Club Adventist and the Jesuits...

[Stan]

I have to ask this... why is their fear and trembling from some people over Jesuits?

Will a Jesuit make me lust or covet?

Will a Jesuit have me mistreat an Animal?

Will a Jesuit force me to listen to too much classical music?

Will a Jesuit for me to vote R or D against my free will?

Will a Jesuit make me say the Rosary?

Will a Jesuit attempt to make us change from Sabbath to Sunday?

Can I use the excuse... A Jesuit made me do it?

Please when you respond give your own answers and not copy and paste someone else's comments.

[aldona]

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Will a Jesuit force me to listen to too much classical music?

That might not be such a bad thing...

I must be a secret Jesuit. Is there a way to check?

aldona (more likely secret Quaker infiltrator)

[Neil D]

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Will a Jesuit force me to listen to too much classical music?

That might not be such a bad thing...

I must be a secret Jesuit. Is there a way to check?

aldona (more likely secret Quaker infiltrator)

Oh, I am sure that this must be a bad thing....

Neil [who claims to be a Jesuit to throwart ultra conservative Adventist who know when Jesus is "truely" coming...]

[Nan]

Isn't the theory the Jesuits have much bigger fish to fry - they are going to manipulate the

political scene, and infiltrate the churches, and things like that?

[Neil D]

Isn't the theory the Jesuits have much bigger fish to fry - they are going to manipulate the

political scene, and infiltrate the churches, and things like that?

But why, Nan? I mean, who are they trying to control among the Adventist people? We eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, we smile [at least SOME of us do], we fix food for others, we get together for some bible study or nature hikes....Why control this type of people?

[Nan]

I am not propounding reasons....just quoting the stories I have heard. (sorry Stan if that is against

your intent for this thread).

[Neil D]

Not trying to put you into a cornor....Just making an observation with a very TIC statements... I guess what I am trying to say is WHO ARE WE TO THINK THAT WE ARE AT THE TOP OF THE JESUIT AGENDA?....we are not active either politically, socially...we are nearly a closed society, and we don't like ourselves very much or we'd be seein' other members within our church more often...We don't like people very much, as we move out into the country [thank you EGW]. We avoid giving living sermons....we just are not much use to the jesuit cause....

[Nan]

I guess it all depends whether you think the Jesuits see the church as a renegade group likely to

resist the influence of the Catholic church in the future.

[Woody]

I have been called a Jesuit more than once on this forum. And even Blanche who has never appeared on this forum .... SHE has been accused on this forum of being a Jesuit.

So, I can speak with some authority when I say NO to all of Stan's questions.

I hope this clarifies the matter once and for all.

[Neil D]

I guess it all depends whether you think the Jesuits see the church as a renegade group likely to

resist the influence of the Catholic church in the future.

It's the ol' "Convert to Catholism or die" ploy....But why do the Catholic want us? makes no sense...

[Stan]

So what is the real fear about the Jesuits?

Make any changes in our Church Teachings is almost impossible for even US to do :)

[rush4hire]

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I have to ask this... why is their fear and trembling from some people over Jesuits?

Will a Jesuit make me lust or covet?

Will a Jesuit have me mistreat an Animal?

Will a Jesuit force me to listen to too much classical music?

Will a Jesuit for me to vote R or D against my free will?

Will a Jesuit make me say the Rosary?

Will a Jesuit attempt to make us change from Sabbath to Sunday?

Can I use the excuse... A Jesuit made me do it?

This is a very good point. And that is why I defy the Jesuits, openly and fearlessly. I will take after Alberto Rivera, Jim Arrabito, Walter Veith.

I remember when a Roman Catholic priest stood in this studio and told me that they where watching me,

and that they where serious about any threat to what they wanted to do.

I told them 'Go ahead. Shoot. What difference does it make? As long as I'm alive, I'll present this truth. But if I die, then my troubles are over.'

Everyone that will be in heaven will have suffered for Christ.

When we get there, our Master will have scars in His hands, and only if we suffer will we feel we have a perfect right to that place.

In fact in Revelation 12, verse 11 it says "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

This message we have to give, we've got to give without worrying about consequences.

It's a divine message of truth.

It can't fail.

We're fulfilling the prophecies of the closing events and it's going to go through to completion.

It's time for all of us Adventists to wake up, give up the things of this world and go forward and give this message.

(That's at 1:53 minutes, in this video: The Secrets of the Jesuits (Jim Arrabito))

That's the kind of fearlessness that we need now. And that's what it's going to take to get this message out. What message? The Loud Cry of Rev. 18 that EXPOSES all the sins of Babylon.

Walter Veith takes off where Jim Arrabito left off, like no other evangelist I know of. It looks like he uses all of Arrabito's material, in addition to his own.

Jesus promised:

[color:#BF0000]Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither [any thing] hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

What exposes these things?

[color:#BF0000]Eph. 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now [are ye] light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

....

5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

The light by nature exposes the things in darkness. And why is it important manifest such things? Many reasons. But #1, because it saves lives.

[color:#BF0000]Luke 9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save [them].

In the book of Esther, Mordecai exposed 2 conspiracies, and saved the lives of thousands of Jews, and they made a holiday to remember that event.

The prophets never fail to expose the conspiracies that affect God's people. And they don't talk about world events from the public perspective, but they always tell of events from behind the scenes, to expose everything:

[color:#BF0000]1 Kings 21:7 And Jezebel his wife said .... I will give thee the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.

