Waiting for Christmas

[stinsonmarri]

1 hour ago, B/W Photodude said:

Barak Obama played golf every Sunday with Joe Biden who used government aircraft to fly down from Delaware at taxpayer expense to play with the president. And Obama did this during the time the border patrol was putting "children" in cages. But lets not condemn our boy Barak. (You did refer to Trump as a boy once.) Admit it, you hate Trump and anything Obama does is just OK with you.

Sure did but not everyday and while people are dying! Well, let me see I wouldn't go there if I were you. Didn't the Health Secretary and others exploited the taxpayers money? They were flying all over the place on vocations using the government airplanes. Oh, oh, didn't army planes stop in Ireland to Trump's hotel and gassed up at the air station that was going out of business. Now, you know I can put down a lot of stuff about Trump and his cronies abusing taxpayers dollars! Bidden is the President elect he has that right, get over it!

Now, I do love Obama, but you have never heard me say everything he's done is okay. If so show me in my comments. Obama is a man, and he make mistakes and I can own up to them. I told you that I don't hate Trump, I hate the things he does and I have true contempt how he has govern. I know that Putin has something on him and he will sell US secrets to the highest bidder. HE IS A CROOK! I DO NOT LIKE CROOKED PEOPLE, PERIOD. I have said that Nixon did some good things, but he was a crook! But Nixon look like a saint compare to Trump!

Your Historian Wannabe

[bonnie]

See, that the problem with you Bonnie, you did not have to name a country. You could have simple said third world countries that included all ethnic groups. Why Haiti, you knew the country was Black, please give me a break! You know, I am so glad that you give to Haiti but you again, could have said I send my money or givings to a country in the Carribeans, simple.

I was not aware that it was out of bounds to mention a specific country.  I don't feel the need to play by your rules to prove I am not racist. 

. The lie about Ham being an homosexual and the word enlarge in Gen Chapter 9. I dare anyone to go look up the word and does not mean to enlarge. Ham went into the ten because his son was in there. He saw his father was naked and called out to his brothers who were standing right outside the tent entrance. They were told their father did not have any clothes inside of the tent. They came backwards and brought a robe and cover their father. Then the lie that Noah curse Ham, he did not, he curse Canaan and said the he would be servants of servants to his brothers. That's a fact! Only servants to his uncle. Servant and slaves are not the same meaning! Guilty of what? I don't think so! 

You make it very difficult to  have a conversation with you. This has nothing to do with Ham or Gen 9.or Noah etc

White woman, why can't just be a woman. It is not important about your color. What's important should be your giving! Like I said, I respect you for the giving and not because you are White! Giving that any of us do should be from the heart. My giving is known and YAHWEH knows. I am not in competition base on skin color! What I said is Trump is a racist and those who follow him accept what he does and acts like him. Brown children in cages at the border, separated from their parents. Keeping people from SA as immigrants from coming here. This country is base on Immigrants and it's wrong. Your leader wants to put down the votes only in the Black areas.  That's what is wrong with Trump and more!

 

I could have just said woman,perhaps I should have. I said white as the color of someone's skin is so very important to you. I am not looking for your respect or your approval. Whether you consider Trump a racist is completely immaterial to me. I strongly suspect that Biden is a racist with the many questionable comments he has made concerning Obama was a doozy. Had that been Trump the heads of liberals would still be exploding. I do not have to give an accounting for your claim of racism against Trump or my suspicions concerning Biden

 

Your leader wants to put down the votes only in the Black areas.  That's what is wrong with Trump and more! 

 

PLease show me,I would be interested to see your proof as we shouldn't be spreading rumor

 

 

 

 

[bonnie]

. I told you that I don't hate Trump, I hate the things he does and I have true contempt how he has govern. I know that Putin has something on him and he will sell US secrets to the highest bidder. HE IS A CROOK! I DO NOT LIKE CROOKED PEOPLE, PERIOD. I have said that Nixon did some good things, but he was a crook! But Nixon look like a saint compare to Trump!

This is a pretty definite statement. Knowing something as Putin having something on Trump can be backed up with proof by you right?  It might really come as a surprise to some people but their suspicions or their hate or name calling is not all that impressive and convincing to others

 

[Theophilus]

I found this. It is excellent and makes a great deal of sense.

