Passenger tries to blow up airliner on Christmas Day

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

By LARRY MARGASAK and LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer – 11 mins ago

WASHINGTON – A Northwest Airlines passenger landing in Detroit on Friday tried to blow up the flight but the explosive device failed, two U.S. national security officials said.

The passenger, who was traveling on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam, was not identified. He was being questioned Friday evening, according to one of the officials, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing.

The motive of the Christmas Day attack was not immediately clear.

"He appears to have had some kind of incendiary device he tried to ignite," said one of the U.S. officials.

Authorities initially believed the passenger had set off firecrackers that caused some minor injuries.

Delta Air Lines spokeswoman Susan Elliott said the passenger was subdued immediately. She had no details on the injuries. Delta and Northwest have merged.

One passenger from the flight was taken to the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor, hospital spokeswoman Tracy Justice said. She didn't know the person's condition, or whether the person was a man or woman. She referred all inquiries to the FBI.

An FBI spokeswoman in Detroit said the incident is being investigated. It came just as the flight, an Airbus 330 carrying 278 passengers, was arriving in Detroit from Amsterdam.

Passenger Syed Jafri, a U.S. citizen who had flown from the United Arab Emirates, said the incident occurred during the plane's descent. Jafri said he was seated three rows behind the passenger and said he saw a glow, and noticed a smoke smell. Then, he said, "a young man behind me jumped on him."

"Next thing you know, there was a lot of panic," he said.

Rich Griffith, a passenger from Pontiac, said he was seated too far in the back to see what had happened. But he said he didn't mind being detained on the plane for several hours. "It's frustrating if you don't want to keep your country safe," he said. "We can't have what's going on everywhere else happening here."

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[phkrause]

Wow people are really getting crazy rudywoofs. I saw on the news today some lady jumped over a row of pews and grabed the Pope and pulled him down.

pk

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Wow people are really getting crazy rudywoofs. I saw on the news today some lady jumped over a row of pews and grabed the Pope and pulled him down.

pk

I read about the Pope...seems the lady attacked him and they both fell down with the Pope landing on top of the lady. Didn't hurt though. The lady apparently has mental problems, according to the report I read.

[phkrause]

Originally Posted By: pkrause

Wow people are really getting crazy rudywoofs. I saw on the news today some lady jumped over a row of pews and grabed the Pope and pulled him down.

pk

I read about the Pope...seems the lady attacked him and they both fell down with the Pope landing on top of the lady. Didn't hurt though. The lady apparently has mental problems, according to the report I read.

Even though it was not a funny thing, I still laughed, I thought it was pretty funny watching her jump over and grabing him and than falling over. hahahahaha

ps: Also was thinking that if he were really Gods rep here on earth why no lighting didn't come down from heaven and strike her just as she jumped.

pk

[Kountzer]

Originally Posted By: rudywoofs

I read about the Pope...seems the lady attacked him and they both fell down with the Pope landing on top of the lady. Didn't hurt though. The lady apparently has mental problems' date=' according to the report I read. [/quote']

Even though it was not a funny thing, I still laughed, I thought it was pretty funny watching her jump over and grabing him and than falling over. hahahahaha

ps: Also was thinking that if he were really Gods rep here on earth why no lighting didn't come down from heaven and strike her just as she jumped.

pk

Yep, that thought ran through my mind also. DB

[phkrause]

Originally Posted By: pkrause

Yep, that thought ran through my mind also. DB

pk

[Steve Billiter]

Originally Posted By: rudywoofs

I read about the Pope...seems the lady attacked him and they both fell down with the Pope landing on top of the lady. Didn't hurt though. The lady apparently has mental problems' date=' according to the report I read. [/quote']

Even though it was not a funny thing, I still laughed, I thought it was pretty funny watching her jump over and grabing him and than falling over. hahahahaha

ps: Also was thinking that if he were really Gods rep here on earth why no lighting didn't come down from heaven and strike her just as she jumped.

pk

Maybe she's an ex-SDA and saw hallucinations of the beast power and went on the attack!

[Outta Here]

Maybe this will help answer the question as to why there was no lightning. (By the way, Christians all, should be God's representatives on earth.)

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

LOL Cute video...makes one think...

[phkrause]

Very interesting Aubrey.

pk

[hfsturges]

pkrause,

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Wow people are really getting crazy rudywoofs. I saw on the news today some lady jumped over a row of pews and grabed the Pope and pulled him down.

Hey, PK, don't you know English? That wasn't a "lady," it was a "woman."

[BSW]

Here is another article I found on how this will take even more of our liberties, possibly.

Bathroom Visits Now Considered Potential Terrorism

Paul Joseph Watson

Monday, December 28, 2009

As a result of the highly suspicious incident on Christmas Day where a Nigerian man on a terror watchlist with no passport and explosive materials was allowed to board Delta Flight 253, suffocating security paranoia has been implemented to the point where bathroom visits are now considered potential terrorism.

Another Nigerian man who became ill and was forced to spend a considerable amount of time in the toilet became the focal point of another terror scare yesterday after pilots aboard Delta 253, the same plane involved in last week’s incident, requested emergency assistance upon landing.

