If Paris Hilton was a Redhead

[Dr. Shane]

First, remember that is LA, which has overcrowding issues. DWI offenders in rural America often serve 30 days or more in jail. I served 17 days in jail in rural Minnesota for driving without insurance. AND THE PROSECUTOR ASKED FOR THREE MONTHS!

Second, since she is a celebrity she should be made an example of - which appears to be the case. Makes one wonder how things are looking for Mel Gibson. These folks are in the spot light and should be used as a deterant.

[CyberGuy]

First of all Paris is serving her time in LA so the LA Times article is relevant to fair treatment. Second the judge put Paris back in Jail NOT to make an example of her but to counter the protests from the press and Emails that Paris was getting preferential treatment. The LA Times article counters that fallacy. Nowhere does the juge say he is trying to make an example out of Paris Hilton. NOWHERE.

Remember everyone including forum members at the beginning of this thread was all claiming Paris was receiving preferential treatment. Where it I do not see any more of that kind of statements. LOL

[Dr. Shane]

The issue is much bigger than Los Angeles, as is that of Mel Gibson. Paris Hilton is receiving justice under the law. Just because others have gotten off easier because of an overcrowded system doesn't mean that Paris is not being treated fairly.

The punishments for drinking and driving related offenses should be much higher than they are. Far too many people die because of these people. I believe I read that 40% of traffic fatalities are drinking or drug related. That is not even taking into consideration all the fender-benders that do not result in fatalities but are also caused by drinking and drugged drivers.

These people make our roads much more dangerous than they have to be. 45 days in jail is getting off easy for doing what she did.

[CyberGuy]

The issue is much bigger than Los Angeles, as is that of Mel Gibson. Paris Hilton is receiving justice under the law. Just because others have gotten off easier because of an overcrowded system doesn't mean that Paris is not being treated fairly.

The punishments for drinking and driving related offenses should be much higher than they are. Far too many people die because of these people. I believe I read that 40% of traffic fatalities are drinking or drug related. That is not even taking into consideration all the fender-benders that do not result in fatalities but are also caused by drinking and drugged drivers.

These people make our roads much more dangerous than they have to be. 45 days in jail is getting off easy for doing what she did.

The fact reamins that Paris Hilton is being treated more harshly because she is a celebrity. If she were just an unknown woman LA Times reports that most likely she would have been book and released with NO JAIL time servied or served 10 percent of her time or 4 days which by the way was when Sheriff Baca released her the first time.

As I said before the Drunk driving is easily remedied. Put a breath analyzer on the car so that the person has to blow into that tester and the person must be sober before the car is allowed to start. That way we keep repeat drunks off the road. Prison time is not necessary and pointless. Alcohol is an addition. You think prison time is going to stop an addition?

[Neil D]

Sorry, Cyberguy...but I am leaning toward the harsher punishment, like Shane.

The issue is much bigger than just driving under the influence. And I still think that Paris is getting off light. Concidering that driving over the legal limit is a crime and what she was convicted of was reckless driving under the influence [granted, a lessor charge, but still related to DUI statues] and then to flagrantly violate her parole, rankles my shackles. If I were to do such a thing, I would expect NO MERCY and would expect to serve my full sentence, even with good behavior.

The judge did the right thing. And even so, 45 days for reckless driving is pretty light. Imagine if she had an accident and harmed someone.....What should the punishment be for someone like that?

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Prison time is not necessary and pointless. Alcohol is an addition. You think prison time is going to stop an addition?

No, I don't...I also think that the punishment should fit the crime. Ms Hilton is a pampered pup, and 45 days in jail in solitary confinemnet is a gentle slap on the wrist compared to being in jail with the other women doing hard time which is where the rest of us lower than high class individuals would be placed if the oppertunity presented itself.

[CyberGuy]

Sorry, Cyberguy...but I am leaning toward the harsher punishment, like Shane.

The issue is much bigger than just driving under the influence. And I still think that Paris is getting off light. Concidering that driving over the legal limit is a crime and what she was convicted of was reckless driving under the influence [granted, a lessor charge, but still related to DUI statues] and then to flagrantly violate her parole, rankles my shackles. If I were to do such a thing, I would expect NO MERCY and would expect to serve my full sentence, even with good behavior.

The judge did the right thing. And even so, 45 days for reckless driving is pretty light. Imagine if she had an accident and harmed someone.....What should the punishment be for someone like that?

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Prison time is not necessary and pointless. Alcohol is an addition. You think prison time is going to stop an addition?