Quote

From this scene of intercourse between Noah and God we have to pass to an event in his history, alas, of a very different character. When Noah—with his three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth—left the ark to become husbandman, he planted a vineyard, as Jewish legend has it, from a slip of the vine that had strayed out of Paradise. But it may boldly be asserted that, except the forbidden fruit itself, none has brought more sin, ruin, and desolation upon our earth. Whether Noah was unacquainted with the intoxicating property of the vine, or neglected proper moderation, the sad spectacle is presented of the aged patriarch, so lately rescued from the flood, not only falling a victim to drunkenness, but exposing himself in that state to the impious and vile conduct of his son Ham. As Luther says, “Ham would not have mocked his father, when overcome with wine, if he had not long before cast from his soul that reverence which, according to God’s command, children should cherish towards their parents.” It is a relief to find the other sons of Noah, so far from sharing their brother’s sin, reverently defending their father from the unnatural vileness of Ham. As we might have expected, the conduct of the brothers received meet reward,—the curse descended on Ham, while a blessing, suited to each, was given to Shem and Japheth. But, in the words of the patriarch, the curse lights specially upon Canaan, the son of Ham, not to the exclusion of his other sons, but probably because as Noah had suffered from his son, so Ham was to experience his punishment in his son; and Canaan may have been specially singled out, either because he fully entered into the spirit of his father, or more probably because of the later connection between Israel and the Canaanites, in whom they would see alike the spirit and the curse of Ham fully realized. In connection with this we mark, that, twice before (Genesis 9:18, 22), when Ham is mentioned, it is added that he was “the father of Canaan.”

https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/908.206#221

(As an aside, I celebrate Christmas, I voted for Biden, and I also don't think politics should be thrown into every post.  )

 

 

[stinsonmarri]

12 minutes ago, bonnie said:

See, that the problem with you Bonnie, you did not have to name a country. You could have simple said third world countries that included all ethnic groups. Why Haiti, you knew the country was Black, please give me a break! You know, I am so glad that you give to Haiti but you again, could have said I send my money or givings to a country in the Carribeans, simple.

I was not aware that it was out of bounds to mention a specific country.  I don't feel the need to play by your rules to prove I am not racist. 

. The lie about Ham being an homosexual and the word enlarge in Gen Chapter 9. I dare anyone to go look up the word and does not mean to enlarge. Ham went into the ten because his son was in there. He saw his father was naked and called out to his brothers who were standing right outside the tent entrance. They were told their father did not have any clothes inside of the tent. They came backwards and brought a robe and cover their father. Then the lie that Noah curse Ham, he did not, he curse Canaan and said the he would be servants of servants to his brothers. That's a fact! Only servants to his uncle. Servant and slaves are not the same meaning! Guilty of what? I don't think so! 

You make it very difficult to  have a conversation with you. This has nothing to do with Ham or Gen 9.or Noah etc

White woman, why can't just be a woman. It is not important about your color. What's important should be your giving! Like I said, I respect you for the giving and not because you are White! Giving that any of us do should be from the heart. My giving is known and YAHWEH knows. I am not in competition base on skin color! What I said is Trump is a racist and those who follow him accept what he does and acts like him. Brown children in cages at the border, separated from their parents. Keeping people from SA as immigrants from coming here. This country is base on Immigrants and it's wrong. Your leader wants to put down the votes only in the Black areas.  That's what is wrong with Trump and more!

 

I could have just said woman,perhaps I should have. I said white as the color of someone's skin is so very important to you. I am not looking for your respect or your approval. Whether you consider Trump a racist is completely immaterial to me. I strongly suspect that Biden is a racist with the many questionable comments he has made concerning Obama was a doozy. Had that been Trump the heads of liberals would still be exploding. I do not have to give an accounting for your claim of racism against Trump or my suspicions concerning Biden

 

Your leader wants to put down the votes only in the Black areas.  That's what is wrong with Trump and more! 

 

PLease show me,I would be interested to see your proof as we shouldn't be spreading rumor

 

 

 

 

You don't just a humble suggestion. Here is some and there some of you conservative papers coming clean after being sued.

