jamesonofthunder Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 "Have you seen the bloody sweat bedew the ground?” Preface; The biblical constant of Type and Anti-typical fulfillment is the greatest source of inspiration in how to interpret scripture. The Old Testament writers put in writing what God had shown them prophetically, and then the New Testament writers show how Christ Jesus fulfilled the prophecies. The biblical record attests to this... out of all the typological language used in scripture, such as sacrificial ceremonies, feasts, prophecies and so on, the one constant in the fabric of it all is Christ. In the symbols it is written just how God wants us to interpret it all. He translates His own heavenly language for our benefit. Jesus, after his resurrection, appeared to the two disheartened disciples on the road to Emmaus and said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself." (Luke 24; 25-27) Out of all of the symbolic ceremonies and prophetic language written in scripture, there has remained but few types left for man to attain the meaning of. Scripture itself proclaims in plain language that Jesus was, for example, the "lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world" which refers directly to the fulfillment of the 'Passover Lamb'. He also is the 'first fruits' of those from the dead, and the 'unleavened bread' or 'manna from heaven'. I hope you see were this is going. But in all of this imagery stands one sacrificial offering, which till now has had no special light given on the subject as to how it was fulfilled in the life of Christ. That image, that special sacrifice is the most mysterious in all of scripture; it's meaning eluding even the most brilliant of the minds of men for millennia; but no more. The purpose of this paper is to explain in detail how the spiritual death of Jesus fulfilled the sacrifice of the Red Heifer. I will attempt to show how Jesus of Nazareth not only died the physical death on the cross, but He died the death that we all deserve; the one after the judgment, the second death. Not only did He fulfill the sacrifice of the Red Heifer, it happened at the exact spot on earth that was prophesied through the symbol of the Red Heifer. Though this writing is for all believers in Christ, I will be using both scripture and inspired words from our last day prophet Mrs. Ellen G White to illustrate what our Father showed me in this vision. Go here for blog with illustrations http://redheifersbloodysweat.blogspot.com/2011/12/red-heifer.html “Have you followed him in the garden of Gethsemane? Have you seen the bloody sweat bedew the ground?” {RH July 12, 1892, par. 6} My name is James Tierney, a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, a brother in Christ. The evening of August 12th, 2009 was a perfectly beautiful night here in Elk River MN. There is this special place I love to go to pray, thinking on the closing hours of Christ’s life next to the lake I live near. Over the years I’ve had wonderfully insightful and peaceful experiences there, prompting me to go more and more until it was habit. But this was a special night; I felt a peace like no other surround me and the tokens of forgiveness were so strong I couldn’t resist. So I took a deep breath and bowed to pray. In my meditation that evening I was imagining Jesus coming into the Garden of Eden saying “Adam, where are you?” after Adam had betrayed Him by eating the forbidden fruit and was hiding. Then I imagined Holy angels leading Adam out of the gate east of Eden and show him what he had done to His creator because of this sin. The words of scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy help me to envision these things, and I remembered Ellen White wrote; “To Adam were revealed future important events, from his expulsion from Eden, to the Flood, and onward to the first advent of Christ upon the earth.” {SR 48.2} The angels revealed to him the plan of salvation, and encouraged him to participate, so he wouldn’t have to die that day as commanded; “in the day you eat of it you shall surely die”. “As Adam was slaying the innocent victim" on the first altar erected outside of Eden’s Eastern Gate, "it seemed to him that he was shedding the blood of the Son of God by his own hand…pointing to the great and perfect offering of God's dear Son. There appeared a star of hope to illuminate the dark and terrible future, and relieve it of its utter hopelessness and ruin.” {SR 50.2} I was next impressed to imagine Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane east of Jerusalem, as He "realized His separation from His Father in consequence of bearing man's sin” {2T 206.1}, which was another theme my mind had recently been drawn to prior to that night. The Holy Spirit attested to, and I fully realized; the angels that day had led Adam to have a 'Garden of Gethsemane experience' at the first altar outside the Eastern Gate of Eden. It also dawned on my heart that longing sympathy for Adam and his family is why Jesus loved to go, as His custom was, to the Garden of Gethsemane. I had no idea what else there was to learn from these images from scripture, but I could sense the still small voice urging me on in this line of thought, to go further in this mental picture. In support of the divine inspiration leading to this upcoming vision and subsequent study, recently I found this. “The garden of Eden with its foul blot of disobedience is to be carefully studied and compared with the garden of Gethsemane where the world’s Redeemer suffered superhuman agony when the sins of the whole world were rolled upon Him.” {Ms 1, 1892} I had never read that quote before, but felt drawn to these two subjects that night in 2009 as if lured in righteousness to find a deeper comprehension. A year later I found that perfect command by our prophet to prove that it is Gods will that we compare these two events. I can tell you, finding this quote made me so excited. While envisioning these two premises; Adam outside of Eden’s Eastern Gate and Jesus outside Jerusalem’s Eastern Gate, I was impressed that God wanted me to go further in this image. So I responded by praying, “Please Father, show me more”. Then immediately I had a vision… I was shown Jesus on His hands and knees in the Garden of Gethsemane, covered in bloody sweat, and simultaneously saw an all Red Heifer super imposed over Him. I was privileged to be shown by our Father that Jesus fulfilled the mysterious Red Heifer sacrifice in the Garden of Gethsemane. Every one of the commanded sacrificial offerings such as the Passover lamb, and the Atonement’s ‘goat for the Lord’, has major significance to help us peer into the life and ministry of Christ. What a wonderful experience, to be shown a forgotten sacrifice illuminating an added dimension to the complete knowledge of the plan of salvation. In the vision; Jesus was in a deep ravine, looking up and west towards Jerusalem’s Eastern Gate, in the same proximity of the first altar erected by Adam outside of Eden’s eastern gate. “Large blood drops were forced from his pores moistening the sods of Gethsemane,” {ST, 12/2/1897} and there was no immediate reply from the Father in answer to His prayers. The gates of heaven where closed to Him. He had left the heavenly city’s eastern gate to cross into the darkness of Hades; the place of the spiritually dead, to save me from my sinful nature. He was taking my part in the second death, with evil angels pressing the guilt of all my sins upon Him, with no help from the Father, Holy Spirit or heavenly angels, just as we would be if resurrected after the thousand years. This vision was so clear, I ran home to go online to see everything I could about the Red Heifer in Scriptures and the Spirit of Prophecy. I knew nothing on this subject except the name; which I had read in passing, with no comprehension of its fulfilled meaning. When I got home, while my computer was warming up, I turned on my TV to what I thought was the Seventh Day Adventist TV channel ‘3 ABN’, but turned out to be another Christian cable station, and to my total astonishment they where talking about the Red Heifer! I had never even heard a sermon about it before, and had never put any thought into the significance of this guilt offering/ cleansing ceremony, but all of the sudden I was surrounded by the Red Heifer image. It was so imposing and so significant. The program that day was a Judean-Christian organization, and although they helped in my knowledge historically, immediately in my heart God showed me they where wrong about their interpretation of the future. The temple does not need to be rebuilt and they do not need to find another Red Heifer, because it’s already been sacrificed in the Garden of Gethsemane. All I had been groomed for in my walk of faith was coming to a climax, warning and guiding my thoughts, leading me to perfect truth in answer to my prayer of faith. The scriptures at first glance have very little to say about the Red Heifer, but the Spirit of Prophecy shows where this message is hidden throughout scripture, expounding upon it, having a lot to say about her. This also fits with the ‘present truth’ element of this most mysterious of all the sacrificial offerings. Combined; there is less than half a page in scattered Scriptures about her, but several chapters in the Spirit of Prophecy. “Some may look upon this slaying of the (Red) heifer as a meaningless ceremony, but it was done by the command of God and bears a deep significance that has not lost its application to the present time.” {4T 122.1} (To save space; I ask all interested to search scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy to read what is available on the Red Heifer, and may God bless you.) At the Olive press “Fire I came to cast to the earth, and what will I if already it was kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how am I pressed till it may be completed!” (Luke 12: 49-50, Young’s Literal Translation) Major point of interest; the word ‘Gethsemane’ literally means ‘Olive Press’. (In Gethsemane) “The words fall tremblingly from the pale lips of Jesus, "O My Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, Thy will be done." He accepts His baptism of blood that through Him perishing millions may gain everlasting life. He has left the courts of heaven, where all is purity, happiness, and glory, to save the one lost sheep, the one world that has fallen by transgression. And He will not turn from His mission. He will become the propitiation of a race that has willed to sin. The Majesty of heaven was as one bewildered with agony. No human being could endure such suffering; but Christ had contemplated the struggle. He had said to His disciples, "I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it is accomplished!" Now is the "hour, and the power of darkness.” Manuscript 42, 1897. “This heifer was to be red without spot, which was a symbol of blood… He (Jesus) chose to exchange all the riches, honor, and glory of Heaven for the poverty of humanity, and his station of high command for the horrors of Gethsemane… He became a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief, that by his baptism of suffering and blood, he might purify and redeem a guilty world.”