Roger Morneau - A Trip Into the Supernatural

[Lineman]

(199 minutes)

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

That's way too long for me to watch, but I have read several of his books on prayer, and one where he wrote a bit about his life in the world of the occult. An amazing man.

[rush4hire]

Something seems not right here. How are we going to get accurate information about Satan from Satan worshippers? That reminds me of this evangelist who was supposedly casting out a devil:

Evangelist: "What kind of spirit are you?"

Devil: "I'm a lying spirit!"

Evangelist: "Are you telling the truth?"

God has given us quite a bit of information about the workings of Satan and his angels, through Scripture and EGW writings.

This whole "occult experience" thing seems like a gimick.

Quote:

The disposition to flatter and exalt those who have been rescued from the lowest depths sometimes proves their ruin. The practice of inviting men and women to relate in public the experience of their life of sin is full of danger to both speaker and hearers. To dwell upon scenes of evil is corrupting to mind and soul. And the prominence given to the rescued ones is harmful to them. Many are led to feel that their sinful life has given them a certain distinction. A love of notoriety and a spirit of self-trust are encouraged that prove fatal to the soul. Only in distrust of self and dependence on the mercy of Christ can they stand. {MH 178.1}

I know you will hate me for that. Most people do. They love a sensational new kind of testimony, like this.

[Taylor]

From what I understand he was a really good man. He died a few years ago. He knows the "satanism" first hand as he used to be one, before he knew Christ. But I haven't read the book or seen the video.

[John317]

But the Bible shows that the demons do indeed tell the truth under certain circumstances, such as when they are being cast out. They are terrified of Christ and of His strong angels.

[John317]

This whole "occult experience" thing seems like a gimick.

Quote:

The disposition to flatter and exalt those who have been rescued from the lowest depths sometimes proves their ruin. The practice of inviting men and women to relate in public the experience of their life of sin is full of danger to both speaker and hearers. To dwell upon scenes of evil is corrupting to mind and soul. And the prominence given to the rescued ones is harmful to them. Many are led to feel that their sinful life has given them a certain distinction. A love of notoriety and a spirit of self-trust are encouraged that prove fatal to the soul. Only in distrust of self and dependence on the mercy of Christ can they stand. {MH 178.1}

I know you will hate me for that. Most people do. They love a sensational new kind of testimony, like this.

The quote is true, but you will notice the Spirit of prophecy does not say that demon possession is not true or that that demons are not cast out of people.

It's true, though, that there are fakes and gimmicks out there. There always are. But Satan uses the fakes to make people think maybe it's all fake, just like he does with false prophets.

[rush4hire]

I'll make some notes then, and some admittedly biased comments....

It looks like he read some of Ellen White's books and formed some sensational stories that would match with that.

Satan told them he would resurrect them?

He represents himself to his deluded subjects as a redeemer, assuring them that his power has brought them forth from their graves and that he is about to rescue them from the most cruel tyranny. {GC 663.1}

[Woody]

I have his CDs ... but am just not into that kind of stuff.

However ... I think he can be a blessing to some.

[John317]

I know this is off the topic but I was wondering if you're studying the lesson quarterly about the Atonement. It looks very good. I'm really looking forward to this one.

[Woody]

Yep. Haven't started this weeks yet though except to glance through it.

[rush4hire]

I was going to take more notes, but I tried to resize the window that had the google video, and it froze up my computer, so I had to pull the plug. I was 1 hour, 12 min. into the video, with about 2 hours to go. So, I can't finish watching it. My download speed is just too slow, and google video sometimes decides to not let me finish downloading.

This may be the Lord's providence. If I had spent the next 2 hours watching that, it would probably have been a complete waste of time.

I would not recommend this video, or any of Roger Mornough's sensational videos or books. I can't see Ellen White endorsing this kind of material. Most of the things this "Satanic High Priest" supposedly told him, can be found in Ellen White's writings, which I do recommend. Others have researched the kind of things practiced in secret societies. Jim Arrabito is a good source. Hopefully those videos will be back online soon.

[Nan]

I have read several of Roger Morneau's books in the past, though not very recently, and found them

profitable. That includes the Journey to the Supernatural. One thing that impressed me, which he wrote, was his warning about trivialising demon possession to everyday occurrences, and becoming obsessed with such.

My overall impression is that we probably do not remember each day the supernatural powers which would like to enslave us, and that one day we will appreciate the protection we have been given.

[Guest truthseeker007]

Rush i totally believe that Roger is speaking the truth. Trust me, i have studied hundreds of sources before i came to this video. This video contains the absolute truth. What you have to keep in mind is that the inner core of Luciferians receive more truth than the outer core of deception. Roger makes perfectly clear how evolution, atheism and scientific occultism came into being the last couple of centuries. He was not supposed to get out of there alive.

I think it is strange that you give so much credit to the Davidians, while at the same time you dismiss Roger s testimony as a deception. I am quite sure that Roger is telling the truth in his testimony.

