Parents dub Sept. 8 'Keep Your Kids at Home Day'

[Tom Wetmore]

And it is exactly the same thing, almost verbatim, that HW Bush included in his education speech to students when he was Prez... And nobody blinked or got all hysterical about his speech then.

There is just way too much partisan paranoia now...

As Joe Scarborough (a conservative Republican) on Morning Joe said this morning - It is time to call stupid people out on this sort of nonsense.

[bonnie]

And it is exactly the same thing, almost verbatim, that HW Bush included in his education speech to students when he was Prez... And nobody blinked or got all hysterical about his speech then.

There is just way too much partisan paranoia now...

As Joe Scarborough (a conservative Republican) on Morning Joe said this morning - It is time to call stupid people out on this sort of nonsense.

What people like you miss is that it is not all conservative paranoia.

Conservatives have never backed Obama so it is not the conservatives that is presenting so many of the problems to Obama.

Most that I have heard or talked to had a problem with Obama when they heard the tape played in Utah pledging to "serve Obama" and the letter writing to say how they could help the president.

That did not play well with many across party lines.

His faliures are catching up,his glib promises meaning something altogether different than what he is saying,his demeaning and ridiculing those that oppose him,telling them to shutup,he doesn't want to hear them.

Conduct like this usually does catchup with a person. We have gone so far in this country that those that reject a self proclaimed communist as right wing extremist or people just being petty instead of objecting to a communist in US policy

This also is no longer "just" conservatives. Most in this country, when brought to their attention have difficulty with a communist,not voted in,not vetted in responsible positions. Sole responsibility to the president of the US that knows of his communist ideology

The glow about Obama is fading and continues to. In Ohio this weekend a tea party brought far more participants than a appearance of Obama.

[Zeta]

Give it a rest Bonnie!!! End the propaganda.

We recognize that no rational explanation or analysis is going to be acceptable to you. Prehaps there is more going on with you.

As, far as more liberal not supporting Obama; prove it, let's see your data.

I am not a democrat, nor do I consider myself a starch liberal or a roll up sleeve' conservative. We have a situation in Washingtom (new face), that is not going to change, so deal with it. We are a "United State", not everyone is going to be served or satisfied but, we must all stand together to support and protect what freedom we have. Divide and conquer doesn't always work!

offering my opinion............

[Guest]

Hey Zeta, Your opinion stinks.

[Guest]

Originally Posted By: Tom Wetmore

And it is exactly the same thing, almost verbatim, that HW Bush included in his education speech to students when he was Prez... And nobody blinked or got all hysterical about his speech then.

There is just way too much partisan paranoia now...

As Joe Scarborough (a conservative Republican) on Morning Joe said this morning - It is time to call stupid people out on this sort of nonsense.

What people like you miss is that it is not all conservative paranoia.

Conservatives have never backed Obama so it is not the conservatives that is presenting so many of the problems to Obama.

Most that I have heard or talked to had a problem with Obama when they heard the tape played in Utah pledging to "serve Obama" and the letter writing to say how they could help the president.

That did not play well with many across party lines.

His faliures are catching up,his glib promises meaning something altogether different than what he is saying,his demeaning and ridiculing those that oppose him,telling them to shutup,he doesn't want to hear them.

Conduct like this usually does catchup with a person. We have gone so far in this country that those that reject a self proclaimed communist as right wing extremist or people just being petty instead of objecting to a communist in US policy

This also is no longer "just" conservatives. Most in this country, when brought to their attention have difficulty with a communist,not voted in,not vetted in responsible positions. Sole responsibility to the president of the US that knows of his communist ideology

The glow about Obama is fading and continues to. In Ohio this weekend a tea party brought far more participants than a appearance of Obama.

Amen

[Neil D]

Hey Zeta, Your opinion stinks.

[bonnie]

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Give it a rest Bonnie!!! End the propaganda.

We recognize that no rational explanation or analysis is going to be acceptable to you. Prehaps there is more going on with you.

???Zeta????

I have yet to see a rational explanation for the number of unvetted czar's. More importantly we need an explanation for a self proclaimed communist being placed in the position he was.

