olger Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 The Miss California beauty contestant was put on the spot by a judge's question about gay marriage. Knowing it could cost her the win, she said that people are free to choose for themselves but that she believes that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that's the way it should be. She lost. But she won big, for standing up to error. Good stuff and well done, `oG My wife just showed me this... Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Amelia Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Interesting. Usually in these types of competitions everyone uses the standard pat answers. I wonder what the winners answer to this question was? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Woody Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Very Good. The judge actually confessed that her answer DID cost her the crown. And she is getting lots of grief because of it. Thanks for the post Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
carolaa Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 But she feels like she is the winner because she stuck with her convictions. Good for her. Quote
Administrators Gail Posted April 21, 2009 Administrators Posted April 21, 2009 Good for her! I'm sure she will think it infinitely better than having said something she either did not believe or would have regretted later. She's a smart girl for knowing that temporary fame is just that- temporary. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Moderators Bravus Posted April 21, 2009 Moderators Posted April 21, 2009 Guess I'm the only one then: 1. What she so bravely stood up for is prejudice (OK, I know we can argue about this one forever) 2. The story is being spun everywhere as 'she would have won if not for this', but there's no way at all of knowing that - there are dozens if not hundreds of imponderables in how beauty contest winners are chosen Quote Truth is important
bonnie Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Guess I'm the only one then: 1. What she so bravely stood up for is prejudice (OK, I know we can argue about this one forever) 2. The story is being spun everywhere as 'she would have won if not for this', but there's no way at all of knowing that - there are dozens if not hundreds of imponderables in how beauty contest winners are chosen Prejudice because of a personal belief?? Where is it written that all must believe a marriage means two men or two women as well as a man and woman? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Administrators Gail Posted April 21, 2009 Administrators Posted April 21, 2009 I liked her honesty and the courage to be honest in the face of opposing popular opinion. What we think of the opinion is perhaps another subject, as well as the "that's the way it should be." That also can be debated. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Moderators Bravus Posted April 21, 2009 Moderators Posted April 21, 2009 If it was 40 years ago and her personal opinion was 'black people and white people shouldn't eat in the same restaurants', would we still be lauding her courage? Quote Truth is important
Administrators Gail Posted April 21, 2009 Administrators Posted April 21, 2009 If it was 40 years ago and her personal opinion was 'black people and white people shouldn't eat in the same restaurants', would we still be lauding her courage? That WAS the popular view in some areas in those days! BUT if she had said in that time that they SHOULD eat together, bucking the trend, that would be something, I think so! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Administrators Gail Posted April 21, 2009 Administrators Posted April 21, 2009 Needless to say I don't know if that would have won her the contest back then... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Liz Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Interesting. Usually in these types of competitions everyone uses the standard pat answers. I wonder what the winners answer to this question was? The winner got a different question. It was "do you believe that taxpayers money should be used to bail out big business, why or why not?". Needless to say, she said "no" and practically got a standing ovation. Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes.
Administrators Gail Posted April 21, 2009 Administrators Posted April 21, 2009 BTW- when watching the movie Milk, I also admired Mr. Milk for standing up for his convictions... It was hard for him, too Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Administrators Gail Posted April 21, 2009 Administrators Posted April 21, 2009 The winner got a different question. It was "do you believe that taxpayers money should be used to bail out big business, why or why not?". Needless to say, she said "no" and practically got a standing ovation. I'd love to insert one of Pam's smilies right about here- the one where smiley is sitting at the computer drinking a coffee and just watching... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Woody Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Guess I'm the only one then: 2. The story is being spun everywhere as 'she would have won if not for this', but there's no way at all of knowing that - there are dozens if not hundreds of imponderables in how beauty contest winners are chosen The judge indicated clearly that her response was the reason she lost. The judge is a homosexual. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators Bravus Posted April 21, 2009 Moderators Posted April 21, 2009 There is not only one judge. Quote Truth is important
Members phkrause Posted April 21, 2009 Members Posted April 21, 2009 Now you had to go and say that! hahaha Yes a very good question bravus. But I believe that honesty is the best policy. Not sure that she would be that honest, but I have to give her credit for standing up for what she believes. And have to hope that she would've stood up to that 40 years ago, if she believed that than. And as far as this judge is concerned, he should keep his personal feelings out of this. She's only answering what she was asked. Would he have praised her if she said I think all men should be with men, and all women should be with women. Even if she did say that, he wouldn't have the right to give his opinion. He's a judge. At least that's my 2 cents worth. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 The judge said that she was well ahead before this question. Now ... was he speaking for himself or all the tabulations ... I don't know. But this judge that posed the question is a homosexual.He had a bias on this question. This was the last and deciding part of the contest. I think it was unfair for him to give such a provocative question to her and a noncontroversial question to the other finalist. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
carolaa Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Personally, I thought it was a very bad question. I admire her for answering truthfully, though. It goes to show how political these things are. If you give the politically correct answer, you have a better chance of winning. Quote
Woody Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 The homosexual judge should have excused himself if he felt he needed to ask such a provocative question. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 BTW .... afterwards this homosexual judge said she lost because she is a dumb b_ _ _ _ . Hardly a fair judge. She said she prayed to God before answering and wanted to be true to the Biblical aspects of this question and not the PC response. She is an extremely articulate young woman. Far more than most of the contestants that I heard. She says it was a test of her faith, character and integrity. Not to mention ... pretty fair to look at. Which qualifies her to go into politics which she says she might now be interested in. Perhaps we have a good VP choice for Sarah? For full disclosure ... I got this info from a live interview on F _ _ Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
olger Posted April 21, 2009 Author Posted April 21, 2009 Personally, I thought it was a very bad question. I admire her for answering truthfully, though. It goes to show how political these things are. If you give the politically correct answer, you have a better chance of winning. Amen to Carola and a modest thumbs up. OG Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Moderators Bravus Posted April 21, 2009 Moderators Posted April 21, 2009 I agree that it is unfair that this contestant was asked such a contentious question and others were asked much easier and less controversial ones. Quote Truth is important
carolaa Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Well, apparently, God has other things in mind for her. You never know..... Quote
olger Posted April 22, 2009 Author Posted April 22, 2009 I agree that it is unfair that this contestant was asked such a contentious question and others were asked much easier and less controversial ones. Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
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