 Trump's campaign and his allies have presented no real evidence of widespread voter fraud or other impropriety in any of these cities, and they have faced multiple defeats in court. But the persistence of the president and loyal Republicans has alarmed Black leaders, civil rights activists and historians who see an unprecedented attempt to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters, many of them Black. Npr

Singling out Detroit reflects a broader legal strategy by the Trump campaign to challenge votes in heavily Democratic cities with large concentrations of Black voters, like Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia. Though the Trump campaign has produced no evidence of voter fraud, it is clearly signaling through its strategy that such fraud can only be committed in Democratic areas with large numbers of Black voters. Mother Jones and the Foundation for National Progress

Newsmax’s John Tabacco read a statement on air Monday clarifying that the conservative commentary network’s hosts “never reported as true certain claims” about Smartmatic and Dominion voting machines.

The walk-back comes after Smartmatic sent a letter to Newsmax, One America News Network and Fox News threatening a lawsuit over on-air claims that the company is linked to the voter fraud that outgoing president Donald Trump has baselessly insisted took place during the 2020 election.

He further noted that “neither Dominion nor Smartmatic has any relationship with George Soros,” the billionaire philanthropist, or late Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez, both of whom have been at the center of many recent right-wing conspiracies.

On Friday, Fox Business Network ran a fact-checking segment on “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that was rebroadcasted on Fox News Channel’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine” and “Sunday Morning Futures” through the weekend. Reached for comment, a Fox News spokesperson pointed TheWrap to the fact-check and did not elaborate beyond it. Newsmax

Fox News host Tucker Carlson apologized on Friday after a Georgia news station let him know that he had falsely claimed that a dead man voted illegally in the state.

Even “Fox & Friends,” a warm venue for the president, sounded doubts about his talk of a stolen election. CNN and MSNBC dismissed the claims.

The Trump campaign circulated claims of voter fraud on its social media accounts. Local officials have debunked several of the claims.

Senator Kelly Loeffler’s fervid campaign against her Democratic challenger in Georgia, the Rev. Raphael Warnock, has employed a new deceptive tactic, casting Mr. Warnock, a Baptist preacher, as un-American by falsely attributing a controversial comment to him that was made by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.In a news release distributed on Friday, Ms. Loeffler’s campaign linked to a 2014 flyer showing that Mr. Warnock’s church, Ebenezer Baptist in Atlanta, had hosted Mr. Wright, a controversial Chicago pastor known for his fiery rhetoric. Fox News

If you are suspicious of Biden you have that right. But it would be nice to show why!

Happy Sabbath and Blessings!

[bonnie]

The first time I recall seeing Biden or listening to him was long before Trump or Obama. I felt very bad for him losing his wife and baby daughter to a drunk driver. I believe the phrase was the "truck driver drank his lunch". It was a short time later that I realized he was lying. The family asked that he retract his lie and I don"t believe he did.The death of his daughter and his wife was the fault of his wife. He didnt have anything to forgive the truck driver for as he claimed, That left a bad taste. Then there were all the lies that followed

[bonnie]

Then there is this.......

 

1. ‘Son of b***h got fired’: Joe Biden forced Ukraine to sack ...

   www.rt.com/news/416888-biden-fire-ukrainian...

   Former US vice president Joe Biden boasted that he had a word to say in another state’s internal affairs, admitting to have pressured the Ukrainian government into sacking a prosecutor general in just a few hours. “I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours.

[bonnie]

and this.......

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/499065-lies-damned-lies-and-the-truth-about-joe-biden

 

[stinsonmarri]

44 minutes ago, Theophilus said:

I found this. It is excellent and makes a great deal of sense.

(As an aside, I celebrate Christmas, I voted for Biden, and I also don't think politics should be thrown into every post.  )

 

 

If anyone have read my comments about EGW and racism, they know what I have said. EGW had racist views coming out of the Methodist church. However, she changed over the years just like she did with the Sabbath, pork and many other thing.The Bible does say by beholden you do change and she did!

If you want to celebrate Christmas, you have that right. It is your choice! I have the right not to celebrate it and my reason is that the Bible said to celebrate YAHSHUA'S death. The Bible also said to celebrate HIS resurrection, also. Now, I never read anywhere the Bible the word Christmas, nor did I read that the disciples or the apostles celebrated his birth or called it Christmas. Now, Joe said this:  "Any half-educated person knows that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25."  Now, I would go as far and say anything about someone's education, but I do agree that if you know the truth about Dec 25th, that it is a lie. I do not get it! The Bible says clearly not to bear false witness. That is to lie or to spread a lie. If it is a known lie how can you keep it? That's is what puzzle me and that's where I choose to follow the Bible. Let YAHWEH be THE JUDGE!