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As, far as more liberal not supporting Obama; prove it, let's see your data.

Well if I get around to it today I may. The numbers of conservatives that disapprove of Obama has always remained pretty consistent. How do you explain the polls,from any group show the same. Obama's support is waning. His numbers cannot be explained by "conservatives"

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I am not a democrat, nor do I consider myself a starch liberal or a roll up sleeve' conservative. We have a situation in Washingtom (new face), that is not going to change, so deal with it. We are a "United State", not everyone is going to be served or satisfied but, we must all stand together to support and protect what freedom we have. Divide and conquer doesn't always work!

offering my opinion............

No,we have another election coming next year,I doubt any of us will bend to your idea that a president was elected so he can do anything he chooses.

Supporting and protecting freedoms is what it is all about. Obama is not about freedoms.

Obama has publically stated to a question he was asked,"If you want to know where I stand look to the people I surround myself with". Bingo,he told the truth.

[Zeta]

Thanks, Holbrook. As, I said 'it is my opinion'.

[Guest]

You're welcome, I try to go that extra mile not to be blunt.

[bonnie]

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And what you miss is that this is either conservative paranoia or it is racial bias. You guys get to choose which you prefer...racists or paranoids...I don't like those choices personally. And I would hate to use them.....but facts are facts and we have seen it here on Club Adventist...

Accusing others of racism is probably the only way you can promote your own views. I don't care if the president is a little green man from mars. He has a duty in the office he holds. You cannot provide where racist comments have been made concerning the president. He has in turn made racist/bigoted comments.

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Zeta, am working on getting you to our forum. There's a couple of things that I am working on, but hopefully you will be able to actually discuss without the conservative paranoia or the racial remarks in MY forum...Of course, you can also come here and contrast sensible discussion vs this ...stuff....as you will....

Neil,what you are saying is untruthful. Trying to lay discontent of Obama on his race. That is all the rebuttal that is left it seems.

Zeta,I am sure you will enjoy the private forum you are being invited to. No one will disagree with you,no matter "what"" is said.

There can be a wide difference between what is sensible and what is not.

It is really sad tho that publically the only way someone can justify their ideology is to accuse someone of racism.

[Guest]

I agree Bonnie.

[bonnie]

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Richard, in my forum, this would have got you banned for 30 days. As a moderator, I am to report this to the proper people.

I am sure you can report this one as well Neil. This simply is not true and you know it.

How does saying someone's opinion stinks compare to "scum sucking pig" and "evil dog"

Someone disagreeing with you does not mean racism. Someone disliking Obama's policies and less than transparency doesn't either.

But the claim and accusation can be effective. When that is all you have for rebuttal it is pretty sad

[Neil D]

Bonnie,

You've been thru this before.

I'm not moderator of this forum...but as a moderator , I feel that this needs to be reported to the powers that be. First to the moderator(s) of this forum and then to the administration.

This attitude can spread to other areas if unchecked. We've see it before.

This attitude doesn't need to spread thru other forums. As a moderator who oversees other forums, and a user, I don't like this and don't want to see it nor deal with it in my forums.

Christians are first, children of God. As such, they reflect His character and His name. I don't see Him saying things like "Your opinion stinks, [insert name of individual]" ...Even in dealing with Satan, Jesus was rather forthright and polite.

Now, if you want to talk about ME, I never use the word "pig" nor "dog" toward an individual. Never. "Scum sucking" is rather a colorful phrase, and I love using it in reference to ideas....or myself. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Stan...

[Zeta]

Why is it that the guilty always scream the loudest. If the shoes fit walk in them!!!!!

This forum appear to be one of "Hate" and innuendos, not facts or any supporting data. Bonnie, you make this site as uncomfortable

as a 'dental' visit.

I took the time to go to the beginning of this forum and read each post. what i found is that your comments are delivered like a dictator, with no authority.

Somewhere down the line, i think you forgot this is a christan-based

forum. Not one of alienation. We can all agree to disagree however

your's are always negative and antagonistic.

Remember your christian values should far out weigh anything political. It's all about love and respect.

O'kay Bonnie, I will await your negative rebuttal.

