How and when does Satan personate Christ?

[phkrause]

On 2/15/2016 at 2:12 PM, Kdogae86 said:

Did Christ put an end to sacrifice and offering after the 69th week?

Yes, it ended with the stoning of Stephen and than the gospel was to go to the gentiles. The 70th week is the week Christ was Crucified, in the middle of the week. Check with Prs Batchelor, Bohr, Wahlberg, Schusler, Finley, Dr Dean Davis, Cox, EGW, etc., etc. I'd add Pr. Dr J.M. Hoffman, but he passed away many years ago. He was my Pastor back in the Bronx, NY at the Jewish Adventist Temple. There are many more I could name. But I believe if you really study all of them put together you will find its pretty accurate!

[JoeMo]

4 minutes ago, phkrause said:

Kdog: Did Christ put an end to sacrifice and offering after the 69th week?

phk: Yes, it ended with the stoning of Stephen and than the gospel was to go to the gentiles. The 70th week is the week Christ was Crucified, in the middle of the week. Check with Prs Batchelor, Bohr, Wahlberg, Schusler, Finley, Dr Dean Davis, Cox, EGW, etc., etc. I'd add Pr. Dr J.M. Hoffman, but he passed away many years ago. He was my Pastor back in the Bronx, NY at the Jewish Adventist Temple. There are many more I could name. But I believe if you really study all of them put together you will find its pretty accurate!

"In the middle of the ‘seven’^[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he [an anointed one - not Jesus] will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him" (Dan. 9:27)

When you add the rest of Daniel 9:27, the one who puts an end to sacrifice can't possibly be Christ.  He would NEVER set up and abomination in the Temple. Furthermore, Of His Kingdom there will be no end;  the "anointed one" in Dan. 9 appears to have a rather unpleasant demise at the end of the "week"; wich would be 3-1/2 years after Christ died.  

From the middle of the 70th week until the end is 3-1/2 years - a time, times, and half a time - 1260 days by the Jewish calendar. The same length of time as the Great Tribulation.  Is this just a coincidence, or is the 70th week really referring to the last 7 years of earths history?  I believe it is the latter.  All of the resources you pointed to are very learned men; but - as certificated SDA pastors, they must support the denomination's view (which is likely their own strongly held opinions as well).  I'm not saying they are wrong and I'm right; I'm saying I don't believe as they do.  Only time will tell who was right.  Or we both might be wrong - we never really "know" how prophecy will unfold until it unfolds.

[Alchemy]

Sorry for being gone so long.

Just for clarification; Will Satan personate Christ before or after the close of Probation?

 

[Green Cochoa]

1 minute ago, Alchemy said:

Sorry for being gone so long.

Just for clarification; Will Satan personate Christ before or after the close of Probation?

 

Seeing as we do not and will not know when probation will close, this question is moot.

 

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God has not revealed to us the time when this message will close or when probation will have an end. Those things that are revealed we shall accept for ourselves and for our children, but let us not seek to know that which has been kept secret in the councils of the Almighty. . . .  {LDE 227.1}  
     Letters have come to me asking me if I have any special light as to the time when probation will close, and I answer that I have only this message to bear, that it is now time to work while the day lasts, for the night cometh in which no man can work.--1SM 191 (1894).  {LDE 227.2}  

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

[Alchemy]

I would say this much;

I believe Satan personated Christ in the wilderness of temptation. The third temptation Satan claimed all the attributes of Christ, right in Christ's face.

[Alchemy]

I disagree with Green Cochoa. My question is not moot.

It is true we will not know the exact time probation closes, but, we will know when the 7 last plagues are falling and will know probation has closed by then!

I believe Revelation 16:12-16 teaches us that Satan personation of Christ is during the sixth plague. The dragon being Satan on the earth.

[JoeMo]

Just my opinion, but I believe satan will impersonate Christ before the close of probation.  Two reasons:

1. I don't believe that probation closes until the dead in Christ are raised and together with them the living saved will meet with the Lord in the air.  There is no one left on earth who is "safe to save", so the 7 bowls of God's wrath fall and destroy the wicked.

2. Why would satan need to impersonate Christ after probation closes?  Everyone is on his side; there is no one left to deceive and persecute or receive the mark of the beast.

