The Last End Of Time!

[Gibs]

Even though we are heading into times like as has never been seen or dreamed of in this old world it is a great time to be alive. Well really only if one be alive in Jesus/Yahshua and one of His subjects. His subjects of course being the ones that follow Him and only Him and have NOTHING in none other. These have no need of fear of what is coming upon the world now rapidly. Yes a time of trouble and hardship as very, very few have ever known or heard of. What we are seeing is the closing scenes of the reign of sin and the leading of Satan and the end of him being the “god” of this world, a position he usurped from Adam and is allowed to run it to the point of it’s maximum, sin and rebellion, showing as to just how fiercely terrible it can be. When it has reached that point, God will say it is enough and it will close and rapidly.

Da 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

We are living in the time all the prophets wanted to be and most thought it would be in their day and of course Daniel was shown different and was astounded that it was so far down the road when it was revealed to him.

There is no doubt the fear of it and worldly holdings and loss will be the death of many.

And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Lu 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Lu 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Lu 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Lu 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

What will His Glory be like? Like the following given with admonition to repent and come to Him.

2Pe 3:9 ¶ The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:11 ¶ Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Yes then nevertheless we look for it and for a new heaven and a new earth without the horrible blight and disease of sin, wherein dwelleth righteousness. A very solemn time but we who are of Him certainly do look forward to it but not desiring it as we are told.

Am 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

Am 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.

Am 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

All in that day not covered in His Pavilion, safe under His wings will not survive. None will be left alive.

Lu ;17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Lu 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Lu 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Lu 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Luke says “in that night” and also hear this “at midnight” -

Mt 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

Anyway it behooves the saints to be ready from here on out.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[miz3]

Since Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven people have been looking and expecting Him to come in their day.

What makes you think this time is any different? Many in the last 150-200 years have thought also their time was different and God still did not come in their day and time either.

So again, I ask, what makes our time, right now, different from any of these other times?

I have asked this question before and no one can tell me how today is different from even the 1850's, or the 1900's, or the 1930's, or the 1950's, or ......

It seems you get vague musings and signs that no longer apply, and signs that are just duplicates of things past.

So still yet again, I ask, How is today different so that we actually know for sure that this is the end and life will not go on for another 50years or more...........?

[BibleOnly]

Since Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven people have been looking and expecting Him to come in their day.

What makes you think this time is any different? Many in the last 150-200 years have thought also their time was different and God still did not come in their day and time either.

So again, I ask, what makes our time, right now, different from any of these other times?

I have asked this question before and no one can tell me how today is different from even the 1850's, or the 1900's, or the 1930's, or the 1950's, or ......

It seems you get vague musings and signs that no longer apply, and signs that are just duplicates of things past.

So still yet again, I ask, How is today different so that we actually know for sure that this is the end and life will not go on for another 50years or more...........?

The honest question is that we don't really know. We can look at the 'signs of the times' and mix them with an old man's determination that 'kids nowadays are out of control', but, all the bible says for sure, is that we should always be ready for Christ to return. Anyone who sets a date is a fool, as everything from the 'great disappointment' through to the guy who claimed it was last year, proves. But, it never does any harm to remind oneself that Jesus could return at any moment.

[Gibs]

I believe there is many sure signs that we are at the close and some of it is from prophecy but since there is as many views of prophecy almost as there is people who make any study of it I won't go that route.

Perilous times are upon us and there is no balm among the rulers of the world and the churches that are about to heal the trouble. Before 2012 is done we are going to be in this country and the same all over the world in dire need of means to live, food I think will be plentiful enough but so many people will not have money for it and heat and rent, gasoline and insurances car payments or house payments and doctor and hospital bills and many will not have insurance and is the case already.

Another thing to look at is the quality of food, the Gmo , the pesticides, the drugs used today, the vacinations, the abortions, gay rights, the hormones fed to cattle, chickens, the polution of the water supplies, the polution of the ocean and on and on. We will still eat some wild caught salmon from Alaska but not sure it is completly safe.

The clorine and flouride in your water, the power grids are near overload and the nuclear plants poluting and the waste of them and no way to make it harmless and the earth is fast becoming a large dump and places to make dumps now it is hard to find and refuse disposal is skyrocketing. We didn't need dumps years ago, now the whole world is dumping stuff so fast even the asleep see much trouble ahead on that one alone.

And you know the earth has just gotten this way in the last few years. It wasn't the earlier generations that were the destroyers of earth it has been the last couple. I used to go out and fish in the rivers locally and could make my living from the good and edible fish I could catch, but no more, they are not fit to eat as what you can catch swim around in water about as bad as water out of a sewer plant.

