her incarceration objected Thursday to her early release for an unspecified medical condition. "The judicial process may have been improperly circumvented in this case," said City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo. "This explanation is puzzling. Los Angeles County jail medical facilities are well-equipped to deal with medical situations involving inmates." http://www.examiner.com/a-769114~Prosecutor__judge_object_to_Hilton_s_early_release_from_jail.html Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Amelia Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Just had breaking news on our news here. Apparently Ms Hilton has been ordered to appear before the judge on Monday to decide if her early release was justified. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Amelia Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Outrage: Sharpton Bashes Paris Transfer THURSDAY JUNE 07, 2007 By Tim Nudd The Rev. Al Sharpton delivered a rebuke to the California justice system for allowing Paris Hilton to leave jail and serve her sentence at home, saying the move reveals a dangerous double standard. "This early release gives all the appearances of economic and racial favoritism that is constantly cited by poor people and people of color," the civil-rights leader and president of National Action Network said Thursday, according to the Drudge Report. "There are any number of cases of people who handle being incarcerated badly and even have health conditions that are not released." Sharpton said he has "nothing but empathy for Ms. Hilton," pointing out that he appeared with her on Saturday Night Live in 2003. But he said the decision to transfer her from a Los Angeles County prison to her own home, where she will be under house arrest, is unconscionable. "I have served several sentences for civil rights and civil disobedience actions and I even fasted, which caused health concerns to prison authorities who paid for a doctor to come see me daily rather than release me," Sharpton said. "This act smacks of the double standards that many of us raise." Sharpton was not alone in condemning Hilton's transfer, as many pundits took to the cable-news shows Thursday afternoon to voice their outrage over the decision. Even the women of The View weighed in on the move Thursday morning. While Elisabeth Hasselbeck said she found it "disgusting," Barbara Walters said, "I'm happy for Paris and I'm happy for her family" and guest host Lorraine Bracco admitted, "I'm so conflicted." The studio audience, however, was unanimous. When Walters said, "I ask you very quickly, raise hands or shout out: Are you glad that Paris Hilton is reassigned to her home?" the crowd shouted in unison, "No!" Asked Walters, "Do you think it was the right thing to do?" Again: "No!" (See the video below.) One man who did not seem upset in the least, however, was boxing promoter Don King. According to TMZ.com, King called the Web site's offices on Thursday morning to say he was "ecstatic" about the news. "I love Paris Hilton, and I'm just delighted, ecstatic that she's out of jail," King says in the audio message. King said he has not met Hilton, but he knows her family, and he said the heiress is "what America is all about – people that stand out from the crowd." King added that he is looking forward to giving Hilton a hug and "telling her I love her." Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
puddles Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 oh look...yet another thing that Sharpton has stuck his nose into...go figure I bet Paris is just so looking forward to getting that hug too! oh well, just me Quote
Moderators Denise Posted June 8, 2007 Moderators Posted June 8, 2007 Quote Be Kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another... Monticello Georgia
Moderators Bravus Posted June 8, 2007 Moderators Posted June 8, 2007 I think the hug is from Don King, actually... perhaps even scarier than one from the Reverend Al. Quote Truth is important
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted June 8, 2007 Members Posted June 8, 2007 Quote: One man who did not seem upset in the least, however, was boxing promoter Don King. According to TMZ.com, King called the Web site's offices on Thursday morning to say he was "ecstatic" about the news. "I love Paris Hilton, and I'm just delighted, ecstatic that she's out of jail," King says in the audio message. King said he has not met Hilton, but he knows her family, and he said the heiress is "what America is all about – people that stand out from the crowd." King added that he is looking forward to giving Hilton a hug and "telling her I love her." And in a related story, the Muppet Mafia does not seem to be happy over this turn of events. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Neil D Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Will she stay or will she go? Hours after Paris Hilton was sprung from jail and placed under house arrest for an unspecified "medical condition," the Los Angeles City's Attorney's Office wants to send her back. Prosecutors filed court papers Thursday evening with the judge who originally sentenced the heiress to 45 days in jail requesting that the country sheriff's department return her to custody and that the department show cause as to why it shouldn't be held in contempt of court for letting her go, or "reassigning" her, in the first place. (Read the order here.) In response, the Sheriff's Department has been ordered to bring Hilton to court Friday at 9 a.m. for a hearing on the matter. With the approval of Sheriff Lee Baca, Hilton was released from the Century Regional Detention Facility shortly after midnight, fitted with a monitoring ankle bracelet and ordered confined to her 2,700-square-foot Hollywood Hills home for the next 40 days. While she's still technically being punished, the move caused an immediate outcry by everyone from The View's Elisabeth Hasselbeck to L.A. city officials who perceived the sheriff's actions as an affront to the justice system, especially since Superior Court Judge Michael Sauer had specifically ordered that the Simple Life star not be given alternative custody or electronic monitoring. City attorney spokesman Nick Velasquez said earlier Thursday that the office had been "inundated with calls and emails form people," with "100 percent of them" angry about Hilton's release. L.A. City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo said today that he was "extremely troubled" by the sheriff's decision and had asked his prosecutors to "immediately explore all possible legal options to ensure that the law is being applied equally and justly in this case." Meanwhile, sheriff's department spokesman Steve Whitmore told KNBC-TV that the contempt accusation "appears to be another Rocky Delgadillo press stunt." "We've examined documents and will respond accordingly in court," he said. Steve Remige, president of the Association of Los Angeles Deputy Sheriffs, told KNBC that the system definitely worked in Hilton's favor. "It appears that in Los Angeles County, if you are a wealthy individual or famous individual, that you are getting preferential treatment in the county jail system, in the county criminal system," Remige said. Although the exact terms of her in-house confinement are unknown—who's allowed to visit, whether she can entertain, etc.