{RH, January 9, 1883 par. 4} There in the Garden my sins were placed on Him, and His righteousness on me. This scene caused me so much pain and shame, disgusted; I cried and wanted to die to self completely. Like Adam in his realization of being cast out of Eden, I was having a Garden of Gethsemane experience. It made me never want to sin again. Even in His torment, while cut off from communion with the Father, Jesus came to my side and comforted me with an overwhelming peace, just as he would have for the disciples had they been awake. He took my shame and gave me His mercy, so I could one day physically enter through the Eastern Gate of the New Jerusalem. Spiritually, from that place, my heart enters through the gates now. When our prayers are in complete harmony with the will of God, "then it is that Christ clothes the contrite suppliant with his own priestly vestments, and the human petitioner approaches the altar holding the holy censer, from which ascends the incense of the fragrance of the merit of Christ's righteousness.” {ST, June 18, 1896 par. 8} In the vision I was permitted to see what the disciples had slept through during His night of torment in Gethsemane. His mind became my mind for that moment and I could ask anything of Him right then. I realized I had to continually go there to confess every sin, to pray and empathize for Him and be sprinkled with His bloody sweat as it were; to be forgiven for and to hide from sin. ‘The psalmist, in his prayer, refers to this symbolic (red Heifer) ceremony when he says, "Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow." The blood of Christ is efficacious, but needs continually to be applied. If any have become selfish, and are withholding from the Lord that which they should cheerfully give to his service, then they need the blood of sprinkling thoroughly applied, consecrating them and all their possessions to God.’ {RH, January 9, 1883} But how do we acquire and apply it? Do you go to the store and buy it and sprinkle it upon yourself? Or do you go to where the blood was pressed out of Him in the Garden, where the disciples were asked to watch His torment unto prayer? Ezekiel 36:24-27 “For I will take you out of the nations… 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. “The body of the heifer was burned to ashes (Including the blood; very important!), which signified a whole and ample sacrifice. The ashes were then gathered up by a person uncontaminated by contact with the dead and placed in a vessel containing water from a running stream (clean water). This clean and pure person then took a cedar stick with scarlet cloth and a bunch of hyssop, and sprinkled the contents of the vessel upon the tent and the people assembled. This ceremony was repeated several times in order to be thorough and was done as purification from sin.” {4T 121.3} Gethsemane, was the only time recorded in scripture where Jesus asked for others to pray for Him because He could not hear the Fathers voice answer His own prayers. "When Jesus came to them (In Gethsemane), He found them still sleeping. Again He had felt a longing for companionship, for some words from His disciples which would bring relief, and break the spell of darkness that well-nigh overpowered Him. But their eyes were heavy; “neither knew they what to answer Him.” His presence aroused them. They saw His face marked with the bloody sweat of agony and they were filled with fear. His anguish of mind they could not understand. “His visage was so marred more than any man and His form more than the sons of men.” Isaiah 52:14. {DA 690.1} Notice here that the Spirit of Prophecy is equating this messianic prophecy, foretelling of Jesus tormented till His face was contorted, not with the terrible scourging by the Romans, or the torment of the cross, but with what He went through in Gethsemane. Next; that same prophetic text from Isaiah in verse 15 says, “So shall he sprinkle many nations…” The sprinkling we so desperately need and are looking for to cleanse us from sin occurs in the Garden of Gethsemane. Look at all of Isaiah 51 & 52, which amplifies this Gethsemane fulfillment by quotes such as Isaiah 51:3, “For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden and her desert like the garden of the LORD…”. The Garden of Eden/ and the Garden of Gethsemane. Again in Isaiah, 51:17 says “Awake, awake (sleeping disciples), stand up, O Jerusalem, which has drunk at the hand of the LORD the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out.” In fulfillment, Jesus said to His disciples in Matthew 20:23 “Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with”. This is the cup of the new and everlasting covenant that was symbolically offered to the disciples in the upper room before He entered the Garden to drink it. Over and over Isaiah talks of drinking the cup, first by Christ, then His people, then finally in Isaiah 51: 22-23 it is taken out of the hand of God’s people and given to “them that afflict thee”, unmixed with mercy. The ‘Sign of Jonah’ mystery explained! “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”-Matthew 12:40. With all of the controversy circling the interpretation of Matthew 12, it would be appropriate that we first see what the founders of our faith believed on this subject, to discern the truth. James White said; “The ‘earth’ in this case must mean the powers of earth, or the power and control of wicked men, and the Devil… Thus, Jesus was in the heart of the earth, or controlled and held by the powers of earth and hell, from the time that he was betrayed into the hands of sinners, until he arose from the dead, in triumph and victory. Jesus was as much in the heart of the earth when before Pilate, and on the cross, as he was while in Joseph’s tomb. With this view, all the Scripture testimony will harmonize.” {PTJW December, 1849, Art. 5, p. 39.5} In my vision I could see Him accept my sins, and they were what were causing His torment. He was being pressed by immense pressure, like Jonah in the belly of the great fish, at the bottom of the deepest ocean, and I was permitted to view this. The pressure was so immense that it forced “great drops of blood falling down to the ground.” (Luke 22:44) The evening of His last supper, when He left the Eastern Gate and crossed the Brook Kidron, begins the three days and three nights ‘sign of Jonah’. This comprehension gives a more perfect view of the spiritual and physical death that Jesus suffered. Only when counting the days from the time Jesus entered the Garden on Thursday evening does it come fully to three days and three nights. Perfectly fulfilled, this is the true understanding of the sign of Jonah. It is a sign showing the people who discover it and the world it is from God. Thursday Evening (Last supper/ Gethsemane) ~ Friday Morning; the first day Friday Evening (The Cross) ~ Saturday Morning; the Second day Saturday Evening (the tomb) ~ Sunday Morning; the third day When I later heard a sermon and learned that the name ‘Jonah’ means ‘Dove’, the Spirit of remembrance led my mind immediately to the Great Controversy, where it is said that in the Garden of Gethsemane after the messiah’s hour of torment, “a dove-like form overshadowed Him.” {DA 694.5} Just as it did at his baptism of water in the Jordan! I knew God had proven to me this great truth, Jesus had His baptism of fire (blood) in the Garden, and this begins the 3 days and nights. Hades; our second death “Christ felt the anguish which the sinner will feel when mercy shall no longer plead for the guilty race. It was the sense of sin, bringing the Father’s wrath upon Him as man’s substitute that made the cup He drank so bitter, and broke the heart of the Son of God. {DA 753.2} The second death that Jesus suffered doesn't mean Jesus died twice, it means He died the death that we will if resurrected outside of the Holy city after the thousand years of judgment. It would have been our second death if Jesus didn't do it for us. Just recently, I found the perfect sermon that illustrates this from Joe Crews, the founder of Amazing Facts. From his sermon and booklet; "The High cost of the cross". "The question is; how does Christ's death make it possible for Him to forgive sin? This brings us to the crux of all we have learned so far. It was necessary for Jesus to suffer the second death in order to acquire the power to forgive. The germ of all forgiveness is rooted in an act of substitution. Whoever forgives another person must actually substitute