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Samie,

I'm going to spend the millenium with Christ, listen,

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Joh 14:4 ¶ And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

And way up yonder is where He is and He says "receive you unto myself"!

If that isn't cut and dried I don't know what is, but I have no problem with you wanting to stay here if you want, it won't be pleasant I'm sure!

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

A Freeman In Jesus Christ

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Samie,

I'm going to spend the millenium with Christ, listen,

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Joh 14:4 ¶ And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

And way up yonder is where He is and He says "receive you unto myself"!

If that isn't cut and dried I don't know what is, but I have no problem with you wanting to stay here if you want, it won't be pleasant I'm sure!

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

My previous posts covered all your objections, Gibs. Just wondering why you still can't overcome your tenacity at holding on to an incomplete view of what Scriptures explain.

I am going to heaven with you, brother, and together with the saints of all ages, will be occupying the mansions He prepared for us, while we await our marriage with the Lamb where He will receive us unto Himself that where He is, there shall we be.

But Scriptures did not stop at where you wanted it to stop so you can stay put in heaven. Scriptures continue on to tell us, Christ will go back after our marriage with Him, down to this earth with the armies of heaven for the battle of Armageddon. And we shall be with Him as He promised - "that where I am there ye may be also".

I am just anxious, brother, should you refuse to come down, when all the saints with Christ returns to this earth for the final battle. Won't you miss Christ throughout the millennium while He camps with us on this earth?

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Jesus was ON EARTH when He spoke these words. He never said He was going to build extra mansions. The Father's household IS ALREADY established with room for everyone. As Priest (not builder of homes) Jesus mediates in our behalf to MAKE SURE we also will be part of His Father's household.

Tell us WHEN will Jesus "sit on His father David's throne"? And WHEN will the 12 apostles also sit on 12 thrones "ruling over the nations of Israel"?

Jesus LEFT from Mt Olive and will RETURN THE SAME WAY (surely also to the same spot He ascended from) Just read Zachriah 14. Does it mention Mt Olive? You check.

Rev 20:3 tells us very clearly that Satan will be LOCKED UP (not be bound by "circumstances" roaming the empty earth). Why locked up? The BIBLE says so he cannot deceive (keep the gospel away from) the NATIONS. v.8 refers to the SAME NATIONS, some of whom indeed did not accept the gospel, and THEY help Satan attack Jerusalem! Read the passage S L O W L Y.

During the EARTHLY Millennium, people will still be sinners, but they will then ALL have FREE ACCESS to hear you and I and the other saints tell them the gospel, unrestrained by Satan. Not a second chance, but the billions who never had a FIRST opportunity to hear the gospel. Makes sense? Or are we just lucky to be brought up as Christians? too bad for "them"?

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Yes, and one more thing, NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN, EVER! Unless you believe in the RAPTURE, or like SDA, in the 1000 year sin-record-auditing. That's what JESUS said. Enoch and friend never went to heaven. Do some research. Google: Is Enock and Elijah REALLY in heaven? Tell us what you found most convincing.

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Jesus was ON EARTH when He spoke these words. He never said He was going to build extra mansions.
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Yes, and one more thing, NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN, EVER! Unless you believe in the RAPTURE, or like SDA, in the 1000 year sin-record-auditing. That's what JESUS said. Enoch and friend never went to heaven. Do some research. Google: Is Enock and Elijah REALLY in heaven? Tell us what you found most convincing.
I remember addressing this same issue before. Nevertheless, I'll address it again. Not with Google. Only with Scriptures.

The sea of glass is in heaven (Rev 4:6). Scriptures explicitly say the saints will sing the song of Moses and the song of the Lamb on the sea of glass (Rev 15:2-4). Therefore the saints will be in heaven to sing the song of Moses and the song of the Lamb. This proves that the conclusion "NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN, EVER!" is against what the Bible plainly says.

And no, I don't believe in the Rapture nor in sin-audit. They cannot be proven from Scriptures alone.

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