No, I don't...I also think that the punishment should fit the crime. Ms Hilton is a pampered pup, and 45 days in jail in solitary confinemnet is a gentle slap on the wrist compared to being in jail with the other women doing hard time which is where the rest of us lower than high class individuals would be placed if the oppertunity presented itself.

You are making this so easy Neil. My point is that Paris Hilton is being punished for being a celebrity as stated in the LA Times and your last paragraph just verifies that. Punish Paris harshly because she is a pampered Rich kid.

The only reason Paris is separated from the general prison population is that many would like to make a name for themselves by beating up Paris Hilton. Already she has received death threats from inmates in the General Prison population that if they see her and she acts snobbish she is through. That sounds like a threat. So the Sheriff is not taking chances of Paris being harmed while in his custody. It is not favoritism. It is protecting Paris Hiltion from some in the prison population who wish to do her harm.

[CyberGuy]

It would appear that the prosecutor should not have been throwing stones at Paris Hilton as his own house was NOT in order either.

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Hilton's Prosecutor Under Fire for Double Standard

Jun 20, 1:45 PM EST

The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- The wife of the city's top prosecutor has an outstanding arrest warrant for failing to appear in court nine years ago on charges of driving without insurance, with a suspended license and in an unregistered car.

City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo got Paris Hilton jailed for violating probation for driving with a suspended license, then condemned her early release. Now, he says he's embarrassed about the outstanding bench warrant for his wife, Michelle, the Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday.

Rocky Delgadillo said he didn't know about it until this week and has urged his wife to remedy the situation.

"My wife is embarrassed about this, and I am embarrassed as well," he said.

The couple also has been chronically late in paying fines for at least five parking tickets in the last three years, the newspaper reported. One violation for parking in a red zone in December 2006 was not paid until the newspaper inquired about the tickets last month, by which time the $70 infraction had become a $174 fine with penalties.

A spokesman for Delgadillo said the city attorney's wife was responsible for all the parking tickets and delinquent payments.

The new developments were the latest driving-related issues to dog Delgadillo and his wife.

On Monday, Delgadillo apologized for keeping quiet about a 2004 accident in which his wife crashed his city-issued vehicle while driving on a suspended license. Delgadillo said he was reimbursing the city for the $1,222 repair.

The prosecutor has said Michelle Delgadillo's offenses are not comparable to those of Hilton, who is serving a 45-day sentence for violating her probation in an alcohol-related reckless driving case.

In the latest disclosure, Michelle Delgadillo said she was "very embarrassed" and was working to resolve the arrest warrant issue as soon as possible.

"I will do whatever the court instructs me to do. I apologize for any embarrassment this has caused my husband and family," she said in a statement to the newspaper.

"It is completely my mistake." Michelle Delgadillo was cited by a California Highway Patrol officer on Aug. 1, 1998, in Santa Monica for allegedly driving with an expired Montana driver's license, the Times reported, citing court documents. The citation — issued two weeks before she married Delgadillo and written under her maiden name, Namen — said the tan BMW 325 she was driving had expired tags and she had no proof of insurance. The Santa Monica city attorney's office filed a three-count criminal case. When she did not appear in court a month later for her arraignment, a judge issued a $2,000 bench warrant, according to the newspaper. The warrant remains active, according to officials with the Santa Monica city attorney's office.

[CyberGuy]

Now the question is should the prosecutors wife serve time in jail for this or not. Obviously she was aware of it and the defence that she forgot about it will not fly here.

[Woody]

First Offense is a whole lot different than violation of probation.

[CyberGuy]

It is more than just a first offense.

The couple also has been chronically late in paying fines for at least five parking tickets in the last three years, the newspaper reported. One violation for parking in a red zone in December 2006 was not paid until the newspaper inquired about the tickets last month, by which time the $70 infraction had become a $174 fine with penalties.

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I doubt they would have paid the fine until the newspaper called them on that. Also chronically late in paying fines for FIVE parking tickets.

Seems Paris Hilton is not the only one who thinks they are above the law. Even the prosecutor seems to think that.

[Dr. Shane]

This shows what the Hilton's money can do. I am sure they hired a private investigator to dig up something on what they believe to be their "enemies".

I served time in jail for driving without insurance. It is irresponsible but does not compare to alcohol-related driving offenses. By no stretch of the imagination should this prosecutor's wife be treated like Paris Hilton. Should she get jail time? Perhaps a little. But Paris should be doing more than she is too. And since Paris is a celebrity, she should get a full sentence so she is made an example of.

[David Koot]

Wow, Shane, have you ever got it "IN" for Paris Hilton and family! Woo-hoo!