It has become the wonderful wonderul world of the usurper Satan as he is to have his day and it is at hand and he will appear before long now as Jesus Christ but the elect will not be deceived.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[BibleOnly]

Don't tell me you think vaccinations cause autism and fluoride causes people to become more docile ?

[Gibs]

Bibleonly,

LOL, sumpin like that. It seems to be the present ajenda.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Kevin H]

Since Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven people have been looking and expecting Him to come in their day.

What makes you think this time is any different? Many in the last 150-200 years have thought also their time was different and God still did not come in their day and time either.

So again, I ask, what makes our time, right now, different from any of these other times?

I have asked this question before and no one can tell me how today is different from even the 1850's, or the 1900's, or the 1930's, or the 1950's, or ......

It seems you get vague musings and signs that no longer apply, and signs that are just duplicates of things past.

So still yet again, I ask, How is today different so that we actually know for sure that this is the end and life will not go on for another 50years or more...........?

The poet-philosopher Eli Siegel pointed out that all beauty is a oneness of opposits. This is a very profound thought, and Miz3 you have asked a very powerful question! Fantastic job!!! What we are facing is a oneness of the opposits of as it has been, as in the days of Noah where people are doing everyday things, yet things that are different.

Jesus gives the condition for the second coming: When the Gospel is preached into all the world THEN shall the end come. Too often even the church has had sub messages that we spent our time on rather than really preaching the gospel (the popular one is the belief that the gospel is to give a history lesson about the cross, know the forensic view of the atomement and say the magic words so that God has to let you into heaven instead of roast you and toast you in hell).

God has a oneness of opposits of of as the stars in the vast and the idea that we can hasten that day, a oneness of God being in complete control, yet allowing for free will. God gives every generation the chance to either be the last generation or to at least prepare for their children or grandchildren to be the last generation.

Before giving the 10 commandmaments, in Exodus 19:5-6 it tells why God choose the Hebrews and why they were getting the law and why they were a special people. For them to be a nation of priests "FOR ALL THE WORLD IS MINE"

Deuteronomy 4 (and filled out in other places in the Bible) gives two possible prophecies for the Hebrews: One is to live in the land which was the center of the ancient world, where all the major trade routes junctioned, have God bless them, the heathen wonder why these "Athiests" were being so blessed by the gods, to be welcomed by then and told about the one true God who is not worshiped in idols. Nations would join them others reject them and this would eventually end up in the kingdom of God. In a nutshell "Stay in this land and the world will come to you to get the gospel" However if they were not faithful then God would send them curses to try to wake them up and if nothing else worked they would finally go into exile. In exile they were to share with their neighbors their unfaithfulness and God's faithfulness and many of their nighbors would accept the gospel and the exile was to be THE LAST DAYS!!! The Exile was suposed to end in a second great exodus lead by the Messiah. In a nutshell the exile theology is "Go ye into all the world and spread the gospel"

The Hebrews were not successful either in the land or the exile. We see Hezikiah's revival. This was a time that the world was spiritually hungry, and according to the book "Lies my Teacher Told me" their neighbors the Phoenians were sailing across not only the Mediterranean Sea, but also the Atlantic with some trade with the people of the land that would become America. This could have brought missionaries here, Hezikiah's revival could have ushered in the end. Hezikiah got ill, prayes and was well, and who became wicked king Mannasseh so we think that the message is "Shut up and do as you are told" but God wanted Hezikiah to pray and be healed. The Babylonian emmesaries came, had Hezikiah shared with them his true wealth, his God, the revival could have spread through out the world and it would not have been too many generations before good king Joshua was ruling. But instead of giving the gospel, Hezikiah showed his temporal wealth and instead of wanting to come and join Judah in worshiping God, they came back and took the temporal wealth and started ruling instead of good king Joshua, in place of Chirst, or in Greek "Anti-Christ"

Instead of the exile ending in a glorious second great exodus lead by the Messiah, it was a lack luster return with another 490 years of Deuteronomy 4's land theology (Intersting it was 490 years from David to the exile) where the Messiah will come and where he COULD have set up the kingdom. There was no need for a second coming. But we know what happened when Jesus came. So a return to Deuteronomy 4's exile theology of go ye into all the world.