[Alchemy]

On February 22, 2016 at 9:15 AM, JoeMo said:

Just my opinion, but I believe satan will impersonate Christ before the close of probation.  Two reasons:

1. I don't believe that probation closes until the dead in Christ are raised and together with them the living saved will meet with the Lord in the air.  There is no one left on earth who is "safe to save", so the 7 bowls of God's wrath fall and destroy the wicked.

2. Why would satan need to impersonate Christ after probation closes?  Everyone is on his side; there is no one left to deceive and persecute or receive the mark of the beast.

Well, along with the Scriptures, I also lean on the writings of Ellen White. In The Great Controversy, chapter 39 called the Time of Trouble, I believe that probation closes some time before the Second Coming of Christ. That may be months instead of years, but, I believe probation closes before Christ comes.

Also, Satan still believes he can win his life and his freedom. He personates Christ in sheer desparation. He is fighting for his life and he knows his time is very short. He isn't looking to convert anyone! He simply wants to destroy all of God's people who are left on the earth.

[JoeMo]

6 hours ago, Alchemy said:

Well, along with the Scriptures, I also lean on the writings of Ellen White. In The Great Controversy, chapter 39 called the Time of Trouble, I believe that probation closes some time before the Second Coming of Christ. That may be months instead of years, but, I believe probation closes before Christ comes.

If you can show me some definitive scriptures that explicitly say that probation ends before the 2nd Coming, I'll consider what you and Ellen propose.  If you are talking about probation closing immediately before the 7 bowls fall, IMHO the saved (both living and dead) are already in the sky with Jesus when they fall; and the wicked are destroyed before Jesus establishes His millennial Kingdom here on earth.  IMHO, this "rapture" and the 7 bowls may occur in the time frame between the 1,290 days and 1,335 days spoken of in Daniel 12.  Just an opinion I hold at this moment.  I reserve the right to be wrong and change my mind at any given moment.

[8thdaypriest]

Anciently, "probation" closed for an Israelite WHEN the High Priest entered the Most Holy Place on the Day of Atonement.  Any Israelite who did not humble his heart, and repent of his sin (bringing a sin offering) prior to that moment, was "cut off from the people" in the eyes of God. 

I personally believe the "court" scene of Daniel 7:9-10 will fulfill the Day of Atonement prophecy.  IMMEDIATELY upon official transfer of dominion to the Son of Man, He will come out from the Heavenly Temple, to bless His waiting people.  It will be judgment day for those "cut off".  They will be left behind to suffer the 7 last plagues.  Their bodies will be consumed with this earth.  The redeemed will be caught up to meet the LORD. 

The DAY of Atonement was ONE DAY.  I cannot personally believe the DAY of Atonement began back in 1844, and is still going on.  Jesus knows with whom He has a relationship.  It will not take Him 75 years+ to figure it out.  He said, "I know my sheep."

 

 

[8thdaypriest]

On 2/19/2016 at 9:47 AM, JoeMo said:

"In the middle of the ‘seven’^[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he [an anointed one - not Jesus] will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him" (Dan. 9:27)

When you add the rest of Daniel 9:27, the one who puts an end to sacrifice can't possibly be Christ.  He would NEVER set up and abomination in the Temple. Furthermore, Of His Kingdom there will be no end;  the "anointed one" in Dan. 9 appears to have a rather unpleasant demise at the end of the "week"; wich would be 3-1/2 years after Christ died.  

From the middle of the 70th week until the end is 3-1/2 years - a time, times, and half a time - 1260 days by the Jewish calendar. The same length of time as the Great Tribulation.  Is this just a coincidence, or is the 70th week really referring to the last 7 years of earths history?  I believe it is the latter.  All of the resources you pointed to are very learned men; but - as certificated SDA pastors, they must support the denomination's view (which is likely their own strongly held opinions as well).  I'm not saying they are wrong and I'm right; I'm saying I don't believe as they do.  Only time will tell who was right.  Or we both might be wrong - we never really "know" how prophecy will unfold until it unfolds.

    Daniel 7:25-27 “He (the little horn Antichrist power) shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change time law.  Then the saints will be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time.  But the court will be seated, and they shall take away his dominion to consume and destroy it forever.  Then the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.  His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.”