—most people are figuring that whatever goes on is going to be a pretty posh alternative to spending the next 19 days in a county lockup. Hilton was supposed to serve 23 days at the Century Regional Detention Facility in Lynwood, California, for violating her probation on a drunken driving charge by driving several times with a suspended license. "This makes a mockery of due process, and you're dealing with a spoiled brat, acting out to get her way instead of serving her time as was adjudicated by the courts," L.A. County Supervisor Mike Antonovich told reporters. "She should pay the consequences for her actions and what's happened—she's now going home to her estate." Which, according to a close childhood pal of Hilton's, will be abuzz tonight with friends and family to welcome her home. "It's just friends and hanging out and giving her hugs and kisses and stuff like that, so I hope that I can be a part of it, but we'll see," Caroline D'Amore told E! News' Samantha Harris, adding that she had been trying to reach Hilton since Wednesday night but that the socialite's text messaging and voicemail inboxes were full. A source told OK! magazine, however, that, in light of Hilton's pending court date, all gatherings are off. D'Amore also said that she understood why Hilton reportedly had such a hard time of it behind bars, however brief her stay. "One of my dearest friends was in jail for 24 hours," she told Harris. "Called me crying hysterically, said it was one of the worst, most vile, disgusting things on the planet…She was a changed person, and she was only there for 24 hours." A source told People that Hilton, who was visited by her psychiatrist during her short stint in jail, was crying all the time and, unable to sleep, appeared exhausted and unkempt. Various media outlets reported seeing Kathy and Rick Hilton arrive at their daughter's West Hollywood residence today, with Kathy Hilton telling Extra they were "happy to have her home." In a statement released earlier today, Hilton said: "I am going to serve the remaining 40 days of my sentence. I have learned a great deal from this ordeal and hope that others have learned from my mistakes." Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
CyberGuy Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Paris may be sent back to jail today just because of who she is and the public outrage. If she were like you and me she would be out by now due to overcrowding of the prisons in california and due to her not a danger to society crime. another celebrity was released after 24 hours for the same crime a couple of months ago. Yet not Paris. Why? Because the prosecutor and judge want to seem like heros for being harsh with this Paris who to the public is a coddled rich kid. Is that Fair. Is she being punished for being coddled and rich OR for her real crime? I thought her sentence was way to harsh and was done to prove to society that the courts can be harsh with celebrities. Which in my mind is nothing sort of grandstanding by the judge and prosecutor to the public. Quote Riverside CA
olger Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I think the hug is from Don King, actually... perhaps even scarier than one from the Reverend Al. Big smile. og Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Amelia Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Paris may be sent back to jail today just because of who she is and the public outrage. If she were like you and me she would be out by now due to overcrowding of the prisons in california and due to her not a danger to society crime. another celebrity was released after 24 hours for the same crime a couple of months ago. Yet not Paris. Why? Because the prosecutor and judge want to seem like heros for being harsh with this Paris who to the public is a coddled rich kid. Is that Fair. Is she being punished for being coddled and rich OR for her real crime? I thought her sentence was way to harsh and was done to prove to society that the courts can be harsh with celebrities. Which in my mind is nothing sort of grandstanding by the judge and prosecutor to the public. I don't agree. She was given a sentence and put on parole. She broke her parole. Those who break their parole usually receive another harsher sentence as punishment. If she hadn't thought herself above the law like many others who break parole, then she wouldn't be in this situation now. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
CyberGuy Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I disagree with you Amelia. Paris has been sent back to prison for the FULL 45 days. Why because the judge was angry at the sherrif for releasing Paris dispite the fact the law gives the sherrif that right to oversee his own jail. It was a power struggle to see who has the more power with Paris in the center. Now if the jail is full and her cell needs to be used will she be released. I doubt it because of what the press will say. I know all about high profile cases. My brother in law was inprisoned for a crime he did not do. WHY Politics. He was an out of state person from California doing business in SW Virgina and he was an easy fall guy. Someone had to pay for the hospital going bankrupt and although my sister proved that My brother in law actually made money for the hospital someone had to pay and my Brother in law went to prison for five years. He appealed but was told because his case was such a high profile case his case was denied for political reasons. All appeals were denied for various reasons but the lawyers told him it was for political reasons. Justice??? There is no justice in many cases for rich or poor in america. I will hasten to add that in most cases justice is served. However when emotions run high as in this case justice is never served. The judge would have been better off to let another judge judge Paris as he was to angry with the sherif and Paris Hiltions release to be fair and inpartial. Quote Riverside CA
