Why are so Many Women Unhappy?

[CGMedley]

Why are so many women unhappy? Are men the reason? Albert Mohler shares an insightful commentary on this delicate topic. You can read it this week's Adventist Review.

http://www.adventistreview.org/article.php?id=3123

[Twilight]

Maybe the feminist movement have ignored the order presented by God in Eden...

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This injunction was not optional.

God gave it for a reason.

Of course feminism and "culture" seem to want to over-rule this and to even point to it will often raise cries of "sexism".

But God established this order in the home for a purpose.

If this is what feminism is attacking, then of course women will be unhappier.

Anything that goes against the will of God will cause unhappiness...

Mark :-)

[LynnDel]

Are you sure that is an injunction in that text? I just thought it was the result of sin, a prophecy of natural consequences.

If it is an injunction, then I guess I am not following it, because I am not sorrowful. And if it is an injunction for women to be sorrowful, women who are sad should be praised - and articles written about why women are unhappy would be an odd direction to take!

LD

[Gerr]

Careful with that tongue, buster! Another comment like that and you might be looking for dentures!

[Neil D]

Maybe the feminist movement have ignored the order presented by God in Eden...

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This injunction was not optional.

God gave it for a reason.

Of course feminism and "culture" seem to want to over-rule this and to even point to it will often raise cries of "sexism".

But God established this order in the home for a purpose.

If this is what feminism is attacking, then of course women will be unhappier.

Anything that goes against the will of God will cause unhappiness...

Mark :-)

Mark,

Are you saying that because of Eden, one person in the family, was to be subserviant to the other? Are you saying that man is to rule over his woman? Are you inplying that "headship" is a God ordained program for familys?

Or are their other indications that the pronouncement [notice, I didn't say "command"] came about?

[Twilight]

Originally Posted By: Twilight

Maybe the feminist movement have ignored the order presented by God in Eden...

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This injunction was not optional.

God gave it for a reason.

Of course feminism and "culture" seem to want to over-rule this and to even point to it will often raise cries of "sexism".

But God established this order in the home for a purpose.

If this is what feminism is attacking, then of course women will be unhappier.

Anything that goes against the will of God will cause unhappiness...

Mark :-)

Mark,

Are you saying that because of Eden, one person in the family, was to be subserviant to the other? Are you saying that man is to rule over his woman? Are you inplying that "headship" is a God ordained program for familys?

Or are their other indications that the pronouncement [notice, I didn't say "command"] came about?

I am saying that women have something in them that resists God ordained authority.

They inherited that from Eve.

Because of that, God has decreed the order as stated in Eden.

Now I know of no other "order" ascribed by God in the bible?

We try to get around this, but we fail miserably.

That "getting around it" is often brought in by feminist attitudes.

So often we talk about the problems that "men" cause in the church, but we consider it almost "heretical" to consider how women can damage a church.

Consider Pauls counsel to a church where women were trying to "rule over men", go home and be taught of your husband was his counsel.

Very straight.

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Now this does not imply some type of victorian male dominance in the relationship, but more on that later...

But I am guessing within 5 more posts, that charge will be made...

Mark :-)

[karl]

Why are so many women unhappy? Are men the reason?

Possibly. Especially if they are trying to get into men's heads. Men and women occupy different headspaces. (I know that the laws of physics demand this for people in general, but what I mean is: different genre of headspaces.)

The difference is not tied to intelligence. There are very intelligent women whose knowledge of cars stops with suspecting that "go" is better than “won't go.” They could understand cars if they wanted to, but..... nuh uh.

I am far too curious to allow stuff to get past me like that. I want to know how things work. And how to fix them.

Psychologists tell us that women are quite willing to discuss problems and seem to care less about actually fixing them, while men prefer to fix problems and seem to care less about discussing them.

Men, in general, seem to have a different, and perhaps wider, range of curiosity than women, which may be why they die younger.