In the above passage, the "court" is seated, and brings an END to the persecution, which has been going on for "a time, times, and half a time".  This puts the seating of "the court" at the very END of time.   “The saints” are persecuted by the “little horn”Antichrist power for three and a part years.  At the END of this time period (1260 days, 42 months), the kingdom is “given to the saints of the Most High” by the Heavenly Court. The prophecy of Revelation sounds very similar.             

Revelation 13:4-5  [The deadly would was healed and after that] “So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, ‘Who is like the beast?  Who is able to make war with him?’  And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he (the beast) was given authority to continue for forty-two months” (v. 7-8). “And it was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them.  And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.  And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

The Catholic church did not rule over EVERY "tribe, tongue, and nation".   Though she might - at some time in the future.  It's possible.  We'll just have to wait and see. 

 

[8thdaypriest]

Revelation 13:5  "And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

Why would people "worship" him, unless they BELIEVE him to be their god? 

The Christians are looking for Christ to return.  The Muslims (expecting the end of the age) are also looking for Jesus (but he will act differently).    The Jews are looking for Messiah.  The Hindus are also expecting a great teacher.  The atheists are looking for a magnificent ALIEN who will arrive just in time to save the planet.  Everyone is EXPECTING someone.  So Satan will appear - as all things to all people.

Satan does it because God allows him to do it.  He has wanted to do this for thousands of years.  Satan will claim every person who worships him.  Those who refuse to worship him, Satan will target for extermination.  When there is no one left to teach the Word of God (because they are either imprisoned or dead) THAT is when it's over. 

The "two witnesses" are Smyrna and Philadelphia - the two shining candlesticks still left.  The other 5 were "removed" because they "refused to repent".  The "two witnesses" give their testimony for 1260 days (clothed in sackcloth of mourning).  The Beast then kills them.   3.5 days later the witnesses are resurrected at the "voice from heaven".  They ascend to heaven in a cloud, just as the 7th trumpet sounds.  Voices in heaven are heard saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ."  THIS IS THE SECOND COMING. 

[8thdaypriest]

            The “bowl” or “vial” plagues of Revelation Chapter 16, are “poured out without mercy”.  They are “the great winepress of the wrath of God (Rev 14:20).  “In them, the wrath of God is complete (Rev 15:1).

        There is no mention of any servant of God on this earth during these last wrath plagues.  In fact, just before these plagues are poured out, John the Revelator sees “those who have gotten the victory over the Beast and over his image” standing on the sea of glass, which is before the thrown of God in Heaven (Rev. 15:2, Rev. 4:6).

    1 Thessalonians 1:10 “... wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.”
 
    1 Thessalonians 5:9 “For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.”

        There is a DIFFERENCE between the time of testing, and the time of wrath.

        The testing time, is 42 months - “time, times, and a part” - 1260 days.  It is the final call to repentance.

The “time of His wrath” - FOLLOWS this testing time.  The time of wrath begins with the 7th trumpet - the “last trump”.

    Darby taught that the “vials” of wrath, will be poured out DURING the last 3.5 years.

    I believe the warning trumpet plagues, will take place DURING the last 3.5 years.
    I believe the “two witnesses” of Revelation Cpt Eleven will testify during this time.  
    I believe the people of God will be persecuted during this time.
    I believe this period will be “the time of Jacob’s trouble”.
    The 1260 days (42 months, 3.5 years) lead up to the Second Coming in glory.

[stinsonmarri]

The Bible never said that Satan would appear to look like YAHSHUA. Nor does it say that the beast is the papacy. It also does not say that the mark of the beast is Sunday! JoeMo I prefer the KJV much better on  2 Thess  2:1-4 and it reads as follows:

 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called ELOHIM, or that is worshipped; so that he as ELOHIM sitteth in the temple of ELOHIM, shewing himself that he is ELOHIM. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom YAHSHUA shall consume with the breathe of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of HIS coming: 2Th 2:3-8 

Now I highlighted somethings for you to notice and compare with Rev Chapter 17. I would like for anyone to show me in the Bible where you will find that the mark of the beast is Sunday, Satan comes down and it read he look like THE SON of THE MOST HIGH! Then show in the Bible that the whore and the beast are the same person? Please do not give me anything else but the Bible only!

Blessings have a happy Sabbath!

[AliAgins]

Just curious...  Are most of those posting to this subject Seventh-day Adventist?   I'm not recognizing too much in the way of my understanding of Biblical and EGW's light on that Biblical prophecy.

