Waiting for Christmas

[bonnie]

What so silly is Biden own up to his mistake. Trump lies, hate, a madman, has no empathy. People are dying and all you that take of for him. You see what he does and you treat like a god. You see hol is letting you people die, people not this stupid political war that you all covet more than life.

For someone that is always spewing how christian you are you make some astounding and unfounded accusations, stating as fact your personal opinion. Bet if you did only a brief biblical search you would find some instruction not only against that, but penalty for. You seem to have such a over inflated opinion of yourself that you have assumed a role that is not yours. Do you stop and think before you toss your accusations as fact around? Really think about what you are saying.

If you are truthful and acting within biblical guidelines you will be able to give factual examples where I was guilty of this.  You see what he does and you treat like a god.

You will also be able to confirm, not your skewed opinion, but confirmation of Trump letting people die.

12 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

You want to find one thing that Biden has done and blow it like it is the sin of the century. It is remarkable how far all of you will go! How your eyes are so blinded that you have so delusion just like the Bible said. No one hasn't made a mistake, no one. Not, Clinton, Obama, or Biden are do

I don't believe that repeating that it was the fault of the drunk truck driver for decades was a mistake. Many believe it was simply following a dishonest pattern of Biden's. Biden's dishonesty spans decades, look it up, starting in college.

I am not sure what trap you are stating as fact again. I don't donate politically, I don't campaign, so please point me to the trap you are referring to

 

 The topic had to do with Christmas and all you all do is live and breathe this horrible person, it is sicking!!!! You tried to defend someone who cares nothing about and shows it. Republican are dying, Republicans are unemployed, Republicans are losing their homes, Republicans have to go to the food bank. But you like him do not care truly about a party at all it is about power! This is gonna bring you all down and it will cause you to lose your soul over a man who has not give any of you a dime!

I would think if it were sickening to you, you would have left it alone. I was no longer addressing you.

Of course republicans die as do democrats. Both lose their homes and their jobs.Democrats and republicans both make use of the food bank.

You are again making up accusations and repeating as fact. Maybe it is time to reread your bible. You do not have the right, ability or the divine knowledge to make statements as  do not care truly about a party at all it is about power! This is gonna bring you all down and it will cause you to lose your soul over a man who has not give any of you a dime!

You haven't any thing to say about my salvation. Again stating something as fact that is completely unknown to you.  I think that falls somewhere in "bearing false witness.

I am not sure why I should expect Trump to give me a dime or any money.

IT IS TIRING, WRECHET, RIDICULOUS, PITIFUL AND TRULY MADDENING! NOT, ANY PRESIDENT I VOTED FOR WILL I EXCHANGE FOR MY SOUL. I SEE THEIR GOODNESS AND THEIR PROBLEMS. What I do for them is pray for them and move on. I do not agree with everything they do but respect their character. Clinton has done a lot of things wrong and shameful. But, he has done somethings good for the country. One thing he has done wrong to his wife, but he stuck with his one wife. ANYONE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. WE ALL FALL SHORT, BUT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO DO EVIL; TRUMP DOES AND THAT IS A FACT! GET OVER IT! HE LOST, YOU VOTED FOR HIM, I DIDN'T AND BIDEN WON, END OF STORY!

If it is truly that tiring for you you would have let it drop. There are 9 posts between myself and others, not addressing you. But you were not tired enough to let it rest.

Regardless of your lofty opinion of yourself, you don't have any impact on my salvation. Your biased opinion is not fact.

I will continue to celebrate Christmas and vote republican as long as most of the policies align with my view

Have a good day 

 

 

[phkrause]

3 hours ago, bonnie said:

I don't believe that repeating that it was the fault of the drunk truck driver for decades was a mistake.

It's amazing that you can continue to harp on Biden's dishonesty but seem to be OK with trump's dishonesty!! And again as far as Biden he has apologized at least twice. And it seems you didn't read that fact check article, because it covers that in pretty good detail!!

[bonnie]

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Biden is viewed as almost this paragon of virtue. Hardly true for Trump, nor do I think so. I don't recall defending Trump in all behavior.  I do agree with most of his policies. You may agree with the policies of Biden and believe him to be a honest, virtuous man. I don't.  So I am not left with much of a choice. I read what you posted. It still remains that a man that lost his wife and child, accident investigated by the State Police and found no fault with the truck driver won't rely on rumor for 2-3 decades. The apology went along the lines of  Okay I will take their word for it.   I don't believe it.