Woody Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Oh Well ... we can now all give a big sigh of relief that she is back in Jail. But just for the moment. I am sure she will have her high powered lawyers back trying to make a mess of things. The Sheriff had NO business letting her go against the judges orders when UCLA medical center has a contract to treat inmates in Jail. How much better treatment can you get than UCLA ??? What a shame that she was yelling and screaming at the judge and crying for her Mommy. Sad. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Dr. Shane Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 The justice system isn't perfect in the US. I have gotten caught in it myself. Luckly in my case all charges were dismissed but it took over 18 months and $3,000 - and I got off cheap. Yet, compared to many other parts of the world, are justice system is pretty fair. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
CyberGuy Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 It is reported on Fox that the averge person rich poor or white black hispanic or asian is to serve 10 percent of their time for a misdemeaner. Paris by that estimate should have served 4 or 5 days on average. BUT because she is a celebrity and the judge is trying to make it seem he is harsh on celebrities and will not let them get off easy is going harder on Paris. Also it is reported that the sheriff had the authority to release ANY person in his custody that was not in prison for a felony for any reason he deemed neccessary wither medical or for overcrowding. He should have just outright released her but he put a bracelet on her and ordered her to serve her time at home which is what the juged ordered not to happen. IF the sheriff had just outright released Paris then the judge would have no recourse as the sherrif would have been within his rights as the administator of the jail. Again Paris is being punished for being rich and just a spoilt brat NOT because she violated her perole. Is this fair. Is this justice? Get off your emotions against Paris and rich people and look at this from a fair and UNBIASED viewpoint people. Quote Riverside CA
CyberGuy Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Quote: The Sheriff had NO business letting her go against the judges orders when UCLA medical center has a contract to treat inmates in Jail. How much better treatment can you get than UCLA ??? What a shame that she was yelling and screaming at the judge and crying for her Mommy. Sad. Fox reports that the sheriff should have just released Paris. Then he would have been with his right. By putting the bracelet on he violated the judges orders. Yes no one will deny that Paris has the mentality of a child and a spoilt one at that. But is she going to prison for that or because of her crime. It is also reported on Fox that Others who violated their parole for the SAME offense as paris did not go to jail or were sentenced to Jail. The usual punishment is to extend their license suspension or have their car taken away or both. So it would appear the judge is not being fair to Paris Hilton but is making judgements based on his anger in this case. Anger over being overruled by the sheriff and Hilton acting like a child etc. Still you cannot punish Paris for that. This makes it likely the lawyers will appeal this punishment to the court of appeals and will likely win because of that. Then the judge will be the one who will be trying to defend his actions on TV. Quote Riverside CA
Woody Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Quote: So it would appear the judge is not being fair to Paris Hilton but is making judgements based on his anger in this case. Anger over being overruled by the sheriff and Hilton acting like a child etc. Still you cannot punish Paris for that. You are not understanding the justice system correctly. Once you are sentenced ... you are punished or at least not rewarded for your childish yelling and crying. For each day that Paris has good behaviour ... her sentence is reduced by a day. But for each time she yells and screams ... she has to serve that day with no reductions. So ... she will suffer more for acting like a child. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
CyberGuy Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Quote: So it would appear the judge is not being fair to Paris Hilton but is making judgements based on his anger in this case. Anger over being overruled by the sheriff and Hilton acting like a child etc. Still you cannot punish Paris for that. You are not understanding the justice system correctly. Once you are sentenced ... you are punished or at least not rewarded for your childish yelling and crying. For each day that Paris has good behaviour ... her sentence is reduced by a day. But for each time she yells and screams ... she has to serve that day with no reductions. So ... she will suffer more for acting like a child. Then obviously you have not heard the latest. The sheriff has confirmed Paris will only serve 23 days NOT the 45 days. Also she has a medical illness condition for which she was taking medication but the jail was not informed of that and therefore her mental condition was very poor as result and getting worse. The Sheriff read the judges ruling which said that the Sheriff has the authority to release ANYONE on a misdeanor charge he deems is neccessary to release for ANY reason the sheriff deams fit. However it appears the judge wanted to make an example of Paris Hiltion so the Sheriff will abide by that and not realease Paris until the 23 day sentence is finished. However Paris is in the medical jail and will stay there until her mental condition stablizes. So Paris will NOT serve 45 days even if she does act like a child BECAUSE that was a result of her mental illness and by law we cannot punish a person for screaming at a judge because of mental illness. So you are not aware of our judicial system or how it works. Keep up to date on the news and you will sound more intelligent in your posting. Quote Riverside CA
Woody Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Yes ... once a mental illness is documented there are different rules. That would not be considered childish behavior that is called mental illness if her behavior is directly attributed to the mental illness as it apparently has. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
CyberGuy Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Fortuneately for Paris her condition is treatable. Within a couple of days she will be stablized and if she takes her medication she should be fine. However the fact remains that the judge is singling out Paris Hiltion for a harsher sentence than the average person with her EXACT charges would be. Is this Fair? I think not. Quote Riverside CA
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