[JoeMo]

5 hours ago, AliAgins said:

Just curious...  Are most of those posting to this subject Seventh-day Adventist?   I'm not recognizing too much in the way of my understanding of Biblical and EGW's light on that Biblical prophecy.

If you are asking if the postings to this subject are all in accordance with the mainstream doctrines of the SDA Church, the answer in my opinion is no.  There are a spectrum of believers on here - some non-SDAs, some generic SDA's, and some card-carrying fundamental SDAs.  All are welcome.  It is the diversity of opinion that generates discussion.  When someone says something different than what we may personally believe, it (hopefully) motivates us to study the subject further rather than simply dismiss the other person's opinion out-of-hand.

[stinsonmarri]

On 2/27/2016 at 6:05 PM, AliAgins said:

Just curious...  Are most of those posting to this subject Seventh-day Adventist?   I'm not recognizing too much in the way of my understanding of Biblical and EGW's light on that Biblical prophecy.

I have been an SDA since 1955 and I still am one. I will defend EGW base on what she was shone and what ELOHIM told her. All of this goes with the Bible and it was given like Acts 2:16, 17 said would happen that we as Adventist should know but it appears that we are asleep. It is time to wake and understand the truth if we want to be save. EGW was not a prophetess John the Revelator was the last prophet in the Bible. She stated she was not but you claim to believe her but this you refuse to believe. She also said to take the Bible over what she thought or believed. She said that when we see error we should not shun it but always many of us turn a def eye to what she presented. EGW wrote many books but the ones that was given for her to write by YAHSHUA is Early Writings, Spiritual Gifts, Spirit of Prophecy, Desire of Ages and Testimony to the Ministers. Many book that the publishers had publish are repetitious and not her books she wrote. Now she also wrote books that were written for the early church to prevent and to show many that ELOHIM was leading them from THE FATHER through HIS SON, as HE did the children of Israel. They fail as our church is doing today but a remnant will come from this church, EGW first vision gave this proof!!! 

It is up to each individual to make a choice which is the power given to you by ELOHIM. Whom will you serve the leaders like during the time of YAHSHUA or HIM! I choose HIM and the Bible is our road map even though Satan tried to change it. It will not fail us if we study, and yes talk with each other, like they did, look at the fact, pray and allow THE HOLY SPIRIT to lead you into all truth. It is up to each and every one of us to search the Scripture for truth. EGW and others ELOHIM used was to always lead us back to the Bible. Please all of you ask for understanding and read for yourself and stop believing everything just because it come the leaders. They cannot save you only YAHSHUA saves. The Bible warn us that the priest or leaders have said thus said YAHWEH when HE had not spoken. They have put no difference between the Holy and the unholy. Eze. 22:26, 28 There are many things we must unlearn and then relearn that is why YAHSHUA talks about the five wise and five foolish virgins. Which group will you join?

Blessings!

[LifeHiscost]

On 2/16/2016 at 2:05 PM, LifeHiscost said:

19 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said:

Which group will you join?

Blessings!

But as for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.”....Joshua 24

God is Love!~Jesus saves! 

[LifeHiscost]

On 2/27/2016 at 7:56 PM, stinsonmarri said:

 

Now I highlighted somethings for you to notice and compare with Rev Chapter 17. I would like for anyone to show me in the Bible where you will find that the mark of the beast is Sunday, Satan comes down and it read he look like THE SON of THE MOST HIGH! Then show in the Bible that the whore and the beast are the same person? Please do not give me anything else but the Bible only!

Blessings have a happy Sabbath!

Evidently it might be difficult to believe this.

…24This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true. 25And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were written in detail, I suppose that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written.....John 21

Here is a religious system that claims to have a mark for their authority and the Divine authority to change the Word.

  

The Catholic Church claims responsibility for the change from seventh-day to first-day Sabbath. Here is an explanation from The Catechism of the Catholic Church Section 2 Article 3 (1994):

Sunday – fulfillment of the Sabbath. Sunday is expressly distinguished from the Sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the Sabbath...

The Sabbath, which represented the completion of the first creation, has been replaced by Sunday which recalls the new creation, has been replaced by Sunday which recalls the new creation inaugurated by the Resurrection of Christ...

In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays.

And here are various Catholic sources claiming the change was the doing of the Roman Catholic Church:

Cardinal James Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (Ayers Publishing, 1978): 108:

But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.