The media rarely will ask any tough personal questions of Biden. His is more what his favorite ice cream is.   I am sure you recall the the frothing at the mouth with Trump being interviewed by Bob Woodward.  My goodness it went for days. Now Dr Fauci, the covid saviour volunteered the same info. He didn't give the full story on how bad it could get, he didn't want to alarm people. He is a hero, Trump was blasted by CNN and every dem that could string a sentence together. The favorite of the dems, anonymous sources claim that Trump called service men and women suckers and losers. Proof please. I don't believe it because it was a 3 year old story and no one reported it.  There is no way the media could contain themselves for 3 years with something like that.

You are free of course to believe anything you choose about Biden. I don't believe one word out of his mouth about his son Hunter and being clueless as to what was going on. He repeats quite frequently how proud he is of his son. I have four sons and regardless of what they did I would continue to love them. Proud of a son like Hunter? Nope !! Any man that denies his own child and claims no way could he be the father, is not a man. He is a cowardly, whiny little boy that hides behind daddy's coat tails

But more to the point, the accusations and judgements by one is way out of bounds. 

No call for this.... This is gonna bring you all down and it will cause you to lose your soul over a man who has not give any of you a dime Or this .....   You see what he does and you treat like a god.  etc

Unless of course the accuser has more than bitter, biased contempt and hatred as proof

[bonnie]

NEWS

If you dislike Trump because of what you see as his dishonesty, then you have to have the same aversion to Biden and his dishonesty. Otherwise you are not being truthful. Which is it?

So the choice you have is "whose policies can you or do you support"

The Very Long List Of the Many Times Joe Biden's Been Caught In Major Lies

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By Mark SimoneNov 19, 2020

Biden said in the September 12, 2019 debate: "We didn't lock people up in cages. We didn't separate families. We didn't do all of those things, number one. They did"

• Not true, all those pictures you saw of the cages were taken in 2014 during his time in office.

Joe Biden has repeatedly said he was arrested with Nelson Mandela on the streets of Soweto during a trip to South Africa in the 1970s, when South Africa was under apartheid.

• There is absolutely no truth to this, as Biden was later forced to confess

Biden said on May 22, 2020 in an interview on The Breakfast Club radio show: “The NAACP has endorsed me every time I've run.”

• Not true. The NAACP has never endorsed any candidate

On September 3, 2019 in an NPR interview, referring to the Iraq War, "immediately, the moment it started, I came out against the war at that moment."

• Not true. Biden fully supported the Iraq war and voted for the resolution to go to war

On August 7, 2019 – Joe Biden claimed that Donald Trump "asserted that immigrants would quote, ‘carve you up with a knife’." 

• He never said that about immigrants. He said that MS-13 Gang members were doing that

In a famous video confrontation with a critic, Joe Biden shouted: "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class who had a full academic scholarship. The first year in law school, I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class. And then decided I wanted to stay, went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class. I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school."

• Every single word, every one of those claims is false.

He was caught cheating in school exams, got caught cheating and plagiarizing in Law School and in his political career their was this huge plagiarism scandal:

One of his greatest lies is that on Charlottesville, President Trump said there were good people on the Nazis/White Nationalists side. He said just the opposite. Here are the actual quotes:

"you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.....I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.

Another quote from PresidentTrump's Charlottesville press conference:

“Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Biden continues to repeat this lie. Here is video of a reporter confronting him about it:

Biden has a long history of lying. Here are reports from the 90's by ABC News and CBS News on Biden getting caught lying over and over:

Delaware State University denies Biden was a student after claim he ‘got started’ there

[phkrause]

1 hour ago, bonnie said:

Biden is viewed as almost this paragon of virtue.

By who?? Not one story anywhere I've read that says that!! And definitely not by me, by the way there are no politicians I know that come close!! I will say that must republicans view him as a person that they like working with and believe he has a good reputation and that's from republicans not even democrats!! Anyway we'll see what comes in these next 4 years!!

[B/W Photodude]

2 hours ago, phkrause said:

It's amazing that you can continue to harp on Biden's dishonesty but seem to be OK with trump's dishonesty!! And again as far as Biden he has apologized at least twice. And it seems you didn't read that fact check article, because it covers that in pretty good detail!!

