Hospital For Sinners

[doug yowell]

[so Paul should have kept his mouth shut when Peter publicly acted hypocritically?

And Peter should have held his peace when Ananias & his wife came in with lies?

Has Woody answered your question yet?

[Gerr]

Originally Posted By: Gerry Cabalo

[so Paul should have kept his mouth shut when Peter publicly acted hypocritically?

And Peter should have held his peace when Ananias & his wife came in with lies?

Has Woody answered your question yet?

I think his EGW quotes are supposed to answer the question.

[Gerr]

Quote:

"We are not to deal out excommunications and denunciations to those who are faulty." Our Prophet in TM 47.1

Quote:

"Let them remember that, while they are watching and criticizing others, they are neglecting to put on the robe of Christ's righteousness.'" Our Porphet in PAMPHLETS/PH151

ESV | Ec 3:1,7 For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven:......a time to tear, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

"So men have argued, till policy has taken the place of faithfulness. Sin is allowed to go unrebuked. When will be heard once more in the church the voice of faithful rebuke, "Thou art the man"?" [sEE 2 SAM. 12:7.]

White, E. G. (1915; 2002). Gospel Workers (150). Review and Herald Publishing Association.

"Standing in conscious innocence before Ahab, Elijah makes no attempt to excuse himself or to flatter the king. Nor does he seek to evade the king’s wrath by the good news that the drought is almost over. He has no apology to offer. Indignant, and jealous for the honor of God, he casts back the imputation of Ahab, fearlessly declaring to the king that it is his sins, and the sins of his fathers, that have brought upon Israel this terrible calamity. "I have not troubled Israel," Elijah boldly asserts, "but thou, and thy father’s house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the Lord, and thou hast followed Baalim." {PK 140.1}

White, E. G. (1917; 2002). The Story of Prophets and Kings as Illustrated in the Capitvity and Restoration of Israel; Conflict of the Ages Series, Volume 2; Prophets and Kings (140). Pacific Press Publishing Association.

[Gerr]

"In the closing work of God in the earth, the standard of His law will be again exalted. False religion may prevail, [bEGIN P.187] iniquity may abound, the love of many may wax cold, the cross of Calvary may be lost sight of, and darkness, like the pall of death, may spread over the world; the whole force of the popular current may be turned against the truth; plot after plot may be formed to overthrow the people of God; but in the hour of greatest peril the God of Elijah will raise up human instrumentalities to bear a message that will not be silenced. In the populous cities of the land, and in the places where men have gone to the greatest lengths in speaking against the Most High, the voice of stern rebuke will be heard. Boldly will men of God’s appointment denounce the union of the church with the world. Earnestly will they call upon men and women to turn from the observance of a man-made institution to the observance of the true Sabbath."

White, E. G. (1917; 2002). The Story of Prophets and Kings as Illustrated in the Capitvity and Restoration of Israel; Conflict of the Ages Series, Volume 2; Prophets and Kings (186–187). Pacific Press Publishing Association.

[Woody]

Quote:

I think his EGW quotes are supposed to answer the question.

Why ... you don't appreciate the word of our prophet? I'll stand on them ANY day.

[Gerr]

As you can see, she also has something to say about rebuking.

[Woody]

Yes. She rebuked the rebuking. But then she IS the prophet. So, she can do that.

[John317]

The Third Angels Messages of Rev. 14 are messages that certainly include the rebuking of sin and sinners. It includes much more, but no one can study the Bible and the SOP without realizing that the Holy Spirit inspires people to rebuke sin.

Can anyone honestly picture the proclamation of the gospel under the power of the Latter Rain without any rebuking of sin?

People led by the Spirit of God aren't afraid to tell the truth for fear of making someone upset or offended. We shouldn't seek purposely to offend people but if the preaching of the true gospel and the Third Angels Message offends people, so be it. Better to offend some people for a short time and save people's eternal lives than make everyone happy and see them lost.

[Woody]

Oh. I agree with you John.

We are to rebuke sin no doubt.

But rebuking the sinner? No.

[Gerr]

Oh. I agree with you John.

We are to rebuke sin no doubt.

But rebuking the sinner? No.

Now, that I'd like to see how you can rebuke the sin without rebuking the sinner at the same time.

[Woody]

Originally Posted By: Woody

Oh. I agree with you John.

We are to rebuke sin no doubt.

But rebuking the sinner? No.

Now, that I'd like to see how you can rebuke the sin without rebuking the sinner at the same time.

Don't use names?

[Overaged]

no one can study the Bible and the SOP without realizing

Does anyone know what a "SOP" is?

[Woody]

Originally Posted By: John317

no one can study the Bible and the SOP without realizing

Does anyone know what a "SOP" is?

I think you may be confusing it wtih another SO ... of something else.

[CoAspen]

Standard Operating Procedure!!!!

[CoAspen]

Which is always check with the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY!!

[CoAspen]

SDA code words which suggest we may not be able to rely on the Bible only!!!

[Dr. Shane]

"We Don't Shoot Our Wounded"

That is how the thread started. That is a slogan often used in 12 Step groups. It means they don't beat people up because they went out and relapsed. Of course those coming back are not trying to justify their failure. 12 Steppers don't tell them it was or is ok to relapse. They point is, they welcome them back with open arms.

Now the court system does send people to 12-step groups that don't want to be there. When those people try to justify their addiction, 12-steppers normally tell them they are not ready to quit and need to go out and get some more misery. When they have had enough misery, they should come back in ready to admit they need help.