[CyberGuy]

The wife know about this. One does not forget that they were arrested and hauled into court so easily. Dirt no it was the press who did the digging. The same press who mocked and laughed at Paris Hilton. This woman should serve some time in jail After all she would have left this unrectified if the press had not dug up this info. I would stop trying to put everything on Paris. The prosecutor has become well known and there was an outstanding warrent on his wife. I would not put it past that county's police to let it slip to the press that she was wanted for unpaid fines and not showing up for a court case.

But on a lighter note. Paris is going to be paid $1,000,000.00 that is one million dollars by a news agency to tell her story of prison life. Boy Wish I could get a million dollars for telling my story. I would gladly serve 23 days in prison for a million bucks. LOL

[Dr. Shane]

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Dirt no it was the press who did the digging.

Anyone want to by a bridge?

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Paris is going to be paid $1,000,000.00 that is one million dollars by a news agency to tell her story of prison life.

Good. Hopefully that will mean less people will get behind the wheel after they have been drinking.

[Woody]

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Anyone want to by a bridge?

Yeah ... I went "by" that bridge a few years back but decided not to buy it.

In other words Shane ... I agree with you.

[CyberGuy]

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Dirt no it was the press who did the digging.

Anyone want to by a bridge?

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Paris is going to be paid $1,000,000.00 that is one million dollars by a news agency to tell her story of prison life.

Good. Hopefully that will mean less people will get behind the wheel after they have been drinking.

Well sorry to disappoint you but because of the public backlash for now NBC withdrew the offer. News sources say somebody most likely will pay for the story as that would mean big bucks but for now until Paris is out Late Monday night or early Tuesday morning that no one is willing to make public any offer.

But you have failed Shane to offer any REAL proof that the Hiltons were behind digging up that dirt on the prosecutors wife. It is all speculation that is not worth a penny unless backed up with hard facts.

[CyberGuy]

Paris Hilton's Prosecutor Under Scrutiny

Jun 25, 1:22 PM EST

The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- When Paris Hilton was sprung from jail early, few were as outraged ? and as outspoken ? as the prosecutor who put her there.

But City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo's complaints of a two-tiered jail system where "the rich and powerful receive special treatment" have come to back to haunt him.

Soon after Hilton was sent back to jail earlier this month, he acknowledged his wife had committed a similar infraction ? driving with a suspended license. Among other things, he also admitted sticking the taxpayers with the bill after his wife crashed his city-issued car in 2004, and acknowledged that staffers have occasionally run personal errands and baby-sat his children.

"He was living in somewhat of a glass house," said Raphael Sonenshein, a political scientist at California State University, Fullerton.

The disclosures have led the California bar and the city Ethics Commission to open investigations of one of Los Angeles' highest-ranking law enforcement officers.

The furor has sent the normally publicity-friendly politician into virtual hiding. Delgadillo's office declined to comment.

Delgadillo is a 46-year-old up-and-coming Democrat whose close advisers are said to refer to themselves as "Team 1600," a reference to the Pennsylvania Avenue address of the White House.

The son of an engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Rockard Delgadillo grew up in East Los Angeles and won a scholarship to Harvard, where he played football. He earned his law degree from Columbia University.

He was a deputy mayor to Richard Riordan and an entertainment attorney for powerhouse legal firm O'Melveny &Myers, where former Secretary of State Warren Christopher practices.

In 2001, he was elected to the first of two terms as city attorney, becoming the first Mexican-American to hold citywide office in three decades.

He ran unsuccessfully for California attorney general last fall. Apart for some questions about his claims of gridiron glory, including a boast he played pro football (he tried out for New York Giants but didn't make the team), he had had little trouble in office up until two weeks ago. That was when Delgadillo decried Hilton's release from jail by the sheriff. He argued that Hilton should serve more time behind bars for driving with a suspended license and violating her probation on alcohol-related reckless driving charges. On the same day, he acknowledged that his wife, Michelle, got a ticket for driving with a suspended license in 2005. Just like the hotel heiress, his wife claimed to be unaware of the suspension, he said. The difference, however, was that her license had been suspended for failing to show proof of insurance after a fender bender. She, unlike Hilton, was not driving drunk, Delgadillo said. More than a week later, amid mounting pressure from the Los Angeles Times and other local news media, he disclosed that his wife banged up his city-issued GMC Yukon in 2004 while driving with a suspended license and that he left the taxpayers to foot the $1,222 repair bill. He reimbursed the city last week. "I realized that I should have spoken up earlier. That was a mistake," he said. "I mishandled the situation and I apologize." Then it emerged that his wife had an outstanding arrest warrant for failing to appear in court on charges of driving without insurance and other offenses dating to 1998. She resolved the case Wednesday by pleading no contest to a misdemeanor. "I was disorganized," Michelle Delgadillo told a TV station on Thursday. "There's no excuse for it. I'm not going to make excuses for myself. I have to be an organized person, there's no doubt about it. I made a mistake." It turned out she wasn't the only one in the family who drove without insurance: Her husband later acknowledged he had gone a year without coverage. The Times, which followed Delgadillo's troubles in an editorial page fixture it called "Rocky Watch," also reported that the city attorney had used members of his staff to run personal errands and baby-sit his two young sons. A spokesman for Delgadillo confirmed that staff members have tended to some family and personal needs, but on their own time or during lunch breaks. Finally, it was discovered that a consulting and business development company operated by his wife failed to file state tax returns for several years and did not have a city business license. On Friday, she paid an undisclosed amount in fees and penalties for not registering her company with the city, but said she reported the consulting income on her personal tax returns. "Here's a sobering observation," the Times editorial page wrote. "Any police officer who committed Delgadillo's offenses would be fired, and appropriately so. Why does the city's top law enforcement official get a better deal than its rank and file?"