himself for the one he forgives, and be willing to suffer the consequences of the wrong done. For example, if I forgive someone a debt, I must be prepared to suffer the loss of the amount. If I forgive a blow, I must be willing to suffer the pain of it, without requiring the one who gave it to be punished. This illustration brings us very close to the heart of the atonement. The punishment for sin is not the first death, but the second death. That is why the protracted agony of Jesus on the cross was totally unlike any other death. Thousands of criminals were crucified in the same physical way that Christ was nailed to the cross, but they suffered only the bodily pain of the first death. He experienced the awful condemnation and separation from God that the vilest of sinners will feel in the lake of fire. His sensitive nature was traumatized by sharing vicariously the guilt of foul rapes, murders, and atrocities. He became sin in order to allow the full wrath of the law to fall upon Him in exactly the same way it would fall upon the lost. In no other way can we explain the mysterious anguish of spirit which surrounded our Savior in His closing hours of life. From the Garden of Gethsemane Jesus bore the accumulated sins of mankind on His breaking heart. Not one ray of light was permitted to penetrate the blanket of total alienation from His Father in heaven. In order to take the place of guilty sinners and to provide forgiveness there could be no difference in their penalty and His penalty. Let no one suggest that the Father did not suffer equally with His Son. The divine forbearance of God in allowing wicked men to torture His Son to death is the ultimate proof that He loves us with the same love that He loved Jesus. The choice He faced was very simple. He could spare the Son or He could spare us. There was no other choice. The law had been broken, the law which was holy and perfect. As a reflection of His character it could not be changed or destroyed. The penalty had to be paid. The Father loved those who had broken His law, but He also loved His Son." Regarding this second death that Christ suffered for us, Acts 2: 29; 35 says… “Brethren, concerning the patriarch David… he spoke concerning the rising again of the Christ, that his soul was not left to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption." This sermon of Peters was just seconds after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, which in itself is proof to the fact that it is an advanced understanding, or revelation in present truth. Peter was speaking with the same voice of the Holy Spirit originally prophesied through David and Joel. Notice that the soul of Jesus “was not left to Hades, NOR did His flesh see corruption”, two distinctly different phases of His death. Taken directly from Strong’s concordance we find; Hades; OUTLINE OF BIBLICAL USAGE; 1) name Hades or Pluto, the god of the lower regions 2) Orcus, the nether world, the realm of the dead. 3) Later use of this word: the grave, death, hell. According here to Strong’s concordance, the word Hades was not used for the word grave until after the bible was written! So “left to Hades” here must represent Christ before he went to the grave, left to being tormented by the god of this world, Hades, in the realm of the dead. He was suffering the Second death with the sins of the world upon His head, cut off from communion with His Father. The Next words in Acts, “NOR did His flesh see corruption” are the next phase in the Death of Christ; Corruption: ... 2) in the NT that destruction which is effected by the decay of the body after death. What Peter and David are prophesying here is; God the Father, would not leave Jesus the Son, outside of the Heavenly City suffering the second death in the land of the dead without communication with Him forever, nor would He let His body see decay or corruption during His stay in the grave. His body did not begin to stink. Jesus was ordained as High Priest by the hand of the Father in heaven at the moment. Why was Peter prompted by the Holy Spirit to quote this prophecy the very instant the Holy Spirit was poured out in strength on Pentecost? It is because this fulfillment is part of the sign of Jonah which leads to a more perfect understanding of the love of Christ and His Father for us. It shows us the path to heaven where He is even now. Since this was one of the first prophetic texts quoted by the Holy Spirit in the early rain, why would it not be connected to the latter rain message? The Valley of Jehoshaphat Peter there in Acts 2 also quotes an end time prophecy from the Old Testament book of Joel which states; Joel 2: 28 “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit…before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.” Peter, empowered by God, quoted that much of Joel chapter 2 in Acts on the day of Pentecost. But Joel 3 in verse 1 continues, "for behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel…” Obviously there is no need for pleading after probation closes, and since the main context of the second and third chapters of Joel are about the second coming of the Lord, this must refer to the time of the end before probation closes. “The Valley of Jehoshaphat” here described is the deep valley next to Jerusalem’s Eastern Gate. It was also called the Kidron Valley or valley of the shadow of death. There was also a bridge called the ‘bridge of the Red Heifer’ which crossed that valley from the eastern gate to the top of Mount of Olives. In the valley of Jehoshaphat under that bridge, was a terraced garden called Gethsemane. The Brook Kidron flowed from north of Jerusalem, around to the east and down that deep abyss called the Valley of Jehoshaphat, all the way south to the “dead sea” the lowest point on Earth, where Sodom and Gomorrah’s had been destroyed. Jeremiah 31:40 says “The whole valley where dead bodies and ashes are thrown, and all the terraces out to the Kidron Valley on the east as far as the corner of the Horse Gate, will be holy to the LORD. The city will never again be uprooted or demolished”. This spot, outside the Golden most glorious gate of Jerusalem on the east, will remain the holiest spot on earth that will remain when the earth is made new. It will remain forever! Jesus had to cross both the northern tip of that Valley, and the brook to get to Gethsemane. The brook is also called Kidron; meaning place of separation or darkness, the point of transference, where He had made up His mind and was carrying the weight of the world’s sins. He left the upper room after His last supper and said “now is the hour of darkness”, and then He crossed the brook called darkness by His own power and decision. When next He came back into Jerusalem, it was at the hands of sinners. No claim has been made that this gathering in the “valley of Jehoshaphat” has been ultimately fulfilled because the “great” day of the Lord has not come yet. There was a fulfillment in the time of Joel, it was fulfilled when Jesus was in Gethsemane, but the greatest part of that prophecy is attributed to His people. This is the message for the wicked and adulterous generation; the sign of Jonah. If this wicked generation will not gather with Him in the garden to place their sins upon His head, then they will literally stand in the valley of the shadow of death at the second resurrection with their own sins upon their own heads. They will sweat blood themselves when God frowns on them. We go there in prayer, imagining the event with everything we have been given so far, prayerfully asking the Father to have mercy on us for what we did to the heart of Christ, and to realize the anguish He still feels for us. “The day of the Lord” is an expression used by Joel as a time of divine retribution, imminent and present in his own day. But his prophetic eye also took in that great “day of the Lord” when the nations of earth are to assemble in “the valley of Jehoshaphat,” and where they will be destroyed by God's “mighty ones.” This is not the literal valley next to earthly Jerusalem, but world wide spiritually speaking. When the Lord comes in the clouds, and these angels destroy the wicked "with the brightness of His coming". For these awful times, the assurance is granted that “the Lord will be the hope of His people.” Joel 3:16. This prophecy closes with a picture of the peaceful scenes of the new earth, when God's people, cleansed and purified, shall “dwell forever … from generation to generation.” Serpent on a pole After receiving the vision so many previously unanswered questions have been solved in my mind that I am in complete awe. Example; I never knew why it was a serpent raised on the pole by Moses in the wilderness to save the people. Now I know… Jesus became ‘sin for us’, taking on the sin of the world, in Gethsemane. Then it was possible for Him to die on the cross, because He could not have even been touched by the devices of evil men before taking on our sins. He would have lived forever, because the wages of sin is death, and He hadn’t sinned. After receiving our sins He then carried them to the cross, thus He was symbolized as a serpent "raised" on a pole in the wilderness. “We can have but faint conceptions of the inexpressible anguish of God's dear Son in Gethsemane, as He realized His separation from His Father in consequence of bearing man's sin He became sin for the fallen race. The sense of the withdrawal of His Father's love pressed from His anguished soul these mournful words: "My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death." "If it be possible, let this cup pass from Me." Then with entire submission to His Father's will, He adds: "Nevertheless not as I will, but as Thou wilt." Testimonies for the Church Volume Two (1868-1871), page 206, paragraph 1 The Bridge of the Red Heifer In Mrs. White’s very first vision she wrote; “While