teresaq Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: CoAspen Quote: It is not a matter of knowing "doctrine," but of knowing that Jesus Christ was/is "the Christ, the Son of the Living God." That would be the core value of the christians life or should be. If not, how can we be followers of Christ? Knowing doctrine or even following it accomplishes little with out the 'knowing'. Seems to be an avoidance of this and some rather 'picky' stuff about......Hmmmm? I agree, Coaspen. IMO, theology is all about knowing the "correct" doctrine. Amazingly, I have found very little talk about "Jesus Christ and Him crucified" among "theologians." It seems that so many Christians are more interested in being "right" than in knowing they have been forgiven by God for the sake of the doing and dying of Jesus Christ. Have they possibly lost their "first love"? I have no serious axe to grind about the passage in question. My problem is the manipulation of Scripture to suit one's personal agenda. This is rampant--not just in SDAism but--in Christendom as a whole. Jesus is clear that it is not about what you know, but about Whom you know. Quote: John 5:36 "I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and which I am doing, testifies that the Father has sent me. 37 And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, 38 nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. 39 You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life. There is no "life" in Bible study nor in the correct "interpretation" of the Scriptures. There is life only in Jesus Christ. And since He is the Meaning of Scripture, there is no greater or further or more profound Scriptural Truth we can know than Jesus Christ, our crucified and risen Savior. It is all about Jesus! Praise God for so great a salvation! very good points you make. but if one doesnt know that one doesnt know....therein lies the problem. Quote facebook. /teresa.quintero.790
DrPatti Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 Quote: Patti: There is no "life" in Bible study nor in the correct "interpretation" of the Scriptures. There is life only in Jesus Christ. And since He is the Meaning of Scripture, there is no greater or further or more profound Scriptural Truth we can know than Jesus Christ, our crucified and risen Savior. It is all about Jesus! Praise God for so great a salvation! very good points you make. but if one doesnt know that one doesnt know....therein lies the problem. Quote
oldsailor29 Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 There is no "life" in Bible study nor in the correct "interpretation" of the Scriptures. There is life only in Jesus Christ. And since He is the Meaning of Scripture, there is no greater or further or more profound Scriptural Truth we can know than Jesus Christ, our crucified and risen Savior. It is all about Jesus! Praise God for so great a salvation! Patti - I agree there is no life in most Bible study. But The study of the teachings of Jesus, and following those teachings are the ways we "eat His flesh and drink His blood." His teachings are the living bread, unlike the rest of the Bible. Quote Prs God, frm whm blssngs flw http://www.zoelifestyle.com/jmccall
Dr. Rich Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 If there is only "life is Jesus Christ" and not by studying the bible to know the truth, then what "life" do those have that were before the New Testament? Your opinion just does not hold water. Jesus did not come here to establish a new religion (Christianity) did He? Did not He say that He came ONLY to save the lost sheep of Israel? Please read Rev. 21:8 and 22:15. If we do not study the Bible and learn what Jesus said by the way of the eyewitnesses who wrote it down, then please tell me how is one to know the truth today? If you don't know the truth and therefore practice a lie, isn't that a little dangerious for your soul? Quote
Guest Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 If there is only "life is Jesus Christ" and not by studying the bible to know the truth, then what "life" do those have that were before the New Testament? Rich are you really unaware that Jesus existed in OT times also. Jesus is the creator of the universe. See John 1:1-3, and Eph 3:9 Quote
Dr. Rich Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Time to wake up Richard! Heeellllooooo! Michael was there before Jesus Christ. You keep forgetting the context. hang in there, someday you might "get it". Quote
Guest Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 I see you didn't bother to read the text I gave that tells you that Jesus created everything. And Michael IS Jesus.............bone head. Quote
Kountzer Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 .............bozo. Myyy goodness. Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass
Robert Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 bozo. Somebody needs to get a hold of you. I volunteer! Quote
Guest Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 I really wish you could. Was it hard for you to type those words? Quote
Moderators Nan Posted March 9, 2010 Moderators Posted March 9, 2010 If there is only "life is Jesus Christ" and not by studying the bible to know the truth, then what "life" do those have that were before the New Testament? Your opinion just does not hold water. Jesus did not come here to establish a new religion (Christianity) did He? Did not He say that He came ONLY to save the lost sheep of Israel? Please read Rev. 21:8 and 22:15. If we do not study the Bible and learn what Jesus said by the way of the eyewitnesses who wrote it down, then please tell me how is one to know the truth today? If you don't know the truth and therefore practice a lie, isn't that a little dangerious for your soul? I seem to remember Jesus saying "But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself". (John 12:32) Does "all" in this context not mean all? I can see nothing in this verse that would indicate He was referring only to "the lost sheep of Israel". Quote
Robert Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 I really wish you could. Was it hard for you to type those words? You are a [delete name-calling]. Quote
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