So why is it?

[Pickie Chickie]

LOOSE CHANGE

This documentary proves 911 was an inside job, that the three, yes three, World Trade Center buildings came down WITH assistance from carefully distributed explosives planted in advance. If you do NOT believe this is a fact, then you MUST watch this! You will be STUNNED!

[Pickie Chickie]

Excuse me. I suggest you watch the video entitled "Loose Change" I posted below rather than relying on a few seconds of video clips you saw played over and over and over and over and over again on TV!

Do you really think three buildings can come down in 13 seconds, at free fall rate? Think again. Watch the video below.

Our government is controlled by the people behind 911 and those people also control what is shown on the media.

Do you know that there is footage of a broadcaster speaking about the third building coming down BEFORE it fell?

Do you know it was in the background behind her? Do you know these reporters were given a script as to what to say but got it too soon and announced on TV the third building had collapsed before it actually had?

[Martus]

September 11 NY was orchestrated by the U. S. government.

This is no "theory" but a true conspiracy amongst others in time past as records show.

It's the 'broken record' effect to make one conditioned to believe by means of repetition. Hence the controlled media's spin of fact.

Jesus' crucifixion was also a "conspiracy". Nothing has changed, those in power will always 'conspire' to meet their means.

[SivartM]

Loose Change is... not the most intelligent production out there.

http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/introduction.html

http://emptv.com/research/loose-change

[SivartM]

I wish to direct everyone to the original question: how can otherwise intelligent and normal people believe this stuff?

I'm guessing they're bored and/or imbalanced. It probably stems from innate suspicion of everything and everyone.

[karl]

Originally Posted By: karl

"Normal" is just a setting on the washer and dryer. It doesn't exist, sociologically speaking.

In physicolgical terms, there is concidered an acceptable range, or "normal". The ph of blood is between 7.35 to 7.45. The Saturations of Oxygen in the blood is 96% but an acceptable range is anything above 89, hence 90 to 96 is a range of acceptable saturations.

Socialogically speaking, there are acceptable behaviors that are concidered normal. Examples, SDAs concider Sabbath an important day in thier culture. It is normal to invite people to ones home to eat and have social contact. What is not normal, is those behaviors that are outside expected behaviors.

Thoughts?

A brief perusal of what you posted above reveals your (or anyone's) inability to define "normal."

Can't be done satisfactorily. Different people have different behavioral expectations.

That which is usual and customary to one group of people may be unusual to others and, therefore, outside their "feel" for "normal."

How would you like it if Jeffrey Dahmer were given the responsibility of defining "normal" for the rest of us?

Usual and customary can, in fact, be abnormal as can be evidenced by the average food ingestion here in the south.

[Pickie Chickie]

How can people believe "this stuff"?

What is "this stuff"?

You haven't even given us any solid examples, nor has the person who started this thread, of what exactly you are referring to!

What stuff?

[karl]

To many, conspiracy theories are just a realistic cynicism regarding human nature. Not all people in this world are honest, hard working and forthcoming about their intentions. Certainly we can all agree on this. So how did the term “conspiracy theory” get grouped in with fiction, fantasy and folklore? Maybe that, in itself, is a conspiracy. Just kidding. Or am I?

Skeptics are important in achieving an objective view of reality. Skepticism is not the same as reinforcing the official storyline. In fact, a conspiracy theory can be argued as a necessary alternative to the official or “mainstream” story of events. Conspiracy theory can help to balance the way the party in power rewrites history to fit its plans and expectations.

If there is only one story possible, then going with the mainstream is sensible. If there is more than one story possible - and there almost always is - skepticism is a useful tool in ferreting out truth from the plethora of propaganda.

Galileo was a skeptic to the mainstream explanation. So was Luther.

And never forget that Jesus was the Victim of conspiracy.

[Pickie Chickie]

Have you watched Loose Change?

And, do you agree that 911 was an inside job or do you think the towers magically collapsed in 13 seconds because the fire melted the steel?

If you have watched it and don't agree that credible information can be learned about 911, what documentary do you suggest we all watch?

Please post the video!

[SivartM]

Have you watched Loose Change?

And, do you agree that 911 was an inside job or do you think the towers magically collapsed in 13 seconds because the fire melted the steel?

If you have watched it and don't agree that credible information can be learned about 911, what documentary do you suggest we all watch?

Please post the video!

No. I already read all the exposés, so I don't want to waste my time on something I know is inaccurate.

I don't believe either of those things. Towers don't magically collapse; that's absurd. They collapsed because the steel was weakened by the impact of a jet plane flying into it.

[Pickie Chickie]

I implore you to watch Loose Change.

[SivartM]

But... it's inaccurate. Actually, the producer said it was inaccurate.

http://www.oilempire.us/loose-change.html

[Pickie Chickie]

That web site was not published by the producer of the documentary "Loose Change".

Do yourself a favor and watch Loose Change then make your own decision after you watch it. It's not like you're going to end up possessed by demons!