Happy Sabbath and Blessings!

[Theophilus]

This is taking time away from the Lord on Sabbath, if you really want to be a stickler, Marri.  We should discuss holy things.

 

[stinsonmarri]

20 minutes ago, bonnie said:

The first time I recall seeing Biden or listening to him was long before Trump or Obama. I felt very bad for him losing his wife and baby daughter to a drunk driver. I believe the phrase was the "truck driver drank his lunch". It was a short time later that I realized he was lying. The family asked that he retract his lie and I don"t believe he did.The death of his daughter and his wife was the fault of his wife. He didnt have anything to forgive the truck driver for as he claimed, That left a bad taste. Then there were all the lies that followed

"Biden said his first wife was killed by a drunken driver," one post says. "Fact check: Wife ran a stop sign and driver that hit her was NOT Drunk." "Biden said his first wife was killed by a drunken driver," one post says. "Fact check: Wife ran a stop sign and driver that hit her was NOT Drunk."

In 2007, Biden, then the vice-presidential nominee, said that a "guy who allegedly … drank his lunch" drove the truck that collided with Neilia Biden’s car. A clip from 2001 showed Biden describing the incident and saying the driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."

Dunn’s family disputed the characterization and a spokesman for Biden said in 2008 that Biden "fully accepts the Dunn family’s word that these rumors were false."

We haven’t found any instances since then of Biden suggesting that Dunn was drunk. Poynter Institute 2020, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization (Politifact); THE FACTS NEWSLETTER 

As, I have said: Biden has made mistakes but he owns up to them. He just like Obama are human beings. There are things I disagree with Bibden especially how he treated Anita Hill. He apologized and he is a man of integrity. He is a true humble loving man of faith. Yes, there are many Catholic just like Biden. There are Protestants and people of all denomination that have faith and show it by their character.

What I condemn is a man who has cheated on all of his wives, and he cheated with two of his wives while being married before marrying them! He stole from his brother's children their heritage. He cheats on his taxes, he said he hated to touch the Republican people, he disdain the military, he cheated on his test, he does not pay people back and he is suckering money from the Republicans for his own gain! He is the biggest liar, he is racist, a whoremonger (cheating and sleeping with playboy bunnies and porno stars. There is so much more that I could run on for quite some time.

[Stan]

just in case you are not aware, I have never seen anyone change their political persuasion on here or on Facebook over conversations/discussions/heatedArguement.

[stinsonmarri]

5 hours ago, bonnie said:

Then there is this.......

 

1. ‘Son of b***h got fired’: Joe Biden forced Ukraine to sack ...

   www.rt.com/news/416888-biden-fire-ukrainian...

   Former US vice president Joe Biden boasted that he had a word to say in another state’s internal affairs, admitting to have pressured the Ukrainian government into sacking a prosecutor general in just a few hours. “I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours.

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son. USA

The facts behind Trump’s bogus accusations about Biden and Ukraine: Trump claims Biden threatened Ukraine to aid his son’s business interests. The facts suggest A whistleblower complaint has led to concerns President Donald Trump attempted to coerce Ukrainian leaders to investigate a potential political rival, former Vice President Joe Biden. That complaint has grown into a scandal: At its heart is a question of whether Trump used the power of his office to attempt to influence a foreign country to meddle in the 2020 election. The VOX

5 hours ago, bonnie said:

and this.......

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/499065-lies-damned-lies-and-the-truth-about-joe-biden

 

Overall, we rate The Hill Least Biased based on editorial positions that are currently balanced and news reporting that is low biased. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to previous opinion columns promoting unproven claims.

The Hill has faced criticism for the hiring of John Solomon, who is described as a strong supporter of President Trump and a conspiracy theorist, with his previous opinion columns under review for false content. Further, it has been reported that owner Jimmy Finkelstein “kept a watchful eye on the newspaper’s coverage to ensure it is not too critical of the President.” MEDIA BIAS FACT CHECK LLC

Peace!

[bonnie]

6 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

"Biden said his first wife was killed by a drunken driver," one post says. "Fact check: Wife ran a stop sign and driver that hit her was NOT Drunk." "Biden said his first wife was killed by a drunken driver," one post says. "Fact check: Wife ran a stop sign and driver that hit her was NOT Drunk."