Hardly necessary to go on about Trump's dishonesty. The "drive-by" media does that very well. And of course they have their own lies in the name of news. The saying that "truth lies dead in the streets" (loosely based on Isaiah 59:14) has never been truer than now. At least the campaign promises Trump made have never been accomplished as well by any president in a long long time. You can get past hot air, but promises made and kept are worth their weight in gold.

Funny! Biden apologized twice. Looks like he has a long way to go to finish!

[B/W Photodude]

19 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Trump lies, hate, a madman, ...

Never let an opportunity to trash the President go by! You should apply at CNN!

[B/W Photodude]

On 12/26/2020 at 9:41 PM, bonnie said:

You accuse both Photodude and myself of worship of Trump. You might want to look in the mirror and your "worship" of Biden.

Who you "worship and vote for is strictly your business.  I don't really care. You just have a very irritating habit of making it personal when others disagree with you.

Bonnie, this has been going on for a very long time here on Adventistan. And you are right, she takes it very personal on any who she disagrees with. She even reports Ben Carson to have been a family friend and trashes him! She has repeatedly called me hateful. She has called me names the moderators had to remove. I have posted stuff unrelated to Trump, but she invaded my topic for another Trump hate session. I can't imagine Stan really likes supporting this forum for this kind of stuff.

I have tried to disengage with her but she is relentless in her hatred of Trump and anyone who supports him. So, any discussion with her is going to go nowhere.

I just finished reading a book, which I will review later by Waggoner. But he some fascinating comments to follow:

The Scripture tells us that hatred is murder. "Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer." Moreover, anger is also murder, as shown by the Savior in Matt 5:21. Envy, which is so common, also contains murder in it." So, when criticizing public officials, you must be very careful why and how you do it. I am trying to keep it within the bounds of showing an end-time relevance, however, I am sure I have not always done so.

Further on, Waggoner writes, "The Holy Spirit alone must speak through those who would reprove and rebuke." I am fairly certain that that has not been happening in these Trump-fest hate sessions.

"Each individual has his own conception of the law. Having determined to be justified by the law, he reduces it to the level of his own  mind so that he may be judge. He cannot resist examining his brethren. ... If his critical eye detects one who is not walking according to his rule, he at once proceeds to deal with the offender" Wow! You see a wide variety of viewpoints here regarding the candidates, but how does that fit into the unity that Christ has asked His people to exhibit? And the trashing of character that occurs for the one who supports the opposing candidate runs parallel to those extremists in Congress who have been suggesting political retribution for those who supported the President. That is the stuff of totalitarian regimes on the way to mass murders of citizens!

What is apparently not happening here is this, "As soon as a man is overtaken in a fault, the duty of each one is not straightaway to talk to somebody about him, nor even to go directly to the erring one himself, but to ask himself, "How do I stand?" Am I walking in the Spirit, so that I could restore him and not drive him farther away?"

On 12/26/2020 at 9:41 PM, bonnie said:

His VP choice is frightening to say the least. Not sure why she would even accept as she believes the woman that accused him of sexual misconduct was being truthful

Ol' "Pedo Joe" and the "Mattress Girl" (This is a nickname I have seen many times on the internet)! Biden has been videoed many times inappropriately touching little girls (inappropriate determined by their embarrassment and discomfort). If that had been Trump, it probably would have eclipsed anything else occurring during his presidency. Since none of these girls parents seem to have complained, it seems odd that they sacrificed their daughters for the party or their political position.

The "Mattress Girl" is well known in California for having slept her way to the top in state politics by her affairs with powerful married men in California government. How is that for a role model for young girls to follow. However, seeing some of the videos on TikTok, they got this!

[stinsonmarri]

59 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said:

Never let an opportunity to trash the President go by! You should apply at CNN!

Thanks, that's a good idea. Ladies and gentlemen tonight we will provide how the fake president held up people unemployment benefits of both parties checks. Also we will report over 330 lost their lives because he only care about himself. How's that?

[bonnie]

As much as I mistrust Biden I am afraid he wont be able to finish out his term. I would prefer him to Harris

[Theophilus]

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[stinsonmarri]

7 hours ago, bonnie said:

What so silly is Biden own up to his mistake. Trump lies, hate, a madman, has no empathy. People are dying and all you that take of for him. You see what he does and you treat like a god. You see hol is letting you people die, people not this stupid political war that you all covet more than life.