The Joint Terrorism Task Force and Homeland Security descended to investigate the crisis and President Obama was even informed of the deadly security threat prompted by the man taking a dump.

After hours of media frothing about a second terrorist incident, the truth finally emerged.

“A passenger on today’s Northwest flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit spent an unusually long time in the aircraft lavatory,” Homeland Security press secretary Sara Kuban said in a statement.

“The passenger in question, a Nigerian national, was removed from the flight and interviewed by the F.B.I.; indications at this time are that the individual’s behavior is due to legitimate illness, and no other suspicious behavior or materials have been found.”

And yet this farce represents merely the tip of the iceberg in terms of the intensified harassment and lunacy now being witnessed in airports across the world all in the name of preventing a threat that is in reality less deadly than lightening strikes and peanut allergies, both of which have killed more Americans over the past few decades than terrorism.

If you thought that mothers having to taste their own breast milk and naked body scans was a little over the top, it’s only going to get worse as a result of an incident that has all the hallmarks of a staged event. Body searches, baggage searches and vehicle searches even outside of the airport are now taking place with a wanton disregard for the 4th amendment.

Authorities are too busy shaking down Grandma to really care about how a man who was known to be a security threat, was on a terror watchlist, had no passport and had explosive materials embedded in his clothing was allowed to board a plane, aided by a sharp-dressed man who lied about his circumstances.

Once again, Americans who will willfully endure whatever humiliation they are ordered to undergo are being trained to obey the most ridiculous rules in the airport so that similar measures can eventually become a normal routine on the streets, in shopping malls and any other places of public gathering.

This is all being metered out in the name of protecting the sheeple from a terrorist threat that the government, through its own deliberate actions, manufactured alerts and intelligence failures, has sought to proliferate at every turn.

I hope we all see how fast things can happen and how things may happen in the very near future. It is time to get our spiritual houses in order. Isn't this exciting?!

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Would you like to be on a plane that gets blown to bits by a terrorist passenger?

[BSW]

Perfect love casts out all fear; all. If I fear I deceive myself. I suspect that the reason the bomb did not ignite is because there was at least one that had no fear as well. (Is there a riddle in there?)

Is that bad?

[BSW]

We only find perfect love in Christ. Because of His perfect love, I understand perfect liberty.

What a King!

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I suspect that the reason the bomb did not ignite is because there was at least one that had no fear as well. (Is there a riddle in there?)

Is that bad?

That's a weird thinking process.

[bonnie]

Perfect love casts out all fear; all. If I fear I deceive myself. I suspect that the reason the bomb did not ignite is because there was at least one that had no fear as well. (Is there a riddle in there?)

Is that bad?

By that reasoning is it safe to assume those that died in the 9/11 attack did not have the right faith? Those on the hijacked planes didn't have at least one on board that had no fear?

Are those killed in the many different ways that cause death and heartache lacking something that caused them to lose their lives?

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Originally Posted By: BSW

Perfect love casts out all fear; all. If I fear I deceive myself. I suspect that the reason the bomb did not ignite is because there was at least one that had no fear as well. (Is there a riddle in there?)

Is that bad?

By that reasoning is it safe to assume those that died in the 9/11 attack did not have the right faith? Those on the hijacked planes didn't have at least one on board that had no fear?

Are those killed in the many different ways that cause death and heartache lacking something that caused them to lose their lives?

Bonnie, that's exactly what I was thinking.

[bonnie]

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Bonnie, that's exactly what I was thinking.

That is a whole new thought to me. Not one I can get my head around

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I agree...it's a weird thinking process..

[BSW]

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is it safe to assume those that died in the 9/11 attack did not have the right faith?

Yes, it is always safe as well as healthy to assume...right?

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Those on the hijacked planes didn't have at least one on board that had no fear?

One may assume, in my opinion. I believe in liberty. If you want to think someone on those planes had no fear great! but if I don't, why would it bother one with no fear? Peace must never be sacrificed, perfect peace. Know matter how we see anything. In all things we are to give praise and thanksgiving!

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Are those killed in the many different ways that cause death and heartache lacking something that caused them to lose their lives?

I don't know. Jesus said we are to worry about the living (Luke 9:59,60). The dead are gone. I honor those souls, by working for those I can.

Think about the poor soul that touched the arc back in David's day. Or in Jesus' day when a building fell on a bunch of people. Bad things happen to good people. We cannot explain much of anything, so we should all keep an open mind, and allow someone the right to be as wacko as they choose. In my opinion.

[BSW]

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I suspect that the reason the bomb did not ignite is because there was at least one that had no fear as well. (Is there a riddle in there?)

Is that bad?

That's a weird thinking process.

The riddle is this: The reason the bomb did not ignite on the Delta flight and is very near. (Not very good...iknow.)

The answer: Christ Jesus. He had no fear, and those that have Jesus have no fear. (I should have worded the sentence: I suspect that the reason the bomb did not ignite is because Jesus said no.)

Answer to the question: No. It's never bad to have Jesus.

So there you go...weird thinking process...

[GreatLakesGramma]

All the more reason not to fly commercially. I never have, and I never will.

