Barely Adventist

[Gary K]

On 2/13/2017 at 5:36 PM, B/W Photodude said:

While I have in the past posted satire here at ClubAdventist, I think a bit different now.

Since the church is compared to the bride of Jesus, how do you think Jesus feels when satire is used against His bride? Does it fall into a violation of the 3rd commandment? Hopefully, this is not too simplistic, but could you sit next to Jesus and share the humor with Him? It is said sometimes "gallows" humor helps people to reduce stress. Really? There is no other way to "get over it"? Paul said to forbear (to be patient or self-controlled when subject to annoyance or provocation) one another. Just a thought ...

We are agreed. 

[Gary K]

On 2/13/2017 at 8:21 PM, CoAspen said:

Duckbill platypus!

 

I am not quite sure what to make of this.  If it is saying that God is satirical/sarcastic about His own creation I find it offensive.  That God has a sense of humor is displayed in something like the platypus that is for sure, but I do not see God as the type of being who will ridicule and mock that which He Himself has made.  No one who loves what they have created would be that way.  It would be like a human parent who brings a child into the world only to mock and ridicule it for how it looks.  That is someone who would need the board of education applied to them upside their head.

[CoAspen]

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.... God has a sense of humor....

So, lets not get stuffy and huffy!

[phkrause]

54 minutes ago, Gary K said:

Well, someone around here is confused, but I don't think it is me. 

 

I'd say the operative word seems to be "think" don't ya think!!

[Gary K]

14 minutes ago, CoAspen said:

So, lets not get stuffy and huffy!

That would be nice, if it would happen.  However,  you have not said what you meant.  And I will repeat, if your post is an accusation against God I find it offensive.  If it is not, explain yourself.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

oh c'mon now.

The duck-billed platypus was one of God's ways of having fun with His creation.  When explorers first saw it, they thought the platypus to be one of the most ridiculous, yet awesome quirks of nature.  In a way, it *can* be thought of as a satirical creation, because it shows how something that looks ridiculous is actually an endearing creature.  That's one of the things that satire does:  it takes a favored view, either positive or negative, and shows how silly that original view could be.  It doesn't mean the *object* of the satire is silly — just the notions that *we* tend to project onto the object might be silly or illogical.

[Gary K]

6 hours ago, rudywoofs (Pam) said:

oh c'mon now.

The duck-billed platypus was one of God's ways of having fun with His creation.  When explorers first saw it, they thought the platypus to be one of the most ridiculous, yet awesome quirks of nature.  In a way, it *can* be thought of as a satirical creation, because it shows how something that looks ridiculous is actually an endearing creature.  That's one of the things that satire does:  it takes a favored view, either positive or negative, and shows how silly that original view could be.  It doesn't mean the *object* of the satire is silly — just the notions that *we* tend to project onto the object might be silly or illogical.

I do think God created some of the creatures He did as object lessons for us, or in other words, to teach us about ourselves. I hardly see that as Him creating something just to mock it.  What you are talking about is something completely different than I am on this.  You are saying that the fact that a platypus exists might be used by us for satirizing ourselves.  That is in a completely different category than God deliberately creating something just so it could be mocked and ridiculed. 

[Gregory Matthews]

Are we certain that God created every creature that exists today, exactly as we see it today?

Let us remember that the  Earth today  is the result of God giving those in rebellion the opportunity to show what they could create.

 

 

[Outta Here]

On 2/18/2017 at 3:41 PM, Gary K said:

We are agreed. 

Including me, we are three persons agreed.

[B/W Photodude]

There is such a variety of animal life on this earth and much of it "strange." I really don't see any animal as standing out to me as an evidence of God's "humor." I have never really thought of any animal being created to have "fun" with. God seems to enjoy creating a many kinds of life that just amazes me when I stop to contemplate all of his creation. The fact that they are means they belong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-gEx-yFz1c

 

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

if God didn't like humor, He wouldn't have given us the gift of Laughter...

imho

[aka]

Here's a barely-Adventist weighing in...

Do keep up this discussion. Those giving testimony to rejecting satire being used against SDA doctrines, rituals and other related issues are walking the path of righteousness. 

Personally, I will find it a relaxing moment when the topic thread in Humor Section be taken down so we who are of like mind against that thread will be relieved and giving a sigh of relief. 

[Outta Here]

I greatly suspect the subsection for Barely Adventist in the Humor section will ever be removed. The current fake-news from the Barely Adventist website addresses the racism video at Andrews. The fake-news satire is in extremely poor taste. It's a wonder that more people do not leave the Adventist faith when this sort of thing (mockery of a deep-felt plea against racism) is allowed to continue.

 

[aka]

That's a right slant when sizing up the quintessence of B.Adventist reporting.

Fake-news. The Adventist reader becomes over time of reading B.A. reporting desensitized to what truth really is in God's eyes. 

[JoeMo]

4 hours ago, aka said:

That's a right slant when sizing up the quintessence of B.Adventist reporting.