I was praying at the family altar, the Holy Ghost fell upon me, and I seemed to be rising higher and higher, far above the dark world. I turned to look for the Advent people in the world, but could not find them, when a voice said to me, "Look again, and look a little higher." At this I raised my eyes, and saw a straight and narrow path, cast up high above the world. On this path the Advent people were traveling to the city, which was at the farther end of the path. They had a bright light set up behind them at the beginning of the path, which an angel told me was the "midnight cry." This light shone all along the path, and gave light for their feet; so that they might not stumble…They heard the voice of God tell them the day and the hour… The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spoke the time, He poured upon us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God, as Moses' did when he came down from Mount Sinai.” {EW 14.1} Notice how the 144,000 in this image are connected to the path high and lifted up heading to the city, and also how this message is connected to the loud cry? Please always remember that the Altar of the Red Heifer was called the Miphkad altar, meaning “the place of numbering”. The path that is ‘cast high above the world” IS THE BRIDGE OF THE RED HEIFER. I know this because God has given it to me to proclaim it. This message is “the repairing of the breach”. At the ‘foundation' of the bridge of the Red Heifer, on the east side of the Brook Kedron is the Garden of Gethsemane where our LORD was “cut off, but not for Himself”, {Daniel 9:26} dying the second death for us. The valley that the bridge crossed is called The Kidron, Kedron or Cedron valley, also known as the ‘valley of the shadow of death’ and the ‘Valley of Jehoshaphat’. This bridge was the same bridge that the Scapegoat was led by the ‘strong man’ to the wilderness of forgetfulness. Mrs. White said the strong man represents the 144,000. But it is not only the Bridge that is significant in this discovery. At the end of the Bridge of the Red Heifer were an altar and a laver. Located “Outside the camp” it was the only altar outside of the Holy precinct. “On that very spot!” C.H. Spurgeon the renowned Baptist reformer who was called the “prince of Preachers” and quoted from many times by Mrs. Ellen White wrote six in-depth sermons on the subject of the Garden of Gethsemane which I had never read until two years after the vision. Here is a sample of Spurgeon’s sermon recorded in The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, number 493. “And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground” (Luke 22:44). “We believe, then, that Christ did really sweat blood…If you will notice, he not only sweats blood, but it was in great drops; the blood coagulated, and formed large masses. I cannot better express what is meant than by the word ‘gouts’ – big, heavy drops…when it is said ‘falling to the ground’ – it shows their copiousness, so that they not only stood upon the surface and were sucked up by his garments till he became like the red heifer which was slaughtered on that very spot, but the drops fell to the ground. Here he stands unrivaled. He was a man in good health, only about thirty years of age…but the mental pressure…so forced his frame to an unnatural excitement that his pores sent forth great drops of blood which fell to the ground”. This sermon was wonderful to discover in my studies because it solidly proved to my heart that the vision was of no private interpretation because of the connection between the Red Heifer and Gethsemane that Pastor Spurgeon related. The fact that he said Jesus became “like the Red Heifer which was slaughtered on that very spot” in Gethsemane was total vindication against those who deny the vision. Next to this altar on the top of Mt. Olivet is where Jesus cried as He came to Jerusalem on the donkey’s colt during His triumphal entry and where also He ascended to heaven. “We have an altar… outside the camp” Hebrews 13:10-13 “We have an altar from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat. The high priest carries the blood… into the Most Holy Place as a sin offering, but the bodies are burned outside the camp. And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore.” The Miphkad altar on the Mount Olives (see illustration) is the only Altar outside the “gate” of Jerusalem used for any part of the temple service. Not only is it where the Red Heifer was sacrificed, it was where the body of the goat for the Lord in the atonement and all unburned sacrifices was burned. This altar is also on the same spot as the gate to the Garden of Gethsemane which is just down the hill from the altar. When the priest flung the blood of the Red Heifer in the direction of the temple seven times (see; atonement) the blood would land on Gethsemane just as Jesus’ blood landed there that night. The Jewish record also states that this sacrifice only occurred SEVEN times in the history of Israel, the last time being in 70AD just before the Romans destroyed both Jerusalem and the Bridge of the Red Heifer. This can’t be coincidence. The priest flung the blood seven times towards the temple, equivocally their where seven times that the sacrifice took place! The last time the Red Heifer was sacrificed in 70 AD didn’t count because the seventh was literally Jesus in the Garden who was the seventh PERFECT sacrifice. When they continued to sacrifice God put an end to it by letting Rome destroy them. “Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore.” This is what I experienced. I met with Jesus in the Garden to witness what the disciples slumbered or slept through. I witnessed my sins being transferred to the mind of Christ and His righteousness transferred to me. I experienced the Propitiation. Then He took my sins to the cross to die with them. Why else would Paul say to go to Him outside the camp and bear His disgrace after He had already ascended to heaven? "At the altar of self-sacrifice, the appointed place of meeting between God and the soul, we receive from the hand of God the celestial torch which searches the heart, revealing the need of an abiding Christ".--Review and Herald, Jan. 31, 1907. The Miphkad Altar is His ‘altar of self sacrifice’ where Jesus sacrificed Himself and took our sins on Himself. He became sin by entering into our hearts in the Garden. “…Separation from His Father, the punishment for transgression and sin, was to fall upon Him in order to magnify God's law and testify to its immutability. And this was to settle forever the controversy between the Prince of God and Satan in regard to the changeless character of that law”. EGW (2nd death) The secret spring of the water of life Mrs. White had a dream about a secret spring of water that flowed from the bottom of a stream that was crossed by a bridge. She doesn’t mention where this bridge is, or give it a name as if it is supposed to be discovered by inspired believers who, like her, would be led to it. This spring had “Living Water” that flowed from it, as she entitled the dream… ‘Living Water’; “…as we walked on, we came to a bridge over a stream of water, when he abruptly left me and plunged out of sight into the water. I was frightened; but he soon arose, holding in his hand a glass of sparkling water. He drank it, saying, "This water cures all manner of diseases." He plunged in again out of sight, brought up another glass of clear water, and as he held it up repeated the same words. I felt sad that he did not offer me some of the water. He said: "There is a secret spring in the bottom of this river which cures all manner of diseases, all who obtain it must plunge at a venture, no one can obtain it for another, each must plunge for it himself." As he drank the glass of water, I looked at his countenance. His complexion was fair and natural. He seemed to possess health and vigor. When I awoke, all my fears were dispelled…” CET Pg. 125 Well friends if this water is so important why would she not tell us where it is or even the name of the bridge or stream? It is obvious that a very important message is connected to this overlooked dream of hers and I know I have been led to discover it “…for the Lamb in the midst of the throne will be their shepherd, and He will guide them to springs of living water…" Revelation 7:17. The Prophets Jeremiah and Zechariah both prophesied about the ‘Living Water’ being the word of the LORD, but there are only TWO places in scripture that Jesus spoke directly about the living water. The first when He was talking to the Samarian woman at the well, and the last time was at the feast of tabernacles in His last year of earthly ministry. This quote from the Spirit of Prophecy mentions both of these incidents AND talks about the brook where the spring of healing water is. It’s in the chapter called…‘The Feast of Tabernacles’… “The feast lasted one week, and during all that time the temple was a festal scene of great rejoicing. There was the pomp of the sacrificial ceremonies; and the sound of music, mingled with hosannas, made the place jubilant. At the first dawn of day, the priests sounded a long, shrill blast upon their silver trumpets; and the answering trumpets, and the glad shouts of the people from their booths, echoing over hill and valley, welcomed the festal day. Then the priest dipped from the flowing waters of the Kedron a flagon of water, and, lifting it on high, while the trumpets were sounding, he ascended the broad steps of the temple, keeping time with the music with slow and measured tread, chanting meanwhile: "Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem!" He bore the flagon to the altar which occupied a central position in the temple court. Here were two silver basins, with a priest standing at each one. The flagon of water was poured into one basin, and a flagon of wine into the other; and the contents of both flowed into a pipe which communicated with the Kedron, and was conducted to the Dead Sea. This display of the consecrated water represented the fountain that flowed from the rock to refresh the Hebrews in the wilderness. Then the jubilant strains rang forth: "The Lord Jehovah is my strength and song;" "therefore with joy shall we draw water out of the wells of salvation!"