Matthew 24, despite all the tapdancing we do, did tie the fall of Jerusalem to the Second Coming. But the church lost her first love. The Flavain emperors sounded like the little horn of Daneil 7 and if the church preached again could have been the last days (the world was spiritually hungry at this time, the church did not take advantage of it, the Buddists did and spread at this time)

Jerochin of Flore (spelling?) was giving guidance for how the Lord could come around 1260, which was not fulfilled but his message eventually evolved into Protestantism and both Dispensationalism (which is more of an off shoot based on his work) and Adventism (which is a more whole application of his principles) and the 1844 movement.

God does not mind hanging around with people who deal with great dissapointments.

On the other hand time has gone on. Events from Babylon, Medio-Persia, Greece, Rome, the Holy Roman Empire, the deadly wound (no great world empire) and now we are finding ourselves living in a time where there is instant communication, even way out in the isolated parts of the jungle and desert. We find the deady wound being healed by the nations uniting under econimic cooperation and 200 families that are owning the word (see the book "The Rich and the Superrich" people like Bill Gates are the richist of the rich, but noting compared to the superrich). We no longer have Republicans and Democrats, but globalist in both parties who are agreed on the goals, destroying our constitution and thise arguments are only a show they are putting on to make us think we have a choice and as they both herd us where they want us (while I tend to be a Democrat, Ron Paul is the only major candadate who is a constitutionalist rather than a globalist). Leaders are trying to change us from the American Republic and the Constitution to either make us like Europe before the French Revelution (the Religious right, people like Palen and Texas gov. Perry) or like Europe after the French Revelution (People like Al Franklen) Although trying to make us into Catholic Europe or French Revolution Catholic, they are both taking us away from the constitution and allowing the 200 familys of the superrich form a world empire that actually covers the entire world and can control every person's buying and selling and with mass communication. This is different from what we have ever faced before.

The US and China is squaring off in what could well lead to necular war. Revelation predicts that the 2 horned beast will win. We are headed in the direction that could lead to war with Iran and making the Muslims submit to this growing worldwide system.

YES we have Global warming, and we have in the middle of the Pacific an area larger than North America where plastic is getting together. Sea life that swim there are soon swiming in plastic instead of water, with lower oxigen and the sharpness of the molecular strucure and thus killing the life in the seas. Revelation predicts over and over again the scorching sun and life dieing in the seas. The globalists are hoping to not let this get out of hand but to allow this along with economic problems to lead to a great problem that we will all need to join the team to prevent destruction. But it will be too late. The 7 LAST (indicating that there are more than 7) are the 7 last steps of earth changing to where it is no longer able to support life, and when we reach that point Jesus will come... but Jesus is not waiting for global warming or for Rick Perry to become the world empire, he is waiting for us to share with the world who Jesus is. When the gospel is preached into all the world, then shall the end come.

[Gibs]

The TRUE SAVING GOSPEL to the world will go forth as it did after the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came down on them and they were Baptised of Him.

The truth of Salvation will not be preached to any great extent until again He, the Holy Spirit descends again on those He has ordained and then it will go with Power and will spread like wildfire as each is sent out to where to go and not to go and then each will be led to lay hands on another TRUE one and that one is Baptised of Him and so will go on muliplying as in the days of the Apostles.

No the truth of salvation is not preached but only by a very few at this time. Well what is the true Salvation Gospel then. It is faith based on truth. Faith based on presumption is not faith but is only presumption and that is what is mostly being preached today.

The statement "just believe and you are saved" runs much deeper than those few words imply. That was a statement to the Jews more for them to come, believe in your Redeemer, Jesus Christ is He. It was known to the Jews that the indwelling Spirit of God was their protection from Satan and his fallen ones from killing them and to give them mastery over the wiles, deceptions. But as today things have become way lax in that but a multiplication of the laws and that was their dwelling instead of recognizing Their Messiah.

Now when Jesus had some come to Him in the record of His Word and they repented and He forgave them and then what did He say? Go sin no more! What do you imagine that He told them to go do something beyond what they could do? No, He made it so each and everyone who comes and TRULY REPENTS is truly forgiven and then He can go and indwell in that one as their house has been emptied of other spirits dwelling there. But He cannot enter into that one unless ALL has been cast out.

This is a complete death of the old man, woman and the will given entirely nothing withheld to do His Will. Then that one becomes ONE in Him, their will is His Will and their love is His Love.

Now that one is dead to sin. Paul states it very, very well,

Ro 6:1 ¶ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Ro 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Ro 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Ro 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Ro 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Ro 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Ro 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Then Paul goes on to let the Gentiles know the secret, mystery, and that every man may be PERFECT he says,

Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

The fact is we are to be overcomers as He has made that very possible and only the overcomer will inherit the Kingdom Of God.