In 2007, Biden, then the vice-presidential nominee, said that a "guy who allegedly … drank his lunch" drove the truck that collided with Neilia Biden’s car. A clip from 2001 showed Biden describing the incident and saying the driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."

Dunn’s family disputed the characterization and a spokesman for Biden said in 2008 that Biden "fully accepts the Dunn family’s word that these rumors were false."

 

This is getting pretty silly. If the above is an example of Biden taken responsibility for his "mistake"it is about the sorriest excuse for an apology. Coming 6-7 years after the fact? If you think that Biden's knowledge of the accident that killed his wife and child was based on rumor and he was only repeating what he heard.  Unbelievable. From very personal first hand painful experience I can tell you when you lose two family members in a vehicular manslaughter you know the difference between rumor and fact. There is a pretty intensive investigation that follows,and family members are not left with rumors. When my sisters were killed by a drunk driver there wasn't any "rumor". There was fact provided by the authorities. He didnt have to accept the Dunn family's word. That is just plain insulting to the family..

 

[bonnie]

You accuse both Photodude and myself of worship of Trump. You might want to look in the mirror and your "worship" of Biden. He has lied since his first run for the presidency when he had to drop out because of his dishonesty. I am not blind to the faults of Trump. He certainly has them. But I do agree with many of his policies. Now if you want to see that as racist,so be it. I am not going to lose any sleep over your constant beating the racial drum. 

Why I would vote for the likes of Biden escapes me, I don't agree with a single policy put forth by him. His VP choice is frightening to say the least. Not sure why she would even accept as she believes the woman that accused him of sexual misconduct was being truthful

Trump certainly has more than a few issues in that dept but prior to running for the presidency. This country lost the right to beat their pious breast over sexual misconduct after electing Clinton twice.

 

Who you "worship and vote for is strictly your business.  I don't really care. You just have a very irritating habit of making it personal when others disagree with you.

[phkrause]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-lie-wife-killed-drunk-driver/

 

 

[phkrause]

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

[bonnie]

Snopes isn't my go to. You may believe what you posted I don't. I don't believe a man that has buried his wife and daughter will rely on rumors instead of  a State Police investigation.

That might be realistic to you but I don't think it is to most. The State Police cleared the truck driver of ,alcohol, speeding, faulty brakes, For you to believe as you do you have to accept that Biden did not have any contact with the State Police and was ignorant of the truck driver being cleared. That for all those years he relied on rumors.

Nor was there any lawsuit, which would make sense if no one was found in the wrong. As BIden was not a wealthy man, he hadn't been a politician long enough to accumulate wealth, with the expenses he must have incurred I believe like most he would have sued. Biden has a long standing history of lying, this certainly wasn't the only little fib.

Far more important to me is his policies and that of his VP

[Theophilus]

And while I can understand you have a problem with Snopes, and I don't but that is beside the point, I have a big problem with RT, which is "RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news." That is the origin of this report.

https://www.rt.com/news/416888-biden-fire-ukrainian-prosecutor/

[phkrause]

1 hour ago, bonnie said:

Snopes isn't my go to. You may believe what you posted I don't. I don't believe a man that has buried his wife and daughter will rely on rumors instead of  a State Police investigation.

That might be realistic to you but I don't think it is to most. The State Police cleared the truck driver of ,alcohol, speeding, faulty brakes, For you to believe as you do you have to accept that Biden did not have any contact with the State Police and was ignorant of the truck driver being cleared. That for all those years he relied on rumors.

Nor was there any lawsuit, which would make sense if no one was found in the wrong. As BIden was not a wealthy man, he hadn't been a politician long enough to accumulate wealth, with the expenses he must have incurred I believe like most he would have sued. Biden has a long standing history of lying, this certainly wasn't the only little fib.

Far more important to me is his policies and that of his VP

Right of course!! Well I can go to any fact checking site and get pretty much the same results!!

[bonnie]

56 minutes ago, Theophilus said:

And while I can understand you have a problem with Snopes, and I don't but that is beside the point, I have a big problem with RT, which is "RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news." That is the origin of this report.

https://www.rt.com/news/416888-biden-fire-ukrainian-prosecutor/

I am not at all familiar with RT. 