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[CyberGuy]

This prosecutor should have followed Christs advice. Let those without sin throw the first stone. Or the saying. Those in glass houses should not be throwing stones.

This guy will rue the day he prosecuted Paris Hilton.

[CyberGuy]

Paris Hilton Released From L.A. Jail

Jun 25, 4:00 AM EST

The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- Paris Hilton left jail Tuesday after a bizarre, three-week stay in which the hotel heiress was briefly released to her Hollywood Hills home, then sent screaming and crying back to a county lockup.

The 26-year-old celebutante walked out of the all-women's jail in Lynwood to an enormous horde of cameras and reporters after midnight. She had checked into the jail, largely avoiding the spotlight, late June 3 after a surprise appearance at the MTV Movie Awards.

Hilton smiled as she left the jail, her blonde hair pulled back in a ponytail. Her parents, Kathy and Rick, met her in a black SUV as cameras snapped pictures and Hilton, wearing a gold blouse with white trim over a white shirt and black slacks, waved to the crowd.

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She didn't say anything, and it wasn't immediately clear where she was going.

"She fulfilled her debt. She was obviously in good spirits. She thanked people as she left," said sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore.

Hilton will complete her probation in March 2009 as long as she keeps her driver's license current and doesn't break any laws. She can reduce that time by 12 months if she does community service that could include a public-service announcement, the city attorney's office has said.

Hilton began her 45-day sentence for violating her probation in an alcohol-related reckless driving case. She was mostly confined to a solitary cell in the special needs unit away from the other 2,200 inmates.

She spent only three days there and was released with electronic monitoring by Sheriff Lee Baca for an unspecified medical condition that he later said was psychological.

The following day Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer, who sentenced the hotel heiress, called her back into court and ordered her returned to jail, saying he had not condoned her release.

Hilton left the courtroom in tears calling for her mother and shouting, "It's not right!"

She was then taken to the downtown Twin Towers jail, which houses men and the county jail's medical treatment center, where she underwent medical and psychiatric exams to determine where she should be confined.

Hilton's stay there cost taxpayers $1,109.78 a day, more than 10 times the cost of housing inmates in the general population.

The move by Baca caused a firestorm of criticism over whether the celebrity was getting special treatment. The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors has launched an investigation into whether the multimillionaire received special treatment because of her wealth and fame.

At least one person has filed a claim against the county alleging she "had serious medical issues" but was treated much worse than Hilton.

A few days into her stint at the Twin Towers medical ward, the heiress revealed in a phone call to Barbara Walters a new outlook on life.

"I used to act dumb. It was an act. I am 26 years old, and that act is no longer cute," Hilton said during the call, according to an account posted June 11 by Walters on ABC's Web site.

"It is not who I am, nor do I want to be that person for the young girls who looked up to me," Hilton was quoted as saying.

Hilton's path to jail began Sept. 7, when she failed a sobriety test after police saw her weaving down a street in her Mercedes-Benz on what she said was a late-night run to a hamburger stand.

She pleaded no contest to reckless driving and was sentenced to 36 months' probation, alcohol education and $1,500 in fines.

In the months that followed, she was stopped twice by officers who discovered her driving with a suspended license. The second stop landed her in Sauer's courtroom, where he sentenced her to jail.

[Woody]

Sounds like a three time loser.

[CyberGuy]

Sounds like a three time loser.

Yeah that prosecutor should have just kept his mouth shut when Paris was let out of Jail early.

People in glass houses should not be throwing stones.