Moderators lazarus Posted July 14, 2015 Moderators Posted July 14, 2015 A Florida lawmaker suggested that Donald Trump’s bombastic presidential campaign may be a Democratic plot to make the Republican Party look bad. Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Miami) posted a tweet last week in Spanish that echoed speculative comments he made to popular radio host Ahora Oscar Haza, reported the Miami Herald. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/florida-republican-donald-trump-is-a-democratic-plot-to-make-gop-look-stupid/ phkrause 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 He reminds me a lot of Jessie Ventura. The joke we had as governor for four years. We have had enough of narcissistic man children,maybe we can get an adult this time around Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
hch Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 A Florida lawmaker suggested that Donald Trump’s bombastic presidential campaign may be a Democratic plot to make the Republican Party look bad. Ah ha: The old wolf in sheepskin ploy. phkrause 1 Quote His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
Moderators lazarus Posted July 19, 2015 Author Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 Trump's popularity tells us a lot about the republican party and their supporters. phkrause 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted July 19, 2015 Members Posted July 19, 2015 Trump's popularity tells us a lot about the republican party and their supporters. not really. I think the majority of voters in both the Democratic and Republican parties don't voice their opinions. While polls can be useful, they definitely aren't the all to end all... phkrause 1 Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
GayatfootofCross Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Dear Mr. Trump Please keep sharing what is in your heart everyday in front of the Media and crowds. Sincerely,GAY P.S. Do not hold back. I want to hear it all. Edited July 19, 2015 by GayatfootofCross Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
Moderators Bravus Posted July 19, 2015 Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 Completely happy to see Trump making a lot of noise at this stage: he's not viable as a candidate but he can, as Gay, noted, expose the dark heart of some of the Republican fringe, and consume all the campaign oxygen. phkrause 1 Quote Truth is important
Moderators lazarus Posted July 19, 2015 Author Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) While polls can be useful, they definitely aren't the all to end all... Most polls done by reputable companies are accurate within a relatively small margin of error. We get a good sense that Trump's rhetoric is resonating. Liberal Fox News contributor Jehmu Greene encouraged Republicans to “own up to the fact” that GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s “douchebaggery” reflected the base that had controlled the party for the past seven years. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/guest-tells-fox-own-up-to-the-fact-that-gop-encourages-donald-trumps-douchebaggery/ Edited July 19, 2015 by lazarus phkrause 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
B/W Photodude Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 Liberal Fox News contributor Jehmu Greene encouraged Republicans to “own up to the fact” that GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s “douchebaggery” reflected the base that had controlled the party for the past seven years. ZoNation: Would Jesus be a Democrat? Published on Oct 1, 2013 Please note for those concerned about original posting dates, the video was is not immediately current, however, the message is current! Ed Schultz is aghast by church-going Republicans who vote against socialized healthcare, food stamps, and welfare. He claims its un-Christian. Zo is at the ready to rebut--explaining that Jesus does want us to help people, but to actually help them, not to leave them sucking at the government's teat. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Moderators lazarus Posted July 19, 2015 Author Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 This thread is about Donald Trump!!!! phkrause 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
B/W Photodude Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 Liberal Fox News contributor Jehmu Greene encouraged Republicans to “own up to the fact” that GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s “douchebaggery” reflected the base that had controlled the party for the past seven years. It seems you expanded what the thread was about. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Moderators lazarus Posted July 19, 2015 Author Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 It seems you expanded what the thread was about. Er....I think you did. That video didn't even mention trump. It wasn't even tangential. phkrause 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Moderators lazarus Posted July 19, 2015 Author Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 Once upon a time, the Republican Party was a sober-sided collective that strategically pandered to the resentments of a loud, fractious, ultra-conservative wing. But increasingly, that tail now wags this dog. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/bal-donald-trump-is-number-one-20150717-story.html phkrause 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Moderators Bravus Posted July 19, 2015 Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 The other thing is that, while they might choose some different words and expressions of the 'ideas', I don't imagine that most of our resident Republicans here would differ too much with Trump on policy.Or am I wrong? This would be a much more interesting thread if B/W Photodude and bonnie were interested in outlining their differences with Trump. phkrause and Stan 2 Quote Truth is important
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 19, 2015 Moderators Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) I can't blame either the Republicans or the Democrats for Donald Trump. I do think that his latest about John McCain eliminates him as a potential successful candidate for President.. I think that he will be rejected by both Republicans and Democrats. Edited July 19, 2015 by Gregory Matthews phkrause, rudywoofs (Pam) and Lauralea 3 Quote Gregory