… The feast was drawing to a close. The morning of the last, crowning day found the people wearied from the long season of festivity. Suddenly Jesus lifted up his voice in tones that rang through the courts of the temple: "If any man thirst let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." The condition of the people made this appeal very forcible. They had been engaged in a continued scene of pomp and festivity, their eyes had been dazzled with light and color, and their ears regaled with the richest music; but there had been nothing to meet the wants of the spirit, nothing to satisfy the thirst of the soul for that which perishes not. Jesus invited them to come and drink of the fountain of life, of that which should be in them a well of water springing up into everlasting life.” The priest had that morning performed the imposing ceremony which represented the smiting of the rock in the wilderness and the issuing there from of the water. That rock was a figure of Christ. His words were the water of life. As Jesus spoke thus to the people, their hearts thrilled with a strange awe, and many were ready to exclaim, with the woman of Samaria, "Give me of this water, that I thirst not." {Spirit of Prophecy Vol. 2 345-6} The Brook Kedron is where the waters where taken from and re-deposited, mingled with the wine through the silver pipe. The priest had to exit and enter the Eastern Gate of Jerusalem to get to the place where the water was taken from the Brook. This same place where the water was taken is the exact same spot Jesus crossed the Brook Kedron to enter into the Garden of Gethsemane, which was immediately beneath the bridge called ‘The Bridge of the Red Heifer’. The bridge Mrs. White had the dream about where the spring of living water flowed is also the Bridge of the Red Heifer. We need to see the messages connected to Gethsemane and the Red Heifer to discover the living water, and then we can sing "The Lord Jehovah is my strength and song;" "therefore with joy shall we draw water out of the wells of salvation!" as they did at the feast of Tabernacles. “Jesus with his disciples now left the upper chamber, and crossed the brook Kedron. Sorrow and anguish again pressed heavily upon his heart…It was not a dread of the physical suffering he was soon to endure that brought this agony upon the Son of God. He was enduring the penalty of man's transgression and shuddering beneath the Father's frown. He must not call his divinity to his aid, but as a man, he must bear the consequences of man's sin and the Creator's displeasure toward his disobedient subjects. As he felt his unity with the Father broken up, he feared that his human nature would be unable to endure the coming conflict with the prince of the power of darkness; and in that case the human race would be irrecoverably lost, Satan would be victor, and the earth would be his kingdom. The sins of the world weighed heavily upon the Savior, and bowed him to the earth; and the Father's anger in consequence of that sin seemed crushing out his life… Having made the decision and reached the final crisis, he fell in a dying condition to the earth from which he had partially risen. Where now were his disciples, to place their hands tenderly beneath the head of their fainting Master, and bathe that brow, marred indeed more than the sons of men? The Savior trod the winepress alone, and of all the people there was none with him. And yet he was not alone. He had said, "I and my Father are one." God suffered with his Son. Man cannot comprehend the sacrifice made by the infinite God in giving up his Son to reproach, agony, and death. This is the evidence of the Father's boundless love to man…The angels who did Christ's will in Heaven were anxious to comfort him; but it was beyond their power to alleviate his sorrow. They had never felt the sins of a ruined world, and they beheld with astonishment the object of their adoration subject to a grief beyond all expression. Though the disciples had failed to sympathize with their Lord in the trying hour of his conflict, all Heaven was full of sympathy and waiting the result with painful interest. When it was finally determined, an angel was sent from the throne of God to minister unto the stricken Redeemer… The disciples were suddenly aroused from their slumber by a bright light shining upon and around the Son of God. They started up in amazement, and beheld a heavenly being, clothed in garments of light, bending over their prostrate Master. With his right hand he lifted the head of the divine sufferer upon his bosom, and with his left hand he pointed toward Heaven. His voice was like the sweetest music, as he uttered soothing words presenting to the mind of Christ the grand results of the victory he had gained over the strong and wily foe. Christ was victor over Satan; and, as the result of his triumph, millions were to be victors with him in his glorified kingdom. {5Red 21.1} Wait a minute? It was in Gethsemane that Jesus had won the battle over Satan? Praise God. The Spirit of Prophecy says Jesus “accepted His baptism of Blood” in Gethsemane and the sign of the Dove overshadowed Him immediately after that terrible hour just as it had at His Baptism of water in the Jordan. Two Baptisms Matthew 3:11(ESV)"I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. As seen in ‘the Feast of Tabernacles’ there was a basin for water and for wine and they joined together through a silver pipe, mingled together both flowed back into the Kidron. These both represent the two baptisms of Jesus, the baptism of water at the Jordan and His baptism of blood in Gethsemane. 1 John 5: 5Who is he that overcomes the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. Again In Luke 12:49 Jesus said "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed!” Would this not imply that the Baptism Jesus had to go through has something to do with the “FIRE” that every true believer and Adventist Pastor has been praying for? The lessons learned in Gethsemane where SO IMPORTANT that just before He ascended to heaven He repeated them to His disciples as described here… “They crossed the Kedron, and approached Gethsemane. Here Jesus paused, that his disciples might call to mind the lessons he had given them while on his way to the garden on the night of his great agony. He looked again upon the vine which he had then used as a symbol to represent the union of his church with himself and his Father; and he refreshed the memory of his followers by repeating the impressive truths which he had then illustrated to them. Reminders of the unrequited love of Jesus were all around him; even the disciples walking by his side, who were so dear to his heart, had, in the hour of his humiliation, when he most needed their sympathy and comfort, reproached and forsaken him… At length the little company reaches the Mount of Olives. This place had been peculiarly hallowed by the presence of Jesus while he bore the nature of man. It was consecrated by his prayers and tears. When he had ridden into Jerusalem, just prior to his trial, the steeps of Olivet had echoed the joyous shouts of the triumphant multitude. On its sloping descent was Bethany, where he had often found repose at the house of Lazarus. At the foot of the mount was the garden of Gethsemane, where he had agonized alone, and moistened the sod with his blood. {3SP 250.3} What is the ‘Garden of Gethsemane Experience’? Rebuilding the Temple! The Temple could not be rebuilt unless God gave the sign of the birth of an all red heifer. (This is why those who want to rebuild the earthly Jerusalem temple are looking for an all red heifer as a sign to rebuild it.) Then the people could be cleansed and begin the construction. We are now being rebuilt into the temple of God. 1 Peter 2:5 “ye also, as living stones, are built up a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” This Red Heifer message gives us the sanctifying influence that will bring the true remnant together. It points us to the water of life. It is the Baptism of blood, the cup of the new and everlasting covenant. This propitiation is exactly like the Old Testament sacrificial system. First you would bring the sacrifice to the eastern vale of the temple place your hands on the head of the sacrifice and confess your sins; which is the garden, THEN you cut the throat; which is His death on the cross. I pray that others will experience the vision of seeing Jesus die the second death for their sins in the Garden. To “watch” His suffering like He’s right there and your confessed sins are placed on His head. He did it willingly even though He could not see past it. It is then that He carries the sins to the cross and dies with them. “Could mortals have viewed the amazement of the angelic host as in silent grief they watched the Father separating His beams of light, love, and glory from His beloved Son, they would better understand how offensive in His sight sin is”. {DA 693.2} “It is a fearful thing for the unrepentant sinner to fall into the hands of the living God. This is proved by the history of the destruction of the old world by a flood, by the record of the fire which fell from heaven and destroyed the inhabitants of Sodom. But never was this proved to so great an extent as in the agony of Christ, the Son of the infinite God, when He bore the wrath of God for a sinful world. It was in consequence of sin, the transgression of God's law, that the Garden of Gethsemane