Common sense should tell most that question what Biden knew and didn't  that he was very familiar with the circumstances that took the life of his wife and child. A little hard to believe he dealt with rumor for a couple of decades. My guess is most rational people would deal with the investigative report from the State Police as opposed to rumor. Absolutely' ludicrous that Biden says he will take the word of the Dunn family with access to a State Police investigation. Biden has a proven track record of dishonesty, going back to his college days.

More to the point, I could not ever consider voting for Biden, his policies are as objectionable as his dishonesty. I believe there is a very real chance Biden won't finish out his term, then we have his VP.  She is scary

I certainly have issues with Trump, but I find I agree politically more often than not.

I don't care to attempt to convince someone who to vote for but it is annoying to keep reading every post almost, how racist, how unchristian if you don't agree politically or biblically. Photodude does have  the right idea,

 

[bonnie]

21 minutes ago, phkrause said:

Right of course!! Well I can go to any fact checking site and get pretty much the same results!!

No problem. When they explain how Biden did not know the circumstances of the death of his wife and daughter and could only rely on rumor I will have a tendency to agree with you. Until then common sense tells me he knew exactly what the investigative report by the State Police found. They found no fault

[Theophilus]

I know what you mean about things said being unchristian. The subject is explosive and can bring out the worst in everyone. We have all been overheated in this thread.

My point with RT was because that was where the link you posted upthread came from.

I don't think anything is going to get solved.

BTW, I thought your Christmas photo you posted was lovely. The presents were almost as tall as the tree!

[bonnie]

I didnt realize that. I will have to check with my DIL. She is from Minsk,Belarus.               Christmas at our house is nuts. There are so many of us and now we are adding the g.grands. As crazy as it gets we love every minute of it.

[stinsonmarri]

On 12/26/2020 at 9:18 PM, bonnie said:

This is getting pretty silly. If the above is an example of Biden taken responsibility for his "mistake"it is about the sorriest excuse for an apology. Coming 6-7 years after the fact? If you think that Biden's knowledge of the accident that killed his wife and child was based on rumor and he was only repeating what he heard.  Unbelievable. From very personal first hand painful experience I can tell you when you lose two family members in a vehicular manslaughter you know the difference between rumor and fact. There is a pretty intensive investigation that follows,and family members are not left with rumors. When my sisters were killed by a drunk driver there wasn't any "rumor". There was fact provided by the authorities. He didnt have to accept the Dunn family's word. That is just plain insulting to the family..

 

What so silly is Biden own up to his mistake. Trump lies, hate, a madman, has no empathy. People are dying and all you that take of for him. You see what he does and you treat like a god. You see hol is letting people die, people not this stupid political war that you all covet more than life.  You want to find one thing that Biden has done and blow it like it is the sin of the century. It is remarkable how far all of you will go! How your eyes are so blinded that you have so delusion just like the Bible said. No one hasn't made a mistake, no one. Not, Clinton, Obama, or Biden are do not put anyone of them on a pedal. Trump do not apologize, he has no moral, no empathy, no leadership ability. He is narcissistic, he is a user and all of you have fall for his trap. It is silly that you cannot think of nothing else but him. I was not talking about him on this discussion, you brought him up. The topic had to do with Christmas and all you all do is live and breathe this horrible person, it is sicking!!!! You tried to defend someone who cares nothing about and shows it. Republican are dying, Republicans are unemployed, Republicans are losing their homes, Republicans have to go to the food bank. But you like him do not care truly about a party at all it is about power! This is gonna bring you all down and it will cause you to lose your soul over a man who has not give any of you a dime!

IT IS TIRING, WRECHET, RIDICULOUS, PITIFUL AND TRULY MADDENING! NOT, ANY PRESIDENT I VOTED FOR WILL I EXCHANGE FOR MY SOUL. I SEE THEIR GOODNESS AND THEIR PROBLEMS. What I do for them is pray for them and move on. I do not agree with everything they do but respect their character. Clinton has done a lot of things wrong and shameful. But, he has done somethings good for the country. One thing he has done wrong to his wife, but he stuck with his one wife. ANYONE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. WE ALL FALL SHORT, BUT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO DO EVIL; TRUMP DOES AND THAT IS A FACT! GET OVER IT! HE LOST, YOU VOTED FOR HIM, I DIDN'T AND BIDEN WON, END OF STORY!