CoAspen Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 You need to update...I am speaking of the current conversation, modern times!! Quote
Windsor Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 You need to update...I am speaking of the current conversation, modern times!! This is from wikipedia: "Modern paganism, also known as contemporary paganism, and neopaganism, is a group of contemporary religious movements influenced by or claiming to be derived from the various historical pagan beliefs of pre-modern Europe.[1][2] Although they do share commonalities, contemporary Pagan religious movements are diverse and no single set of beliefs, practices, or texts are shared by them all.[3] Since the 20th century, "Paganism" (or "Neopaganism") has become the identifier for a collection of new religious movements attempting to continue, revive, or reconstruct historical pre-Abrahamic religion." We are talking about pre-Abrahamic religion even in modern times!!! Hence, the same principle applies. Even if we're talking about a made up new pagan religion, we're still talking about Satan's influence. Quote Remember Adventists Online?
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted December 19, 2013 Administrators Posted December 19, 2013 "pre-Abrahamic" Before Abraham there were a few noteworthy Biblical followers of Yahweh mentioned in the Bible. Not everyone before Abraham were Satan worshipers. Many non-Judeo-Christian religions have ancient stories that bear a remarkable resemblance to the early stories of Scripture, such as a creation story and a flood story. That suggests a common source before the people of earth scattered around the world as we understand happened at the tower of Babel. No doubt before they scattered they had heard the stories of God from Noah and his family. Those stories and beliefs were passed down from one generation to another by word of mouth, just as to Abraham, and even centuries later to Moses who is credited for first writing it down in our tradition. The word of mouth method of knowledge transfer among disparate people is likely to have significant variance in details and even embellishments by the sages as they are interpreted and applied over time. Just consider the variations religions that trace their lineage back to Abraham - Judaism, Islam and Christianity - and that with written records. Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Kountzer Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Did nothing special for halloween. Didn't put up decorations, did not hand out candy. Noticed a certain amount of emotional spark in the air, but did not celebrate the day. For thanksgiving we ate very well. Slept a lot. Watched TV. Xmas, new year's and easter will follow the same pattern. The biggest day for us is the sabbath. Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass
olger Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Indeed. Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Windsor Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 There are only two options. Either you (or anyone) are worshiping Yahweh or you are worshiping the devil. There is no in between. Even if one is not worshiping Satan in the traditional sense, they are still giving Satan honor. Demons can seem like the nicest loving people there are. Sometimes they appear as Jesus. I wonder if you've ever read the Roger Morneau book, "Beware of Angels"? Quote Remember Adventists Online?
Kountzer Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Whatever direction the church goes into, there will be someone in some forum throwing rocks at the decision. Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass
Administrators Naomi Posted December 21, 2013 Administrators Posted December 21, 2013 Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Members phkrause Posted December 21, 2013 Members Posted December 21, 2013 Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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