And I don't mean terrorism, I mean intrusive security.

[bonnie]

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Yes, it is always safe as well as healthy to assume...right?

No it is not always safe to assume. From your post it seemed that my assumption had a reasonable chance of being correct,but it was so foreign to what I believe and have never heard anyone else with that belief I asked.

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One may assume, in my opinion. I believe in liberty. If you want to think someone on those planes had no fear great! but if I don't, why would it bother one with no fear? Peace must never be sacrificed, perfect peace. Know matter how we see anything. In all things we are to give praise and thanksgiving!

Not sure what this has to do with liberty. You are at liberty not to fly if you don't like the rules.

I can think of a number of reasons someone would fear.I don't know of anyone that is excited at the prospect of dying.Nor do I believe your claimed lack of fear in any and all situations will always keep you safe.

For those trapped I can see plenty of reason to fear being burned to death.

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I don't know. Jesus said we are to worry about the living (Luke 9:59,60). The dead are gone. I honor those souls, by working for those I can.

There is a big difference in "worrying" about the dead and grieving for those you have lost.

I don't worry about my deceased sisters or my parents at all.

I simply miss them and the older I get the more I realize what I have lost in this earthly life.

Does this mean if you have lost close family members you cannot do both, I honor those souls, by working for those I can.

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Think about the poor soul that touched the arc back in David's day. Or in Jesus' day when a building fell on a bunch of people. Bad things happen to good people. We cannot explain much of anything, so we should all keep an open mind, and allow someone the right to be as wacko as they choose. In my opinion.

Maybe the guy that touched the ARK should have had a little healthy fear

How can you believe bad things happen to good people. I understood that if you have no fear as was possibly true on this aircraft you will be safe.

Didn't you say earlier that there must have been one without fear and that in effect saved all of them?

Some people do fear the unknown,I don't as I believe I know,but my lack of fear of that is not going to keep me safe.

I don't care how wacko someone is.I don't think anyone challenged the right of anyone to be as wacko as they cared to be.

But I will pass on keeping a open mind to this belief.

I don't think prayer will necessarily save a person.

My parents taught us to not only pray for protection but to pray for the strength to cope with what may come.

Many good well grounded christians pray for protection and for some reason they are not.

Prior to the death of my sisters my mother never started the car without a prayer. She ended up needing all the strength God gave her to survive both physically and mentally.

For whatever reason God did not prevent us from being in the path of a drunk driver and NO,I don't believe they died because there was not anyone in the car that was without fear.

They died because of a irresponsible drunk,not fear.

We won't know on this earth why the terrorist failed and others have succeeded.

[phkrause]

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Yes, it is always safe as well as healthy to assume...right?

No it is not always safe to assume. From your post it seemed that my assumption had a reasonable chance of being correct,but it was so foreign to what I believe and have never heard anyone else with that belief I asked.

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One may assume, in my opinion. I believe in liberty. If you want to think someone on those planes had no fear great! but if I don't, why would it bother one with no fear? Peace must never be sacrificed, perfect peace. Know matter how we see anything. In all things we are to give praise and thanksgiving!

Not sure what this has to do with liberty. You are at liberty not to fly if you don't like the rules.

I can think of a number of reasons someone would fear.I don't know of anyone that is excited at the prospect of dying.Nor do I believe your claimed lack of fear in any and all situations will always keep you safe.

For those trapped I can see plenty of reason to fear being burned to death.

Quote:

I don't know. Jesus said we are to worry about the living (Luke 9:59,60). The dead are gone. I honor those souls, by working for those I can.

There is a big difference in "worrying" about the dead and grieving for those you have lost.

I don't worry about my deceased sisters or my parents at all.

I simply miss them and the older I get the more I realize what I have lost in this earthly life.

Does this mean if you have lost close family members you cannot do both, I honor those souls, by working for those I can.

Quote:

Think about the poor soul that touched the arc back in David's day. Or in Jesus' day when a building fell on a bunch of people. Bad things happen to good people. We cannot explain much of anything, so we should all keep an open mind, and allow someone the right to be as wacko as they choose. In my opinion.

Maybe the guy that touched the ARK should have had a little healthy fear

How can you believe bad things happen to good people. I understood that if you have no fear as was possibly true on this aircraft you will be safe.

Didn't you say earlier that there must have been one without fear and that in effect saved all of them?

Some people do fear the unknown,I don't as I believe I know,but my lack of fear of that is not going to keep me safe.

I don't care how wacko someone is.I don't think anyone challenged the right of anyone to be as wacko as they cared to be.

But I will pass on keeping a open mind to this belief.

I don't think prayer will necessarily save a person.

My parents taught us to not only pray for protection but to pray for the strength to cope with what may come.

Many good well grounded christians pray for protection and for some reason they are not.

Prior to the death of my sisters my mother never started the car without a prayer. She ended up needing all the strength God gave her to survive both physically and mentally.

For whatever reason God did not prevent us from being in the path of a drunk driver and NO,I don't believe they died because there was not anyone in the car that was without fear.

They died because of a irresponsible drunk,not fear.

We won't know on this earth why the terrorist failed and others have succeeded.

Very good points Bonnie.

pk