21:8 So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed [them] with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that [were] in his city, dwelling with Naboth.

21:9 And she wrote in the letters, saying, Proclaim a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people:

.....

21:13 And there came in two men, children of Belial, and sat before him: and the men of Belial witnessed against him, [even] against Naboth, in the presence of the people, saying, Naboth did blaspheme God and the king. Then they carried him forth out of the city, and stoned him with stones, that he died.

Why would you want to cover up for these corrupt rulers, and elders and nobles, and these men of Belial, who are willing to murder an innocent man to give the king another vineyard? These are the men you take sides with, instead of the prophets?

[Neil D]

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This is a very good point. And that is why I defy the Jesuits, openly and fearlessly.

Explain to me one thing, Rush....

What Jesuits?

Where are they? Who are they? What is their goal? And why control Adventists?

If there is no evidence, IOWS, if your religion is against a myth, what good is your religion if it doesn't deal with truth/reality?

[rush4hire]

[color:#BF0000]John 18:20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

Matt. 10:27 What I tell you in darkness, [that] speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, [that] preach ye upon the housetops.

This is the example of Jesus. And in case anyone is afraid of exposing secrets, Jesus said, in the next verse:

[color:#BF0000]Matt. 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Kennedy did not fear them which kill the body, but he shouted upon the housetops the things that where being done in secret, in the US government:

“The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings.

“For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence; on infiltration instead of invasion; on subversion instead of elections; on intimidation instead of free choice; on guerrillas at night instead of armies by day.

“It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

“Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised.

“No expenditure is questioned. No rumor is printed. No secret is revealed. It conducts the cold war, in short, with a wartime discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

“Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security and the questions remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion.

“That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people, confident that with your help, man will be what he was born to be, free and independent.” - John F. Kennedy, 1917-1963

[Stan]

Rush... no quoting..

Tell me what you are afraid of them doing? Please..

[rush4hire]

Explain to me one thing, Rush....

What Jesuits?

Where are they? Who are they? What is their goal? And why control Adventists?

If there is no evidence, IOWS, if your religion is against a myth, what good is your religion if it doesn't deal with truth/reality?

I'm not talking about the Adventist church, except in the capacity, that it is our duty, being enlightened in these issues, more than others, to show the world the plans of the Papacy to unite:

1. The nations of the world

2. The religions of the world

3. The secret societies of the world

[color:#BF0000]Rev. 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Dragon = secret societies

Beast = nation

False prophet = religion

The lamb-like beast speaks like a dragon. The dragon is ancient Rome, that passed on it's ways through the Papacy. These are the secret occult societies that control things from behind the scenes. Our government is full of members of secret societies. She's possessed by the dragon.

Next verse, the Lord reminds us to be WATCHFUL:

[color:#BF0000]Rev. 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed [is] he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

This is prophecy in the fulfilling, friends. If you're not a part of it, you'll be missing out. If you're willing to get it some honest study, you can learn some things.

[Stan]

You are missing the whole point of this... what are Jesuits going to do to you?

[Norman Byers, N.D.]

Stan, good question

I guess the same can be asked about Masons. It's susperstitious minds that causes people to get all bent out of shape. They have no power to do anything other than any other man or woman.

I've never heard of a Jesuit causing the sea to part or calling fire down from heaven. If we are looking for someone to be concerned about it should be the devil. If we are really looking for someone to fear, let it be God who can destroy both the soul and the body in the fire that is unquencable till nothing is left to burn.

Norman

[rush4hire]

So what is the real fear about the Jesuits?

Make any changes in our Church Teachings is almost impossible for even US to do

[Stan]

Did the Jesuits take away your understanding of no quotes?

SO WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH YOU AND ME?

[rush4hire]

It's obvious you want to insult me and deny me the ability to defend myself.

[Stan]

No you can defend the position, just defend it without quoting Texts that can be interrupted 4 different ways. OR copying and pasting the same thing over and over..

Just make your own statements..

[rush4hire]

No you can defend the position, just defend it without quoting Texts that can be interrupted 4 different ways. OR copying and pasting the same thing over and over..

Just make your own statements..

The information I posted about the workshops is brand new. I never posted about those things before. I just learned about those things, myself, in the videos I just watched.

And I posted web sites, as solid evidence of what the Jesuits are doing right now, with the guided meditation workshops, and the other programs based on the teachings of Loyola.

I don't know how you expect to get any real information, in answer to your questions, if you won't allow that information to be posted. So why are you asking the question, and don't allow a legitimate answer?

I did my best to interpret your question, assuming it was a legitimate question, and not just a childish attempt to make fun of someone, but now I have to wonder. It looks like you believe me to be paranoid and delusional, and you want to make fun of me for that. If I post information that proves beyond any doubt that I am not paranoid, but that the Jesuits really are cooking up all sorts of programs to unite all the religious of the world, then you will delete that evidence.

[Amelia]

Rush, not what the jesuits are doing in general but what are they doing to you personally? Can you form your own thoughts on this topic? If you are only able to copy and past or quote someone elses views then I have to assume that you have no first hand knoweledge of jesuits at all. And that means all your posts are meaningless.

Think for yourself for once and quit letting cut and past make you look foolish.

[Woody]

Rush ... could I be a Jesuit and not know it?