bonnie Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 The other thing is that, while they might choose some different words and expressions of the 'ideas', I don't imagine that most of our resident Republicans here would differ too much with Trump on policy.Or am I wrong? This would be a much more interesting thread if B/W Photodude and bonnie were interested in outlining their differences with Trump. He reminds me a lot of Jessie Ventura. The joke we had as governor for four years. We have had enough of narcissistic man children,maybe we can get an adult this time around I would think this made it pretty clear. Unfortunately a lot of Minnessotans laughed and condemned Jessie Ventura to,never dreaming that he would be our governor.. Trump sounds a lot like him. T times saying those things that resonate with the average american. Those lofty democrats as well,without them we would never had the joke of Ventura. He shot to approval on welfare. A single mother,college student asked him what as governor he was going to do to help her.He said nothing,I didn't get you pregnant,talk to the father. Same moaning and groaning about his brashness and political incorrectness from some,but conservatives,democrats and libertarians voted him into office. I haven't listened enough to any of them to outline anything. Time will tell but I believe the time is coming soon that in good conscience I can't vote for any of them. I do think Trump has struck a chord with illegal immigration Bravus 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 These are the type of comments that pushed Ventura into the governors mansion. He posted this on his Facebook page Saturday, Many of the other candidates in the crowded 16-person Republican primary have ducked the issue of illegal immigration or waffled on it. Trump is now forcing them to address it. Not beholden to any big business interests funding his campaign – he’s self-funded – Trump calls it the way he sees it. Maybe he’ll actually get the problems at the VA cleaned up too. Trump’s straight talk should make the forthcoming primary debates very, very interesting. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 20, 2015 Moderators Posted July 20, 2015 Interesting, perhaps. We shall see. Quote Gregory
B/W Photodude Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 This would be a much more interesting thread if B/W Photodude and bonnie were interested in outlining their differences with Trump. I have watched enough of these elections cycles not to get too wild about anyone a year and a half almost before the election. Trump is saying some things that the ones who have already been elected and should be doing what they are supposed to be doing are not. However, the media will make them "on top" one by one and then find some way to knock them off the top. Until recently, Carson seemed to be on top, but they seemed to have gotten tired of him. And when they are done knocking off Trump, who will they work on next? It is even pointless to read thru Trumps whole agenda and find my differences. And for those who actually read a lot here, you would already know who I matched closest to of all the candidates! Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
B/W Photodude Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I have watched enough of these elections cycles not to get too wild about anyone a year and a half almost before the election. Trump is saying some things that the ones who have already been elected and should be doing what they are supposed to be doing are not. However, the media will make them "on top" one by one and then find some way to knock them off the top. Until recently, Carson seemed to be on top, but they seemed to have gotten tired of him. And when they are done knocking off Trump, who will they work on next? It is even pointless to read thru Trumps whole agenda and find my differences. And for those who actually read a lot here, you would already know who I matched closest to of all the candidates! More editing time would be nice! I have watched enough of these elections cycles not to get too wild about anyone a year and a half almost before the election. Trump is saying some things that the ones who have already been elected and should be doing what they are supposed to be doing are not. However, the media will make different candidates to be "on top" one by one and then find some way to knock them off the top. Until recently, Carson seemed to be on top, but they seemed to have gotten tired of him. And when they are done knocking off Trump (currently in progress!), who will they work on next? It is even pointless to read thru Trumps whole agenda and find my differences at this stage of the political process. And for those who actually read a lot here, you would already know who I matched closest to of all the candidates! So, most of my comments are more likely to focus on philosophical differences and historical behaviors of the parties and not the individuals wanting to be. Current office holders are fair game! Now some have said we should not criticize current officeholders because that is who God has placed in charge. Maybe or maybe not. I think the impression I get from Scripture is we should respect the forms of government we have. And the last time I checked criticism of current office holders in America is a right and privilege of the citizenry and as such, people exercising that right are too be respected when engaging in their right of free speech. Of course, usual Christian ideals should guide how you criticize your leaders. Now a few posts back it was alleged I was tagentalizing when I posted the Zonation video. However, it was the same poster who wrote, "Trumps popularity tells us a lot about the republican party and their supporters." Interesting enough, the thread was supposed was supposed to be about that Democratic plot, but was being turned into something about the supporters of the Republican party. So who is posting in the tangent?! Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Moderators lazarus Posted July 20, 2015 Author Moderators Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Now a few posts back it was alleged I was tagentalizing when I posted the Zonation video. No, I was saying that it wasn't even tangential. I wished it was at least that. You are right. I didn't really stick to the OP. We can talk about that if you like but it seemed outlandish to me but clearly there is discomfort with Trump's antics. Trump will of course shrivel up but I wouldn't blame the media for that. His racist demagoguery doesn't have a lot of mileage beyond the base of the GOP. The rest of the candidates know that. Seems like BW that you agree with his views. There is one major question left to be answered. Will Trump do a Ross Perot? Now that would be stupendous! I really did think 2016 was going to be miserable. I couldn't have been more wrong. Edited July 20, 2015 by lazarus Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Aliensanctuary Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Wasn't it Ross Perot who gave the election to Bill Clinton by drawing off Republican votes from Bush 1? Perot was a buffoon, and so is Trump, although Trump seems to be a little more sophisticated, and probably richer, buffoon. I'd like to see Trump confronting the Ayatollah, Putin, Kim Jong il, ISIS, and Hillary Clinton. That might make a good reality show, although I never watch those kind of TV programs. If Trump is miraculously elected and the confrontations actually happen, we might expect nuclear war across the globe. GayatfootofCross 1 Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
B/W Photodude Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Another opinion: I have the good fortune of knowing both John McCain and Donald Trump well. Both men have more in common than the today's media hype would have you believe. Both blazed trails in their careers and love our great nation. Sen. McCain dedicated his life to serving our country, and in my humble opinion the sacrifices made by all ethical service members are heroic – putting it all on the line to defend freedom IS heroic – and Donald Trump is a hero in another arena. Trump is the candidate giving voice to untold millions of fed-up Americans witnessing a purposeful destruction of our economy and the equal opportunity for success that made America exceptional. We're watching career politicians throw away our kids' future through bankrupting public budgets and ripping open our porous borders which, obvious to all us non-politicians, puts us at great risk. Everywhere I go, hard-working patriotic Americans – not "crazies" or "wacko birds" – ask me to pass on to Mr. Trump encouragement to keep educating the masses about true ramifications of illegal immigration, and in general the real state of our union. I encourage both leaders to resolve the media driven wedge between them, and we can keep the debate focused on significant issues at hand. I leave politics of personal destruction to those on the Left and lazy media lapdogs whose only take away from any debate is any salacious slip-up, as if they've never wanted to restate something they've publicly uttered. I'll fight the exhausting, divisive strategy that's taken hold under the current crop of politicians who refuse to allow our United States to unite. Both Mr. Trump and Sen. McCain can contribute their gifts and talents to join that fight to work together, because the Left is headed the other direction, and under their desired division we will fall. - Sarah Palin Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
CoAspen Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Who is SP......unreality show host....I see Russia from my back yard foreign policy....or is it Tina Fey?? Quote
bonnie Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Just for those that obtain their facts from shows as Saturday Night Live........ It isn't nice to imply something you know is false. Snopes Origins: Paradoxically, one of the common features of catch phrases associated with famous figures (both real and fictional) is that those phrases are often caricatures that do not reflect statements actually made by the people with whom they're associated. For years, impersonators merely had to utter the lines "Judy, Judy, Judy" or "Come with me to the Casbah," and listeners immediately knew they were portraying actors Cary Grant and Charles Boyer, respectively, though neither man ever delivered such a line in any of his roles. Likewise, the phrase most indelibly associated with the fictional character of Sherlock Holmes, "Elementary, my dear Watson," appeared in none of the original works authored by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. So it is that one of the quotes most strongly associated with former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin is the exclamation "I can see Russia from my house!" even though she didn't actually utter that phrase during the campaign. The basis for the line was Governor Palin's 11 September 2008 appearance on ABC News, her first major interview after being tapped as the vice-presidential nominee. During that appearance, interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska": Two days later, on the 2008 season premiere of Saturday Night Live, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler appeared in a sketch portraying Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton, during which Fey spoofed Governor Palin's remark of a few days earlier with the following exchange:FEY AS PALIN: "You know, Hillary and I don't agree on everything . . ." POEHLER AS CLINTON: (OVERLAPPING) "Anything. I believe that diplomacy should be the cornerstone of any foreign policy." FEY AS PALIN: "And I can see Russia from my house." Henceforth, invocations of Sarah Palin frequently employed the line "I can see Russia from my house," rather than the words she actually spoke, "You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska." As to the question of whether one can actually see Russia from Alaska, Governor Palin was correct: such a view is possible from more than one site in that state. A Slate article on the topic noted that:In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small, sparsely populated islands: Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other. B/W Photodude 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
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