has become pre-eminently the place of suffering to a sinful world. No sorrow, no agony, can measure with that which was endured by the Son of God.” Gethsemane “Terrible was the temptation to let the human race bear the consequences of its own guilt, while He stood innocent before God. If He could only know that His disciples understood and appreciated this, He would be strengthened. {DA 687.3} Can anyone remember the last time someone told you to pray for the pain Jesus feels for the ugliness in this world? He FEELS our pain because He dwells IN us when we accept Him. “Christ in us the Hope of glory”. If understanding and appreciating Christ’s suffering was the longing of His soul then, why would it not be now? Christ in the Garden of Affliction at His hour of darkness was the spark plug of Christianity; it’s what turned Jesus into the serpent that was raised on the pole in the wilderness. It’s the moment, or point of propitiation, transference of our sins upon His head. It’s where Christ walks in our shoes before the wrath of God, as if resurrected in the second resurrection in our place. Without the penalty; separation from the Father, it would have been impossible for Jesus to die! He would have lived forever because He had not sinned. This is so important. It’s changing my life. I see things through His eyes now. I still sometimes fail, but the process is definite and clearly definable. Every time I sin my mind is taken through the process of envisioning Jesus receiving and dying with my sins, from the garden to the cross. It makes you never want to sin again and empowers you to receive forgiveness very powerfully. It becomes more personal. Drink the Cup Mark 10:38 (ESV) “Jesus said to them, "You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?" 39And they said to him, "We are able." And Jesus said to them, "The cup that I drink you will drink, and with the baptism with which I am baptized, you will be baptized.” In a limited sense we MUST drink the cup and be baptized with the baptism that Jesus was baptized in Gethsemane here and now. But the Holy Sprit totally agrees it is not the drinking of the cup unmingled with mercy as the wicked will drink (Rev 14:10). It is drinking the cup or living in the experience that Jesus drank, living in His life experience with His mercy. This is how we who embrace the message will drink the cup, not without mercy like those outside in Hades at the second resurrection will drink it. Do you see? “Hear that agonized prayer of Christ in the garden of Gethsemane!” {ST, December 2, 1897 par. 7} The Garden of Gethsemane experience is waking up and seeing the significance of Jesus being cut off from the Father. This separation was and is ‘the fear OF the Lord’. He feared being cut off from the Father but more so for the loss of our connection with the Father and lives with Him. He wants us to live and has made the perfect path for us to follow for our salvation, we need to see this. We need to envision and empathize with Jesus for the suffering He went through, starting from the Garden all the way to the resurrection, realizing that He’s still pleading for us even today. “Christ has directed the church by his own example, to the source of their strength in times of need, distress and peril. The attitude of watching is to designate the church as God's people indeed. By this sign the waiting ones are distinguished from the world and show that they are pilgrims and strangers upon the earth… This important night-watch should have been signalized by noble mental struggles and prayers which would have brought them strength to witness the terrible agony of the Son of God. It would have prepared them, as they should behold his sufferings upon the cross, to understand something of the nature of the overpowering anguish which he endured in the garden of Gethsemane…. He was bearing the griefs of others, for on him was laid the iniquities of us all. Through divine sympathy he connects himself to man, and submits as the representative of the race to be treated as a transgressor. He looks into the abyss of woe opened for us by our sins, and proposes to bridge the gulf with his own person. Those who cannot see the force of the sacred claims of God's law cannot have a clear and definite understanding of the atonement. {ST, August 14, 1879 par. 10} What is it we are to be “watching”? “When they should be watching, they are asleep. “Watch ye, therefore; for ye know not when the Master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning; lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping." The church of God is required to fulfill her night-watch, however perilous, and whether long or short. Sorrow is no excuse for her to be less watchful. Tribulation should not lead to carelessness, but to double vigilance.” {ST, August 14, 1879 par. 10} "I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me." The watchmen are to live very near to God, where they can hear his word and be impressed by his Spirit, which the people may not look to them in vain. "When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul." {RH, April 15, 1902 par. 13} John 10:1"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3The watchman opens the gate for Him and the sheep listen to His voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." 6Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them..." 27 "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me." “Rising with painful effort, He staggered to the place where He had left His companions. But He "findeth them asleep." Had He found them praying, He would have been relieved. Had they been seeking refuge in God, that satanic agencies might not prevail over them, He would have been comforted by their steadfast faith. But they had not heeded the repeated warning, "Watch and pray." At first they had been much troubled to see their Master, usually so calm and dignified, wrestling with a sorrow that was beyond comprehension. They had prayed as they heard the strong cries of the sufferer. They did not intend to forsake their Lord, but they seemed paralyzed by a stupor which they might have shaken off if they had continued pleading with God. They did not realize the necessity of watchfulness and earnest prayer in order to withstand temptation. {DA 688.1} The sealing In the service of the Red Heifer, which had to be endured if you had touched the dead otherwise you couldn’t take part in the Atonement; after the 7 day cleansing, “a sign was put over your families tent which read ‘I am not my own, Lord I am thine’ {RH, January 9, 1883 par. 9}”. How perfect to illustrate that the Red Heifer cleansing has to be part of the sealing. As in the cleansing service a sign was applied above the dwelling place of the cleansed, we need to receive the seal of God in our foreheads—“it is not any seal or mark that can be seen, but a settling into the truth, both intellectually and spiritually, so we cannot be moved.” {Mar 200.1} Shouldn’t we find out how this is to be done in our walk of faith? Obviously we don’t look for a literal Red Heifer, but instead look to Jesus to see how it is to be fulfilled in our lives. As the Spirit of Prophecy states, “Some may look upon this slaying of the heifer as a meaningless ceremony, but it was done by the command of God and bears a deep significance that has not lost its application to the present time.” {4T 122.1} Jesus was the Red Heifer in Gethsemane. This is a significant element of information that is essential to “settling into the truth”. But what of the sleeping church? Another mystery explained; the parable of the ten virgins in Matthew 25:5 has been translated this way… “While the Bridegroom tarried they all slumbered and slept” and I have often wondered why they are all depicted as sleeping but then 5 of them awake with enough oil? So I did a word study. • The word used for ‘slumbered’ is nustazó. This word can also be translated “got drowsy”. • The word that is here translated ‘and’ is the Greek word ‘kai’ which can also be translated ‘also, and, both, but, even, for, if, so’. But it is also translated ‘or’ 11 times in scripture. The true translation of Matthew 25:5 should read “While the bridegroom tarried they all got drowsy or slept.” Now look at this quote from Signs of the Times about the Garden of Gethsemane. “In this fearful hour of trial Christ's human nature longed even for the sympathy of his disciples. A second time he rose from the earth and went to them and found them sleeping. This was not a deep sleep. They were in a drowse. They had a limited sense of their Lord's suffering and anguish. . In these sleeping disciples he sees a representation of a sleeping church.” {ST, August 14, 1879 par. 10} In this parable of the 10 virgins; the wise ones have an extra measure of oil when they come out of their slumber telling the foolish who slept to go buy for themselves. Where did they get the extra measure of oil, or Holy Spirit? In Gethsemane! They tell the foolish ones to go ‘buy for themselves’, which means it’s too late for them to prepare because the gate is shut and they have to pay for their own sins by their own blood at the second resurrection. The wise virgins have a limited sense of Jesus’ suffering and anguish, while the foolish ones are depicted here. “They forget the Man of Sorrows, who was acquainted with grief. The sufferings of Jesus in Gethsemane, His sweating as it were great drops of blood in the garden, the platted crown of thorns that pierced His holy brow, do not move them. They have become benumbed
M. T. Cross Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Hey James, if you want people to read your posts, its probably better to break them up into shorter ones. Generally speaking people never really read super long posts on message boards. Just something to think about to stir up conversation about your topics.