The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957): 50:

Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Q. Why Do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.

Chancellor Albert Smith for Cardinal of Baltimore Archdiocese, letter dated February 10, 1920:

If Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day by God is Saturday. In keeping the Sunday, they are following a law of the Catholic Church.

  

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception-Sabbath_Sunday_Catholic_Church

10Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.....Ephesians 6

God is Love!~Jesus saves!       

[Martn]

Sometime within the next 300 years.

According to Daniel 8:11-14. Given that Daniel was an astrologer.

Using inspired astrology of course. Not ordinary astrology, forbidden to Jews because of the pagan worship involved. Among orthodox Jews, in fact, the true study of astrology was at one time deemed so important it was almost made a commandment. God gave us the sun, moon, and stars "for signs" (Gen. 1:14-16), and so to every thing and every purpose under the sun there is a set period and set time given (Eccl. 3:1-8).

Daniel served in the courts of Babylon. In Babylonian astrology, specifically, a day was used to represent a year, and vice versa, and an astrological Age was about 2300 days (years) in length.

Our present Age, the Age of the Church (Age of the Fish, called Pisces, which followed the Age of the Sheep called Aries, the Age of the Temple and its sacrifical Lamb), will last 2300 years, having begun with the death and resurrection of Jesus --with the desolation of the Temple, beginning at the tearing of the curtain in the most holy place. Exactly 2300 years from that date, Daniel was told, everything would be finished.

Jesus walked the earth for three and a half years, and then the Temple was defiled. The final, 70th week (seven years) of Daniel's prophecy was therefore not completed. Daniel's people, the Jews, still have three and a half years remaining in which all the ancient prophecies and promises concerning them are to be fulfilled --in full.

During this final three and a half years (equal to 1260 literal days), another man will walk the earth. Note how it says, repeatedly, that this impostor will be a MAN (a human being, not an angel). He will appear to have supernatural powers and will sit, enthroned as a King, in the present temple (the Dome of the Rock), thereby defiling the holy place on which it stands, claiming to be Allah (which will please the Muslims) and Messiah (which will please all else). Everyone, in all religions, will be won over by the wonders he performs.

But his miracles will be fake. Enabled by modern technology. Secret technology far more advanced than anything known publicly. A fraud perpetrated by worldly governments seeking to enslave humanity.

(The actual, Jewish Temple and its services will never again be rebuilt. Jeremiah 3:16. Jews, for the most part, have learned to live without any need of such primitive --and barbaric-- object lessons.)

The most important difference between this fake Jesus and the real Jesus is that the real Jesus will not claim to be God, but the fake Jesus will claim to be God, and that is why most Christians will be taken in by him. The true Jesus does not want our worship, but tells us to worship God instead --Revelation 22:9-13.

 

 

 

 

[AliAgins]

21 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

 She stated she was not but you claim to believe her but this you refuse to believe. She also said to take the Bible over what she thought or believed.

Ellen White called her writings a "lesser light".  I don't know how you would know from my brief sentence what I would "refuse to believe".  

 

[AliAgins]

On 2/28/2016 at 9:06 PM, JoeMo said:

If you are asking if the postings to this subject are all in accordance with the mainstream doctrines of the SDA Church, the answer in my opinion is no.  There are a spectrum of believers on here - some non-SDAs, some generic SDA's, and some card-carrying fundamental SDAs.  All are welcome.  It is the diversity of opinion that generates discussion.  When someone says something different than what we may personally believe, it (hopefully) motivates us to study the subject further rather than simply dismiss the other person's opinion out-of-hand.

Thank you for your response.

[CherylG]

This is what I have seen so far in my studies,

 

In the last days Satan will appear as an angel of light, with great power and heavenly glory, and claim to be the Lord of the whole earth. He will declare that the Sabbath has been changed from the seventh to the first day of the week; and as lord of the first day of the week he will present this spurious sabbath as a test of loyalty to him. Then will take place the final fulfillment of the Revelator's prophecy. [Revelation 13:4-18, quoted.]  {19MR 282.1}