Your sister in Christ.

[Neil D]

Folks....

we need to keep these discussion to the thread, and not ver off into a personal direction....

[Zeta]

Why is it that the guilty always scream the loudest. If the shoes fit walk in them!!!!!

This forum appear to be one of "Hate" and innuendos, not facts or any supporting data. Bonnie, you make this site as uncomfortable

as a 'dental' visit.

I took the time to go to the beginning of this forum and read each post. what i found is that your comments are delivered like a dictator, with no authority.

Somewhere down the line, i think you forgot this is a christan-based

forum. Not one of alienation. We can all agree to disagree however

your's are always negative and antagonistic.

Remember your christian values should far out weigh anything political. It's all about love and respect.

O'kay Bonnie, I will await your negative rebuttal.

Your sister in Christ.

[Zeta]

sorry, resubmitted this post by mistake.

Be Blessed.

[bonnie]

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Why is it that the guilty always scream the loudest. If the shoes fit walk in them!!!!!

Sorry ??Zeta???,you really need to read a little more carefully. Exaggeration isn't nice. I am not screaming and I rarely wear shoes.

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This forum appear to be one of "Hate" and innuendos, not facts or any supporting data. Bonnie, you make this site as uncomfortable

as a 'dental' visit.

Sorry if you are so thinned skin. Maybe someone disagreeing with you makes you uncomfortable but that is a democracy isn't it.

Maybe you can show me what has you so uncomfortable.

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I took the time to go to the beginning of this forum and read each post. what i found is that your comments are delivered like a dictator, with no authority.

Maybe your time would be better spent in checking out Obama's stats.

I have not dictated anything to you at all,but again if you understand english and the meaning of words provide me with what I dictated to you or anyone.

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Somewhere down the line, i think you forgot this is a christan-based

forum. Not one of alienation. We can all agree to disagree however

your's are always negative and antagonistic.

Being oppossed to Obama and his policies means negative to you. Good.

I am negative to a man with is ideology holding the highest office in the US. His close relationship to people like Ayers,Wright,the green czar and others of like mind is a cause for concern for some. Especially those that would like to see this land as free as possible for as long as possible.

Obama said,look to those he surrounds himself with to know hhis policies. I did

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Remember your christian values should far out weigh anything political. It's all about love and respect.

Christian values do not mean agreeing with those that are oppossed to your christian values.

I respect those that are upfront and honest. I have never dealt well with those that show one face publically and another privately. Christian speak has a name for that.

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O'kay Bonnie, I will await your negative rebuttal.

Am I right,that if I agree with you,you won't think it is negative. If I disagree with everything you have stated it becomes negative??

I guess I can live with that

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Your sister in Christ.

A few words or phrases of christian speak are abused,overused and bear little resemblance to the original meaning.

Love,"sister or brother in Christ" I am sorry" get a good workout because they are stretched and pulled till they take the shape someone wants.

I do not have to tailor what I believe to what you claim to believe.

If I do not agree with much of what you and "others" claim that is all it means. Not racist or bigoted.

[John317]

As a moderator to everyone on this thread:

Get back to the topic and get off the personal stuff.

Remember that it's perfectly OK to disagree with ideas and opinions, but rebut and attack the ideas and opinions, not individuals.

[phkrause]

Come on Richard, Zeta makes some valid points. It seems we are either to the left or the right and no one is willing to except the other. But if someone is willing to compromise than everyone is yelling look there changing there minds. No one can win for losing.

pk

[Guest]

Zeta knows I meant no harm.

[Dr. Shane]

Hey Zeta, Your opinion stinks.

We need to be a little more respectful than that when disagreeing here.

[Dr. Shane]

As a moderator, I am to report this to the proper people.

There is a notify button at the bottom of each post. I think I will be notified if someone uses it. Please feel free to do so. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

[Guest]

Ok Shane, I will.

[phkrause]

Good points John, seems like if your are for one party or the other and they do something that the other party doesn't like, you are at fault because you backed that guy. Isn't that the purpose of a two party or more system, you find something in common with whomever you back? Otherwise why not have just one party?

pk