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in my excited state, who would either wound himself or actually kill someone, other than the one intended.

I think it is safe to say that you should never own a gun. Or handle anyone else's for that matter.

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A stranger and I were walking away from a convenience store last night, and we saw coming toward us two people each with two guns. We passed each other and were thankful that nothing happened, and we went behind the next building and climbed up on the roof, all the while talking about what just happened, and about trying to stay safe. After we saw things were normal and seemed stable, we climbed down and continued talking. I was explaining my decision to buy a revolver, because they are ready to fire, whereas a semi-automatic has to have a bullet chambered before it is ready, and that was when I woke up.

When you go back to sleep and end up with the semi automatic anyway, just remember to go ahead and jack one in the chamber and flip the safety on. It's called cocked and locked. Problem solved.

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Neil, I came here to apologize for posting my reply to you in anger. If I hadn't been angry, I would have said the same thing, but left out "like you" in the second paragraph.

I am sorry for that. But while I am here I want to address something else you've said since:

This isn't about me, Catherine...It's about a young internet adventist who hasn't posted here of late since your comment.

You're wrong. It IS about you. You are the one who's taken offense. In case you hadn't noticed, ever since Cosmin and his family moved to Romania, his participation here has been sporadic. He's had some pretty caustic comments directed at him in the past, which he told me about in a private conversation I had with him almost a year ago. If he were as sensitive to criticism as you seem to think he is, he would have left the forum long ago.

Catherine

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It IS about you. You are the one who's taken offense.

This is ONE time ... I wish Olger was around.

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should have a contest,

Who is the most toxic poster?

I want to vote in this contest.

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Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
should have a contest,

Who is the most toxic poster?

I want to vote in this contest.

I'm in, this should really awaken certain people that think that they are not in that catagory!

pk

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Haven't read this whole thread, just bits and pieces, but based on the bitterness and aggression shown in the thread, my strong impression is that SDAs should never own guns. bwink

Truth is important

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Haven't read this whole thread, just bits and pieces, but based on the bitterness and aggression shown in the thread, my strong impression is that SDAs should never own guns. bwink

Its like those behind the wheel of a car, that's called roadrage I wonder what being behind a gun in the same mood would be called mindrage? LOL

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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Haven't read this whole thread, just bits and pieces, but based on the bitterness and aggression shown in the thread, my strong impression is that SDAs should never own guns. bwink

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Haven't read this whole thread, just bits and pieces, but based on the bitterness and aggression shown in the thread, my strong impression is that SDAs should never own guns. bwink

I don't think that all SDAs will fit into your little category.

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Originally Posted By: Bravus
Haven't read this whole thread, just bits and pieces, but based on the bitterness and aggression shown in the thread, my strong impression is that SDAs should never own guns. bwink

I don't think that all SDAs will fit into your little category.

Why? Do you feel you're an exception?

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I don't think that all SDAs will fit into your little category.

Why? Do you feel you're an exception?

It sounds to me there are quite a number that could fit that bill. I know there are times I could, but others that I know don't even let me get near one. So in the long run I stay away.

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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Its like those behind the wheel of a car, that's called roadrage I wonder what being behind a gun in the same mood would be called mindrage? LOL

pk

PK,

You are generally a pretty fair man. While it is true rage was shown and a attempt by some to make those with guns in their home less,most did not exhibit rage.Unless you consider those with guns in their home disagreeing with non gun owners showing rage.

I don't recall each post but remember true rage being shown by one. The faith of others was questioned and a willingness to have others do what a person themselves felt wrong. If defending oneself is wrong,then asking others to defend you,at times with guns is wrong as well.

The Amish has been mentioned as a example.We have some Amish in northern MN.True pacifists. They will not even testify in court against those that have harmed them as they do not want the responsibility of sending another to prison.They will never call someone with guns to do what they believe is wrong.

It would be interesting to see what you classify as mind rage

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pk. You've given me the (dis)credit for saying something I didn't say !!! I think Richard said that! :)

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pk. You've given me the (dis)credit for saying something I didn't say !!! I think Richard said that! :)

Sorry Woody, would not want to (dis)credit you for something that Richard said, or I just read it wrong.

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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General Comment,

So, true to form another thread degenerates into 'name calling'...ho-hum...samo-samo. SDAism at its finest!! blowing

Well ... some of it actually got moderated. We can be thankful for small favors.

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Bonnie, I was basically responding to Bravus' comment. So maybe I generalized a bit to much, sorry. But I agree that one person did say something that was deroggatory. But I also read all the responses to that statement and, granted that he had them coming, but I would find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't have wanted to let him have it. Now I'd like to go back to a statement I made a long time ago, that a lot of the in your face statements that get made on the internet would never be made face to face.

But I far as I'm concerned I have no problem with people that own or don't own a weapon. That is a choice each should make on there own and should not be condemned for that choice.

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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should have a contest,

Who is the most toxic poster?

I suspect that we would all lose.....

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.

 

George Bernard Shaw

 

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That's generous of you.

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Originally Posted By: Richard Holbrook
I don't think that all SDAs will fit into your little category.

Why? Do you feel you're an exception?

I think most SDAs would be an exception to such a broad statement. But especially the ones I know from this part of the country.

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Maybe it's just the ones who struggle to 'get' an obvious joke, even when it has a huge smiley beside it as a clue, who should be kept away from the guns? bwink

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O good people of Adventist forums, I have not been insulted, or will be by anyone! If you think I have not replied to this thread because someone supposedly insulted me, then your wrong. The reason I did not respond to this thread was during that time it was late and I went to be before I managed to see any new posts. I am also not easily offended, you can come and insult me, vulgarly and non, talk about my mother, talk about my father, I just don't care, and no, I am not one of those people that pretend they don't care when they are insulted and keep the insult in themselves (Over time it becomes a bomb) and tell no one about it. I just DON'T CARE if someone talks bad things about me. It just proves that they are lower then me. Also, I was not offended by any of this just so you don't think I am calling you lower then me tongue.

And a quote to go with this as well:

Never listen to a idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Happy Sabbath to you as well.

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It's good to see you again, Cosmin. I like your signature ticker.

Catherine

God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26.

"To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis

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