Guest Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I'm reading your blog, where you say "9/11 was foretold in prophecy". I'm finding it very interesting.
Overaged Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Hey James; you say many interesting things, some of which is true; but this red heifer thing you speak of is a private interpretation which I believe can be very misleading. "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
Guest Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I didn't read the red heifer thing. I went straight to this somehow: http://godheldthefourwinds.blogspot.com/
jamesonofthunder Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 In hearing the Still Small voice prompting me to pray for greater understanding I received this vision. The vision led to the study and the study led to a greater comprehension of truth. How could this be misleading? Everything that God showed me was proven through the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy. It is because of this communion with God that I have received even more light and love. When I saw the sins I had committed placed upon the head of Jesus it made me want never to sin again and many positive changes have come in my and others lives because of this forgotten ceremony illustrated in the life of Jesus. Please sir, tell me how this could mislead anyone? I am desiring to know how, not just if you think it could. How? Please give me a thus saith the Lord OK?
jamesonofthunder Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 I didn't read the red heifer thing. I went straight to this somehow: http://godheldthefourwinds.blogspot.com/ This topic that you are posting on here is the Red Heifer vision. Please pray before reading that God will allow only truth in your heart but be willing to learn in His will.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Hey James; you say many interesting things, some of which is true; but this red heifer thing you speak of is a private interpretation which I believe can be very misleading. "C.H. Spurgeon the renowned Baptist reformer who was called the “prince of Preachers” and quoted from many times by Mrs. Ellen White wrote six in-depth sermons on the subject of the Garden of Gethsemane which I had never read until two years after the vision. Here is a sample of Spurgeon’s sermon recorded in The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, number 493. “And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground” (Luke 22:44). “We believe, then, that Christ did really sweat blood…If you will notice, he not only sweats blood, but it was in great drops; the blood coagulated, and formed large masses. I cannot better express what is meant than by the word ‘gouts’ – big, heavy drops…when it is said ‘falling to the ground’ – it shows their copiousness, so that they not only stood upon the surface and were sucked up by his garments till he became like the red heifer which was slaughtered on that very spot, but the drops fell to the ground. Here he stands unrivaled. He was a man in good health, only about thirty years of age…but the mental pressure…so forced his frame to an unnatural excitement that his pores sent forth great drops of blood which fell to the ground”. This sermon was wonderful to discover in my studies because it solidly proved to my heart that the vision was of no private interpretation because of the connection between the Red Heifer and Gethsemane that Pastor Spurgeon related. The fact that he said Jesus became “like the Red Heifer which was slaughtered on that very spot” in Gethsemane was total vindication against those who deny the vision.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Here are my blogs that have illustrations that give more clarity to the visions. http://godheldthefourwinds.blogspot.com/2011/12/911-god-held-four-wiinds.html About the vision God gave me on Sept. 11 2001 that led to the study. http://whentheycrypeaceandsafety.blogspot.com/2011/12/i-dreamed-of-massive-wall.html About the dream I had of the wall that would be built in Jerusalem. http://eighthking.blogspot.com/2011/12/whos-is-anti-christ-eighth-king-of-rev.html About the Anti-Christ http://redheifersbloodysweat.blogspot.com/2011/12/red-heifer.html About the vision I received showing how Jesus fulfilled the Red Heifer in Gethsemane our appointed place of meeting with Jesus. I am so blessed by these teachings from God. Many of my friends have commented how different I am now. These are signs that that latter rain is about to fall.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 The Red Heifer sacrifice was special, first in that there was no male counterpart. It had to be female. This is symbolic of the church being represented as a woman, but it also represents the first sin. Satan used a woman first; this pattern remains today. (remember Samson?) Righteous women be praised, the devil is in the rest just as in men, but isn't it interesting that way more men are in jail over their desires for a woman? Jesus fulfilled the Red Heifer sacrifice to cleans His church from even the first sin of Eve's. Secondly it was a miracle birth of a animal with not one hair of another color other than red. Perfectly mirroring Jesus covered over every inch of His body in sweaty gouts of blood. Isaiah 1:18(KJV) "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." Isn't it interesting that this text is quoted from Mrs White in context to the Red Heifer? In fact she says that the red Heifer is the subject of this text from Prophet Isaiah. Isaiah 1:18 So why is this subject not taught in our churches if it is so important? When I had my vision of Jesus and the Red Heifer it was like awakening a dream from before. I had vaguely heard the name but never knew the conclusion.
Gibs Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Jamesonofthunder, There is many "Jew" who need to see this has been fulfilled and the full beauty and meaning of it and what a sacrifice He, Yahweh and Yahshua made for us. There is always more, more and a deeper understanding to be had on the plan and execution of the Salvation He Has Provided for every one born of men. He has proven He is Love. He knows us as well as the Son as He was in Him. 2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. A Freeman In Jesus Christ
jamesonofthunder Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 There is always more, more and a deeper understanding to be had on the plan and execution of the Salvation He Has Provided for every one born of men. He has proven He is Love. He knows us as well as the Son as He was in Him. Amen Brother, the love of truth is an exciting, needful desire that the men of God possess. Peace in the name of Yeshua, the only begotten of the Father.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 I just found a quote from the Spirit of Prophecy that proves what God shared with me about Acts 2 where Peter quotes David and says "that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption." This quote proves that this referred to Jesus during His time cut off from the Father, then in the grave. "Peter here shows that David could not have spoken in reference to himself, but definitely of Jesus Christ. David died a natural death like other men; his sepulcher, with the honored dust it contained, had been preserved with great care until that time. David, as king of Israel, and also as a prophet, had been specially honored by God. In prophetic vision he was shown the future life and ministry of Christ. He saw his rejection, his trial, crucifixion, burial, resurrection, and ascension. {3SP 270.1} David testified that the soul of Christ was not to be left in hell, nor was his flesh to see corruption. Peter shows the fulfillment of this prophecy in Jesus of Nazareth. God had actually raised him up from the tomb before his body saw corruption. He was now the exalted One in the Heaven of heavens." {3SP 270.2} Two different phases of the death of Jesus, Praise God.