[bygjymbo]

I've read Roger's stuff with great interest. I can tell you first-hand that these things exist.

About 5 years ago, I fell in love with a witch. When she told me that "the Pagan blood was strong in her", I laughed in her face. I was too "realistic" to believe in that nonsense. We dated for a little over a year. I met her through my best friend at the time.

I came to realize that she was literally Demon-infested. And after a while, I was too. I've seen many with my own eyes...had long conversations with two in particular and had a "familiar spirit" for many months. Unlike Roger, who was courted by these powers, it seemed that they wanted me destroyed.

Before turning to Jesus, I tried to use my intellect to figure out these strange occurences. I used the internet. I called on old friends who might be able to shine some light.

I discovered that I've known more that one witch in my life...in fact...I was engaged to one twenty-some years ago and didn't have a clue. (She gave me a doll for protection. When I threw it away, she texted me that she knew, even though she was 2000 miles away.)

So you see, these forces ARE all around us. They DO try to infiltrate our lives. Take a minute to think about what "Pricipalities and powers, spiritual wickedness in high places" might mean.

It was THROUGH witchcraft that God got my attention. I can't think of any other way that would have worked. I gave a brief testimony when 3ABN broadcast from my church about a year ago. Immediately after, someone came to me and told me that their tetimony was just like mine!

Jim

[Gail]

Roger was indeed a remarkable person. When I read his books, the thing that impressed me was how French he was. If I remember correctly, he was Quebecois. I've known many Quebecois in my life- his passion is typical. This may be what is throwing you off.

But he was widely respected within the mainstream Adventist circles as a very humble person. His method of praying the atoning blood of Christ on behalf of others made an impression on me.

Intercessory prayer seemed to be his gift. I wish that there were more such prayer warriors among us!

[Gail]

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Unlike Roger, who was courted by these powers, it seemed that they wanted me destroyed.

Seems to be a common theme among those I've known in the occult. It makes me sad and angry.

Praise God, who has through the Cross reconciled us to Him! He has won the war! One day this suffering will be over!

[bygjymbo]

A little bit more....

Remember, I dated this girl for a year. I knew her, her family, her associates (coven), her children. Even though I was far from being an insider, I could see the influence that she wielded. Both sides of the fence.

[bygjymbo]

Being attacked by Demons isn't the tragic part. These things are no match for Jesus.

I was mostly an innocent bystander in all of this. I never courted it, nor wanted it.

But had I been actively seeking this power, it would be almost impossible to put down.

Spiritism is rampant in the world today. They're indoctrinating anyone who listens. THAT'S the tragedy!!

[rush4hire]

me, i have studied hundreds of sources before i came to this video. This video contains the absolute truth.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I was a witch for about 10 years. There are what we called "fluffy bunny" witches - those who simply dabbled in Magick, or the *wannabes*.... then there are the *real* thing. I was the real thing.

I was pagan for certain, for the 1st 7 or so years, but I did not worship Satan. I worshipped the goddess - which one does not matter. Then I gradually started in on the LHP - the LEFT HAND PATH. That is where you will find the Satan worshippers - the darker side of Magick. (The Right Hand Path are the Wiccans, the Mother Earth Nature Lovers, the Tree Huggers, for example. They worship Nature, and perhaps a goddess, in the form of the moon, or some such.)

At times, I've been told that my testimony could be a real witness for Jesus. Other times (like the EGW quote above states) I think to myself that people would get the impression that I was trying to impress them with my background or knowledge or whatever. So....lately.....I've not said much regarding my life as a witch. I don't want to make people feel like that's all there is to me. I live and I will die for Jesus now.

p.s. I am familiar with demons. I was inhabited by several trying to kill me. Prayer and anointing was done and took care of the problem.

[bygjymbo]

Hey Rudywoofs,

After getting active and literal help from an active and literal God, I wish that I could do more.

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

In the Biblical sense, our testimony should be that of Jesus Christ.

But our personal testimony shows how Jesus saves.

I can understand your hesitancy to "brag" or to glorify Satan's minions. But I'd like to make myself available to anyone that God sends my way.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I don't think I've ever glorified Satan or his minions in my testimony. And I do try to share my story with people when they ask about it. :smile: One thing I will NOT do, however, is get up in front of a congregation and tell them what real witchcraft is all about. One church wanted me to do that around Halloween time, and I flat out refused.

[Gail]

Pam-

Thank you for your sensitivity to others. Other people don't need to know everything in lurid detail.

Those in similar need will rejoice to hear how God has brought you. I've said this before, that those with a similar history to yours know firsthand the Great Controversy between Christ and Satan. They can speak of the power of our Creator and risen Saviour with an intimate knowledge that we just don't have in the same way.

The battle is real. Keep hangin on!

[Gail]

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After getting active and literal help from an active and literal God, I wish that I could do more.

Amen!! Thank you for sharing this! I wish you unending strength and peace in your continued walk with the Lord :)

[Nan]

Pam, your testimony of your current walk with Jesus gives me much joy.