Have an open mind! Don't base your opinion on what someone is saying on a website! Watch the actual video clips of the towers coming down that were obtained from witnesses which haven't been shown on TV!

I can't make you watch it but I will tell you that every single person who had the same opinion as you, who I asked to view Loose Change, that the towers fell because the steel weakened due to the jet fuel has CHANGED THEIR MIND without exception.

Also, how do you explain the third word trade center building, NUMBER SEVEN, collapsing when it did NOT get hit by a jet nor was there jet fuel burning inside it!

[SivartM]

Um... hello? Why don't you have an open mind and not base your opinion on what someone is saying in a documentary? Read actual scientific facts explained by experts that the proponents of the 9/11-conspiracy won't tell you!

I guess you didn't refer the people who watched Loose Change and then debunked it.

WTC 7 fell because it was on fire. Have you ever heard of other buildings collapsing because they were on fire?

[Pickie Chickie]

1 Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration

2 Improbable symmetry of debris distribution

3.Extremely rapid onset of destruction

4.Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes

5.Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

6.Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking

7.Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds

8.1200-foot-dia. debris field: no "pancaked" floors found

9.Isolated explosive ejections 20 – 40 stories below demolition front

10.Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame

11.Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises

12.Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples

13.Evidence of explosives found in dust samples

14.No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire

[SivartM]

Wow, the government did pretty shoddy work. You'd think they would have had a better plan.

Speak of which, why haven't they killed you yet for exposing them? I'm sure you have someone tracking your online activities.

[Pickie Chickie]

Is there an IGNORE feature? If you refuse to watch the documentary, that is your choice.

I don't think your attitude is suitable and I don't appreciate it one bit.

[SivartM]

Yes, not reading my posts if they are upsetting you. Your posts are apparently upsetting me, since I can't keep myself from replying to them. And I'm sorry if I offended you, but ignoring me won't get the government off your back for exposing their dastardly ways.

Perhaps you didn't notice, but hating America is sort of offensive to some people. I'm sorry that you believe such things, but there's really nothing more I can do.

[Pickie Chickie]

You are so sarcastic it's pathetic.

You accuse me of hating America?

You are a piece of work. I haven't posted here in a long time and you have totally ruined my experience here and I will no longer be participating in this forum.

You are a real jerk.

[SivartM]

I'm sorry.

[Woody]

Quote:

The KJV does mention the word "Easter", but it's a mistranslation of Pascha (aka. Passover in English). Most other bible translations (ie. NIV, NKJV, etc..) have corrected this mistranslation.

Christmas and Easter are both pagan holidays that were "Christianized" (by man, not God). The bible clearly tells us to not worship God the same way the pagans do (See Deuteronomy 12:29-31 and Leviticus 18:1-4). The dates, customs and most traditions of those holidays are completely pagan. Even casual research will verify this.

I'm not aware of any Pagans worshipping on Christmas nowadays. I think we as Christians pretty much own Dec. 25th now. But I could be wrong and if I am ... for certain others will correct me. :)

[jasd]

>>The KJV does mention the word "Easter", but it's a mistranslation of Pascha (aka. Passover in English). Most other bible translations (ie. NIV, NKJV, etc..) have corrected this mistranslation.<<

“Pascha” notwithstanding, isn’t there at least a bit of ambiguity to the texts of Acts 12: 3,4?—and that “Easter” is really the correct translation?

Acts 12:3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put [him] in prison, and delivered [him] to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

Nu 28:16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month [is] the passover of the LORD.

Nu 28:17 And in the fifteenth day of this month [is] the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.

>>Christmas and Easter are both pagan holidays that were "Christianized" (by man, not God).<<

But didn’t Gd tell us that the Sun, Moon, and stars were given to us for signs and seasons?—without proscription? Are signs and seasons made void simply because “pagans” also utilize those signs and seasons?

>>The bible clearly tells us to not worship God the same way the pagans do (See Deuteronomy 12:29-31 and Leviticus 18:1-4).<<

Wasn’t the injunction against becoming ‘ensnared’ by the “doings of the land of Canaan”?—and not to the observation of “signs and seasons”?

[phkrause]

SivartM I most say that you have made some really good points in all your posts. And definitely agree with you.

And to no one in particular: As far as the buildings collapsing in 13 seconds! When they finally collapsed it took 13 seconds, because of all the weight, but if you watched most of the day it took hours before the buildings actually did collapse! And the first building struck didn't collapse until after the second one collapsed first.

pk

[phkrause]

So why is it perfectly normal intelligent people fall for the stupidest conspiracy theories?

Stan look what you started!! LOL

pk

[GreatLakesGramma]

You are so sarcastic it's pathetic.

You accuse me of hating America?

You are a piece of work. I haven't posted here in a long time and you have totally ruined my experience here and I will no longer be participating in this forum.

You are a real jerk.

Pickie Chickie, if you can't handle people persisting in disagreeing with you, and are going to call somebody a jerk simply because he argues with you, then this forum isn't the place for you anyway.