12tribes Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 Hey James, if you want people to read your posts, its probably better to break them up into shorter ones. Generally speaking people never really read super long posts on message boards. Just something to think about to stir up conversation about your topics. I agree with that, better to be shorter Galatians 3:29(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
12tribes Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 Here are my blogs that have illustrations that give more clarity to the visions. http://godheldthefourwinds.blogspot.com/2011/12/911-god-held-four-wiinds.html About the vision God gave me on Sept. 11 2001 that led to the study. http://whentheycrypeaceandsafety.blogspot.com/2011/12/i-dreamed-of-massive-wall.html About the dream I had of the wall that would be built in Jerusalem. http://eighthking.blogspot.com/2011/12/whos-is-anti-christ-eighth-king-of-rev.html About the Anti-Christ http://redheifersbloodysweat.blogspot.com/2011/12/red-heifer.html About the vision I received showing how Jesus fulfilled the Red Heifer in Gethsemane our appointed place of meeting with Jesus. I am so blessed by these teachings from God. Many of my friends have commented how different I am now. These are signs that that latter rain is about to fall. Are you claiming to have visions like what the Bible says? Galatians 3:29(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Gibs Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 You might judge for your selves of Jamesonofthunder, read, Ac 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Is not these the last days? Yes for sure! Read his posts and decide if it is from God. Don'tbe quick to condemn. There is much to look into that is out of whack and easy to see else where. May all eyes be anointed with eyesalve. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. A Freeman In Jesus Christ
jamesonofthunder Posted January 12, 2012 Author Posted January 12, 2012 You might judge for your selves of Jamesonofthunder, read, Ac 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Is not these the last days? Yes for sure! Read his posts and decide if it is from God. Don'tbe quick to condemn. There is much to look into that is out of whack and easy to see else where. May all eyes be anointed with eyesalve. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. God bless you...
12tribes Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 You might judge for your selves of Jamesonofthunder, read, Ac 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Is not these the last days? Yes for sure! Read his posts and decide if it is from God. Don'tbe quick to condemn. There is much to look into that is out of whack and easy to see else where. May all eyes be anointed with eyesalve. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. It is a fair question, I am reading his posts about visions so I am asking the question. Is he claiming to have visions according to the Bible? It is not a hard question just yes or no? Galatians 3:29(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 13, 2012 Author Posted January 13, 2012 It is a fair question, I am reading his posts about visions so I am asking the question. Is he claiming to have visions according to the Bible? It is not a hard question just yes or no? Thank for your response. 12 Tribes, Yes my visions are according to and in harmony with both the bible and Spirit of Prophecy. I believe I can say that, by the fact that it was after receiving dreams and visions that I was led to the perfect prophetic support already written. It is for this reason I am encouraged to include as much scriptural and SOP support that I can, as a testimony to the line of thought. Am I worthy of this great gift? Not in the least. I used to work for men like Ozzy Osborne and did some pretty crazy things in my past life, but the miracle is in my experience and testimony. That is why I am so encouraged sometimes to include my testimony in the writing of the visions and dreams. The point being...if God could do this for me, He could do it for anyone who listens to HIS call. The same thing was true for Mrs. White. She had a fourth grade education and very sickly...but God called her to be the one to testify about the health reform message and counsel how important it is to learn in the knowledge of the Lord.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 13, 2012 Author Posted January 13, 2012 Where I am weak, I am strong in Him.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 13, 2012 Author Posted January 13, 2012 No man taught me about the Sabbath, I was led to it through His word, not only on paper but in my heart I could hear Him literally.
12tribes Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Originally Posted By: 12tribes It is a fair question, I am reading his posts about visions so I am asking the question. Is he claiming to have visions according to the Bible? It is not a hard question just yes or no? Thank for your response. 12 Tribes, Yes my visions are according to and in harmony with both the bible and Spirit of Prophecy. I believe I can say that, by the fact that it was after receiving dreams and visions that I was led to the perfect prophetic support already written. It is for this reason I am encouraged to include as much scriptural and SOP support that I can, as a testimony to the line of thought. Am I worthy of this great gift? Not in the least. I used to work for men like Ozzy Osborne and did some pretty crazy things in my past life, but the miracle is in my experience and testimony. That is why I am so encouraged sometimes to include my testimony in the writing of the visions and dreams. The point being...if God could do this for me, He could do it for anyone who listens to HIS call. The same thing was true for Mrs. White. She had a fourth grade education and very sickly...but God called her to be the one to testify about the health reform message and counsel how important it is to learn in the knowledge of the Lord. Thank you for giving me an honest answer, now the question, have you been tested by the Bible from the church? I do not believe in blind faith. Just because someone says they have the prophetic gift does not mean we are to blindly follow. EGW was tested Galatians 3:29(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 14, 2012 Author Posted January 14, 2012 Thank you for giving me an honest answer, now the question, have you been tested by the Bible from the church? I do not believe in blind faith. Just because someone says they have the prophetic gift does not mean we are to blindly follow. EGW was tested I have been pleading (literally) for pastors and laypeople to test the Spirit of these dreams/ visions I have had for over a decade. Out of several dozens, three pastors have responded and said they believe God has given me dreams and visions, everyone else never contacts me again. But I promise it's not from my lack of trying to get them to respond. One pastor promised for a whole year to give me a prayerful response about the dreams. Then I heard Him talking about the subjects in his sermons, after I contacted him again he told me he believed in the visions but thought it impertinent of me to tell others I believed they were from God. I don't count him. But my local pastor (very well studied) went out of his way to tell me that I should not be afraid to claim the Spirit of Prophecy, because by his words, he had never heard anyone convey a dream so perfectly in harmony with the word of God. Several other deeply devoted men of God (laymen) have also shared that same sentiment over the years. What is funny to me is, these men show the most promise in the Spirit that I've ever seen. Meek and mild, with great love. Some of the best brothers. Out of all the churches I've been to from Alaska to Missouri these brothers are my life long friends.
12tribes Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 It is good that you want to be tested, I am not doubting just carefuj. If God has a message for you to give He will open the door. Have you contacted the administrators of this site? Galatians 3:29(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
jamesonofthunder Posted January 15, 2012 Author Posted January 15, 2012 It is good that you want to be tested, I am not doubting just carefuj. If God has a message for you to give He will open the door. Have you contacted the administrators of this site? I have resolved in prayer to put it out here for the brethren to read, and God will do the rest. I have been asked to do a couple sermons soon by different congregations, so I am content that this message has been more recently received by more people in authority. But one church asked me not to attend their congregation any more, mainly because God had warned me that they were doing the wrong thing by having mixed meetings with other denominations. Pastoral exchanges they called it. I have no qualms with these men as friends, but when they make decisions in the name of the church, and fight to have authority in the conference see it their way, you know somethings amiss. Our church is being ravaged by Satan and this is the shaking that we are warned about. Since I claim to have this gift, I also by their efforts see the results of that spirit against me by the rage I see against me, and many other levels. So subversive. Secret meetings, when never talking directly to the man in question, that is not how God said we should handle these things. So if leadership refuses to follow biblical protocol...we know where we are in the scope of time. I rejoice in this lately. But it was a hard change in me. I have been in the character of Boanergez; son of thunder. Jamesonofthunder. I hope some day to be seen complete in the light of the Lord.
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