Yes there is a work for man to do and that is a work of faith, not presumption. That faith is based on the truth that Jesus Christ is true and faithful to forgive at TRUE REPENTANCE and then empowers us by His indwelling to be ONE with Him. Now those that are TRULY ONE in Him do have the only true Christian Unity that there is. All other unities of things is not Christ Unity.

That Latter Rain of His Spirit is coming and is falling on some around you now and it is not being seen. He is going to finish this thing of sins reign now soon and make the last call with much power from on high. He will save to the utermost all that will fully repent and be safe to take into His Kingdom that sin and rebellion of truth and love and righteousness will not ever rise up again. This must be embeded in the heart and soul now in this time all who will be in His Kingdom.

Today while it is still day is the day of Salvation, and He will not make you to do it, you must come to Him, fully surrender, fully repent and be dead of sin for evermore. That is the only way there is, the way He has made.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Gibs]

That True Gospel will be preached into all the world but it won't come to fruitition until those who are His are filled with His Spirit with the Latter rain from Him of His Spirit.

What claims to be His church are asleep and don't have the TRUTH of that message no more. It once was preached in the SDA church but no more.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Dr. Rich]

Gibs, the TRUE gospel is called "The Gospel of the Kindom of Heaven" and is the one Jesus came to the would to teach. It is clearly not the same as the gospel that Paul taught and admitted he made up because of visions or revelations he had and was not what the disciples were teaching.

Notice that the gospel to be preaced to all the world is the gospel of the kingdom of heaven. If you want to know what this is, it is the words of Jesus Christ and nothing more! It is NOT the words of Paul.

[miz3]

I am still waiting for a cogent answer to this:

Since Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven people have been looking and expecting Him to come in their day.

What makes you think this time is any different? Many in the last 150-200 years have thought also their time was different and God still did not come in their day and time either.

So again, I ask, what makes our time, right now, different from any of these other times?

I have asked this question before and no one can tell me how today is different from even the 1850's, or the 1900's, or the 1930's, or the 1950's, or ......

It seems you get vague musings and signs that no longer apply, and signs that are just duplicates of things past.

So still yet again, I ask, How is today different so that we actually know for sure that this is the end and life will not go on for another 50years or more...........?

How do we actually KNOW we are in the time of the end?

[Gibs]

This old world was to only go on for 6,000 yrs. if man feel to Satan and he did. Now I don't care how you do the math but that time is about up. Enoch stated 6,000 yrs. for it to go and the reign of sin would be over and those of you who hold EGW to be noteworthy she gave it that way too.

Here is a short one from her,

"Satan's work of ruin is forever ended. For six thousand years he has wrought his will, filling the earth with woe, and causing grief throughout the universe. The whole creation has groaned and travailed together in pain. Now God's creatures are forever delivered from his presence and temptations. {FLB 72.8}

It should be the aim of your life to fit yourself for association with the redeemed, with holy angels, and with Jesus, the world's Redeemer."

Personally I don't need her writings or Enochs as it is in the prophecy and will not go that route as none of you would agree. I am not a historic prophecy believer and to be so would be to say all the prophecies are fulfilled and that is not what I see. You will all see soon what the truth is and wonder why you didn't see it.

EGW or A T Jones didn't agree with U. Smith on the prophecy but U. S. was conference president and the editor of the Review and had his way. Well you all who are SDA's stand with U.S., that is fine you may do that.

If you would like one where EGW didn't agree with Smith try this one,

"In Revelation we read concerning Satan: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (Revelation 13:13-17). . . . {3SM 393.1}

Tell me did she believe the Beast then of Rev 13:11-18 to be the USA as Smith taught. Read the scripture there and you will see you cannot separate the context from verse 11 on. It hangs solid to the "he" of verse 11. Have fun!

Re 13:11 ¶ And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Re 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Re 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Re 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Re 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[phkrause]

Not that I disagree about the 6000 years, but for different reasons, Gibs. But where does Enoch say that???

[Gibs]

PK,

Doggone it, I have all the books of Enoch and I don't remember which book and passage now but he even goes further and states of the 1,000 after the 6,000 and that starting the 8,000 yrs. time will not be a consideration no more. If I get into his writings again soon and run onto it will let you know by a PM. Do you have his writings?

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[miz3]

I am still waiting for a cogent answer to this:

Originally Posted By: miz3

Since Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven people have been looking and expecting Him to come in their day.