Joel Gray says that men are from Mars and women are from Venus. If you haven't read his book you're missing a treat.

I have to go to my cave, now, and fix something.

[Woody]

Well Mark. I'm glad I don't live in your household.

[Gerr]

You mean Blanche has the pants and you have the skirts?

Oh well, your exegesis has been suspect anyway.

[Woody]

I refuse to answer that question. Blanche just might be reading this post.

[Gail]

I don't know why women are discontented... Notwithstanding the results that we inherited from Eve's sin, our role of nurturing, support and child-rearing is a serious one, indeed! Mothers shape souls, they form the next generation. They hold the real power in this world!! :)

[teresaq]

Maybe the feminist movement have ignored the order presented by God in Eden...

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This injunction was not optional.

God gave it for a reason.

Of course feminism and "culture" seem to want to over-rule this and to even point to it will often raise cries of "sexism".

But God established this order in the home for a purpose.

If this is what feminism is attacking, then of course women will be unhappier.

Anything that goes against the will of God will cause unhappiness...

Mark :-)

[karl]

I am saying that women have something in them that resists God ordained authority.

They inherited that from Eve.

Because of that, God has decreed the order as stated in Eden.

Now I know of no other "order" ascribed by God in the bible?

There was the order in heaven that Lucifer refused to submit to.

There was the order in the Israelite camp that Korah, Dathan, and Abiram refused to submit to.

There was the headship of Moses that his bro and sis went against.

[Gail]

Is the reason women are so unhappy (and I say that as a woman who is NOT so unhappy) so simple as being unsubservient to her husband?

I should perhaps read the article... are we talking women in general in society or wives?

[Gail]

Okay- I've skimmed over the article so I now have a better idea of what was mentioned there.

It mentions that women are more burdened than ever, many having to balance child-rearing with career.

I agree- being a single parent is tough.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Maybe the feminist movement have ignored the order presented by God in Eden...

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This injunction was not optional.

God gave it for a reason.

Of course feminism and "culture" seem to want to over-rule this and to even point to it will often raise cries of "sexism".

But God established this order in the home for a purpose.

If this is what feminism is attacking, then of course women will be unhappier.

Anything that goes against the will of God will cause unhappiness...

Mark :-)

Male chauvenist xxx ...

Do you treat your servants very well? How about your oxen and your ass?

[Woody]

Quote:

Male chauvenist

Quote:

your ass

?????

[Gail]

I hope that Mark is not male chauvinistic!

There is something to be said, though, for men who really understand the blessing that God intended a godly man to be. I do know some. I really respect them.

I have known some of the other type, too. I don't wonder why some Christian marriages crumble.

[Gail]

Woody, I'm sure that my KJV would say it like that. Leave her alone on that one.

[Woody]

[Neil D]

I am saying that women have something in them that resists God ordained authority.

They inherited that from Eve.

[Gail]

Somehow for a time I got the feeling that neither men nor women were sure about just what we wanted or what the other gender wanted out of life.

[Neil D]

Somehow for a time I got the feeling that neither men nor women were sure about just what we wanted or what the other gender wanted out of life.

When you say "we", is that a reference to Adventists or to Christians or generally speaking...?

because generally speaking, I don't think most men know what being a man is all about.......Women already have a purpose...but what purpose is there for men, except to leave "thier mark on the world"?

[Gail]

Generally speaking

[teresaq]

Okay- I've skimmed over the article so I now have a better idea of what was mentioned there.

It mentions that women are more burdened than ever, many having to balance child-rearing with career.

I agree- being a single parent is tough.

yes, that is what i see, and even if they dont work outside of the home, theyre going from the time they get up, take the kids to school, do whatever but be available to pick them, take them whereever, and on and on. there is no appreciation, very little "recuperate" time, if any....

so looking for a way to blame the woman for the ills of society, for me, is right up there with blaming a rape victim for being raped, or a child for being molested or abused. sick.