Meeting Satan's Crowning Deception.--Satan came as an angel of light in the wilderness of temptation to deceive Christ; and he does not come to man in a hideous form, as he is sometimes represented, but as an angel of light. He will come personating Jesus Christ, working mighty miracles; and men will fall down and worship him as Jesus Christ. We shall be commanded to worship this being, whom the world will glorify as Christ. What shall we do?--Tell them that Christ has warned us against just such a foe, who is man's worst enemy, yet who claims to be God; and that when Christ shall make His appearance, it will be with power and great glory, accompanied by ten thousand times ten thousand angels and thousands of thousands; and that when He shall come, we shall know His voice (RH Dec. 18, 1888).  {6BC 1105.11}

Revelation 13:4   And they worshipped the dragon {We shall be commanded to worship this being (RH Dec. 18, 1888).  {6BC 1105.11} } which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 

From what I can see so far I believe satan to come and personate Christ before probation closes (Every case is decided from both the dead and the living and God's saints are sealed.)

According to the Bible and the quotes above:

* Satan appears personating Jesus Christ.

*Satan will perform miracles and wondrous signs  to deceive the whole world.

*Satan declares that he has changed the 7th Day Sabbath/Saturday to the 1st Day Sunday. This 1st Day Sunday will become the new Sabbath and Satan declares he is lord of the first day of the week. 

* Satan declares that this change of the sabbath to the first day of the week will be a test of loyalty to him.

SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT... Spirit of Prophecy points us to the details in Revelation,

***Then will take place the final fulfillment of the Revelator's prophecy. [Revelation 13:4-18, quoted.]  {19MR 282.1} ***

* The leaders of the nations will bow and worship Satan personating Christ and a command will come for the whole world to worship this being. Rev 13:4 "And they worshipped the dragon "

* V 5 Satan gives power to the 1st Beast for a period of time 42 months. God will cut short these days. Mathew 24:22 (As E.G White gave reference to this whole passage it is interesting she referenced V5 as taking place in the final fulfillment also in the revelators prophecy. As events unfold we will know soon enough. 

*V6 1st  Beast/Papacy blasphemes the God of Heaven and his name.

* V7 1st Beast/Papacy seeks to make war/persecute God's people for not accepting this false Christ/satan and his false sabbath/Sunday

* Rev 13:11-18 tells us how the 1st Beast will achieve persecution. This will be done by the 2nd Beast/USA

*2nd Beast/USA will make laws/ cause all to worship the 1st Beast/ Papacy and his image/False sunday sabbath

*2nd Beast/ USA will command all the world also to worship the false christ/ Satan.

 

We will not know when probation has closed, except I believe we will know afterwards at some point as darkness covers the whole earth and then 7 plagues fall after probation closes.

 

[Martn]

On 3/2/2016 at 1:02 AM, CherylG said:

Satan declares that he has changed the 7th Day Sabbath/Saturday to the 1st Day

 

This 1st Day ... will become the new Sabbath

Without doubt, a new Global Day is coming. One single, simultaneous "day" for the entire world.

Happening everywhere, in every country, at the same time. (For when God made the Sabbath, it was Sabbath everywhere, at once. Not in different places at different times as so many assume.)

Eliminating the international dateline. An artificial --man-made-- distinction.

All the world will be converted to one calendar and one time zone.

First Day, called Sabbath, won't be either Sunday or Saturday, but both. Sunday in the Old World --opposing the Jews of Israel-- and Saturday in the New World, leading the way.

For when it is Saturday in America, it is Sunday in Europe and the Mideast. (Adventists and others, in America, have actually been keeping Sunday all along, though most have not known this of course. It has been kept hidden from them. Deliberately.)

I had the opportunity, shortly before he died, to meet in person with a remarkable man named Alberto Rivera, the famous Jesuit priest. (I was greatly impressed with his tremendous humility.) I asked him what he thought about Adventists. He said they were good Christians, for the most part, but that they had been infiltrated by (renegade) Jesuit operatives --from the very onset. It was these renegade Jesuits, he told me, who gave the Adventists and others in America their Sabbath ideas, in order to prepare Protestant America for the coming change. In America it is "the Saturday they are after," he told me, "not Sunday." When things finally go down, American Adventists will fall right in line with the global plan. Adventists elsewhere in the world will be misled by them and also embrace the global sabbath, for the most part. Something very much like what happened with the Adventist Church in Germany, under Hitler, will happen globally.

 

[JoeMo]

Wow MCBGM  - I didn't see that coming.  When I told AliAgins above that there were a diversity if opinions out there, I didn't imagine they were THAT diverse.