What makes you think this time is any different? Many in the last 150-200 years have thought also their time was different and God still did not come in their day and time either.

So again, I ask, what makes our time, right now, different from any of these other times?

I have asked this question before and no one can tell me how today is different from even the 1850's, or the 1900's, or the 1930's, or the 1950's, or ......

It seems you get vague musings and signs that no longer apply, and signs that are just duplicates of things past.

So still yet again, I ask, How is today different so that we actually know for sure that this is the end and life will not go on for another 50years or more...........?

How do we actually KNOW we are in the time of the end?

I am still waiting for clear Biblical documentation. I thought SDA had this nailed down.

[phkrause]

No I don't. I have heard a pastor, who was doing a week long seminar at camp meeting, say that based on the thousand years for a day prophecies and Sabbatical system, that the earth would last about 6000 years from A&E to when Jesus comes, and than we will have the 1000 years in heaven while the earth rests. I thought that was kind of interesting. As we know the Jewish calendar is around year 5772, which he was mentioning is probably off by a few hundred years. And as he also mentioned we don't know if its off + or -, because obviously no one knows the real time Jesus' 2nd coming will be.

[Kevin H]

Originally Posted By: miz3

I am still waiting for a cogent answer to this:

I am still waiting for clear Biblical documentation. I thought SDA had this nailed down. [/quote']

No, SDA's are studying it based on history and the times that the last days cycled around in the past. A Jewish term for the future is the back side of God. Where we may not specifically see the future, but as we look at the past we can see principles that we will meet again in the future.

Deuteronomy 4 predicted that the exile would be the last days. But issues that were faced in more local applications in the past are starting to effect EVERY man, woman and child, which makes this time of the end different from the potential times of the end in the past

[miz3]

No, SDA's are studying it based on history and the times that the last days cycled around in the past. A Jewish term for the future is the back side of God. Where we may not specifically see the future, but as we look at the past we can see principles that we will meet again in the future.

Deuteronomy 4 predicted that the exile would be the last days. But issues that were faced in more local applications in the past are starting to effect EVERY man, woman and child, which makes this time of the end different from the potential times of the end in the past

The message from all those words is that in actual fact you, and everybody else do not actually know that we are in the "last days".

You are just guessing.

[Gibs]

Miz3,

Here's one without any interpretation for you,

Lu 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Lu 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Lu 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

Lu 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

Lu 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

All the genetically engineering today is maybe even further than it was in the days of Noah but I don't know but what they had actually become more advanced than today is one of the things to see we are right there. The things they are into on this order with animals and human beings and of course plants.

It is nothing but distruction, none of this GMO food is good for anyone, it is found to interfere with the DNA and to destroy the gut flora and soybeans is the worst and wheat corn oats sugar beets and the list is enormous.

We have many signs that no other generation has ever had.

The Jubilee calendar puts us into the first part of the year 2017 for the termination of the 6,000 years if you like math that one cannot be denied.

2Pe 3:3 ¶ Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

It won't continue much longer as time is about run out.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Woody]

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How do we actually KNOW we are in the time of the end?

The REAL question is - WHY does it matter to anyone.

I sure don't care.

We have our work to do for God. The work must be done now no matter when He chooses to come. When His coming is - simply does not matter and should not matter to Christians. We must be ready NOW. Don't look to the skies as an excuse to delay the work. Do it NOW.

[M. T. Cross]

If the Bible says no one but the Father knows the hour of his sons return is it not a little disrespectful to try and figure it out? Kinda like calling your God a liar. When a non Christian does that we are called all sorts of horrible things.

[Woody]

If the Bible says no one but the Father knows the hour of his sons return is it not a little disrespectful to try and figure it out? Kinda like calling your God a liar. When a non Christian does that we are called all sorts of horrible things.

Again EC - You are Right On Brother.

[Gibs]

EmptyCross,

We would be foolish to not heed the signs of the nearness of it and take what is given us to know that we are very close and to sound the warning as watchmen on the wall that the people be warned.

Eze 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

Where are the watchmen today? People need to get ready the Bridegroom is at the door so to speak. If the "house" needs cleaned and more "oil" for the lamps now id the time before it is too late, the hour really is late.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[M. T. Cross]

So acknowledge it might be tomorrow but also acknowledge that it may be another 50,000 years. Live life in harmony with what you are convinced is right and sacred. The divine gave us each this life as a gift! Not to be wasted fretting about when its all gonna end! It just seems like such a pitiful waste of such a precious gift.

[Woody]

Again EC - EXCELLENT