Fake-news. The Adventist reader becomes over time of reading B.A. reporting desensitized to what truth really is in God's eyes. 

Only if you are faithless to begin with.  Those of us who are comfortable with our beliefs can chuckle at the stuff in BA. How many people who read The Onion actually start believing the stuff in there?  Answer - none, unless they have mental issues.  I don't like ALL of what is "reported" in BA; but for the most part it runs from slightly amusing to downright funny.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Parables in the Bible could also be called "fake news"....  It's all in one's perception.

[Outta Here]

I've never read a fake-news parable from the Bible that poked fun at the expense of people who were genuinely hurting.

[bonnie]

Maybe the dislike of "Barely Adventist" is because the same  mockery is used  disguised as humor that some here use to show the absurdity and contempt for those that take some issues more seriously than they do.

Sometimes followed by a "Oh my,did I offend someone,wasn't my intent"  In fact the offense was intentional but to say "Oh I was just kidding" places it back on the one objecting for not having a sense of humor or being shallow and superficial

[JoeMo]

4 hours ago, Aubrey said:

I've never read a fake-news parable from the Bible that poked fun at the expense of people who were genuinely hurting.

Although this isn't a parable; it's a revelation from the Lord.  Sounds pretty sarcastic to me.

Tell us, you idols,  what is going to happen.
Tell us what the former things were, so that we may consider them and know their final outcome.
Or declare to us the things to come,  tell us what the future holds, so we may know that you are gods.
Do something, whether good or bad, so that we will be dismayed and filled with fear. (Is 41: 22-23)

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

 

11 hours ago, aka said:

That's a right slant when sizing up the quintessence of B.Adventist reporting.

Fake-news. The Adventist reader becomes over time of reading B.A. reporting desensitized to what truth really is in God's eyes. 

nobody is required to read the Barely Adventist articles.

And "Fake News" is getting to be a tiresome catch-phrase, here and elsewhere.  Are people really that stupid that they can't determine if a story is a hoax?  (a rhetorical question)

 

6 hours ago, Aubrey said:

I've never read a fake-news parable from the Bible that poked fun at the expense of people who were genuinely hurting.

I don't think I've seen a Barely Adventist article that intentionally "poked fun at the expense of people who were genuinely hurting."

Sorry for the need to inform, but life isn't fair.  People *will* hurt you.  Neither the church nor Christians are perfect.  Hurt and insults are just going to happen.  Intentionally hurting people, of course, is wrong.  But much of the "hurt" that is perceived is not done intentionally by others.  We live inside of ourselves.  We talk to ourselves.  Most of what we perceive is filtered though our own subjective experiences, thoughts and self-talk, as well as what we've unconsciously *pre-determined* might be the nature of an expected or perceived insult.  We really *do* need to take some responsibility for our own hurt feelings, and not automatically assume that the Christian Insult Mafia is hiding under every rock, around every corner, in every story we don't like, and in every post with which we don't agree on a forum.

[CoAspen]

[Gary K]

On 2/21/2017 at 2:40 PM, rudywoofs (Pam) said:

if God didn't like humor, He wouldn't have given us the gift of Laughter...

imho

I agree that God gave us the gift of laughter because He likes to laugh too.  But He laughs with His creation, not at His creation and the difference between the two laughters is immense.

[Gary K]

On 2/23/2017 at 7:12 AM, rudywoofs (Pam) said:

Parables in the Bible could also be called "fake news"....  It's all in one's perception.

That, rudywoofs, is quite a "perception".  So Jesus taught with "fake news"?  In other words, are you saying that Jesus used deceit to teach?  The implications of what you said are large, and I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't really mean that but the implications are there.

[Gary K]

On 2/23/2017 at 7:12 AM, JoeMo said:

Only if you are faithless to begin with.  Those of us who are comfortable with our beliefs can chuckle at the stuff in BA. How many people who read The Onion actually start believing the stuff in there?  Answer - none, unless they have mental issues.  I don't like ALL of what is "reported" in BA; but for the most part it runs from slightly amusing to downright funny.

Joemo,

How funny would you see it if "Barely Adventist" satire targeted your wife and children?  Would you find that really humorous?  Or, would you find the ongoing and never ending attacks to be personally offensive after a while?

[debbym]

On 2/13/2017 at 5:36 PM, B/W Photodude said:

While I have in the past posted satire here at ClubAdventist, I think a bit different now.

Since the church is compared to the bride of Jesus, how do you think Jesus feels when satire is used against His bride? Does it fall into a violation of the 3rd commandment? Hopefully, this is not too simplistic, but could you sit next to Jesus and share the humor with Him? It is said sometimes "gallows" humor helps people to reduce stress. Really? There is no other way to "get over it"? Paul said to forbear (to be patient or self-controlled when subject to annoyance or provocation) one another. Just a thought ...

when we laugh at ourselves and our fears.... it helps protect from the dangers of seriousness.  We are not in control to begin with.  and to laugh at exaggeration of control can be relief comic relief, and a poke at our ego.  seriousness can be a very serious condition, people have died of seriousness.