For someone that is always spewing how christian you are you make some astounding and unfounded accusations, stating as fact your personal opinion. Bet if you did only a brief biblical search you would find some instruction not only against that, but penalty for. You seem to have such a over inflated opinion of yourself that you have assumed a role that is not yours. Do you stop and think before you toss your accusations as fact around? Really think about what you are saying.

If you are truthful and acting within biblical guidelines you will be able to give factual examples where I was guilty of this.  You see what he does and you treat like a god.

You will also be able to confirm, not your skewed opinion, but confirmation of Trump letting people die.

I don't believe that repeating that it was the fault of the drunk truck driver for decades was a mistake. Many believe it was simply following a dishonest pattern of Biden's. Biden's dishonesty spans decades, look it up, starting in college.

I am not sure what trap you are stating as fact again. I don't donate politically, I don't campaign, so please point me to the trap you are referring to

 

 The topic had to do with Christmas and all you all do is live and breathe this horrible person, it is sicking!!!! You tried to defend someone who cares nothing about and shows it. Republican are dying, Republicans are unemployed, Republicans are losing their homes, Republicans have to go to the food bank. But you like him do not care truly about a party at all it is about power! This is gonna bring you all down and it will cause you to lose your soul over a man who has not give any of you a dime!

I would think if it were sickening to you, you would have left it alone. I was no longer addressing you.

Of course republicans die as do democrats. Both lose their homes and their jobs.Democrats and republicans both make use of the food bank.

You are again making up accusations and repeating as fact. Maybe it is time to reread your bible. You do not have the right, ability or the divine knowledge to make statements as  do not care truly about a party at all it is about power! This is gonna bring you all down and it will cause you to lose your soul over a man who has not give any of you a dime!

You haven't any thing to say about my salvation. Again stating something as fact that is completely unknown to you.  I think that falls somewhere in "bearing false witness.

I am not sure why I should expect Trump to give me a dime or any money.

IT IS TIRING, WRECHET, RIDICULOUS, PITIFUL AND TRULY MADDENING! NOT, ANY PRESIDENT I VOTED FOR WILL I EXCHANGE FOR MY SOUL. I SEE THEIR GOODNESS AND THEIR PROBLEMS. What I do for them is pray for them and move on. I do not agree with everything they do but respect their character. Clinton has done a lot of things wrong and shameful. But, he has done somethings good for the country. One thing he has done wrong to his wife, but he stuck with his one wife. ANYONE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. WE ALL FALL SHORT, BUT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO DO EVIL; TRUMP DOES AND THAT IS A FACT! GET OVER IT! HE LOST, YOU VOTED FOR HIM, I DIDN'T AND BIDEN WON, END OF STORY!

If it is truly that tiring for you you would have let it drop. There are 9 posts between myself and others, not addressing you. But you were not tired enough to let it rest.

Regardless of your lofty opinion of yourself, you don't have any impact on my salvation. Your biased opinion is not fact.

I will continue to celebrate Christmas and vote republican as long as most of the policies align with my view

Have a good day 

 

 

Let's get your priority straight, please! I already accepted that you choose to celebrate Christmas and I have moved on. Secondly, I again  never said anything about me being over your salvation. It is you and your unfounded reason because I choose not to celebrate Christmas! I gave you what the Bible said, I will not change from that! I am fine, what is your problem? Let's move on shall we!

Thirdly, if you want to vote Republican, go at it, I am not trying to stop you. But let me make this clear, I am so sick of you and others becoming so angry over Donald Trump. I do not care what Biden did in the past and yes he said somethings that were wrong, period. But, I voted for anyone including Clinton because his views were like mine. I don't agree with everything in the Democratic Party! I do not eat, live, or die over a party period, it has nothing to do with my salvation! When I find a leader no matter what party he is affiliated with lies, cheat, is racist, has no moral then I am against him who break the Commandments of YAHWEH! YOU, PHOTODUDE, JOE and others get all bent out shape, become ridiculously angry over what???? A man who shows all the above attribute not against you or me but against YAHWEH! We are to render to Cesar the things that are Cesar and to ELOHIYM ALL THINGS TO THEM! Can't render or respect a man who hates my guts because I am Black! Can't respect a man who has no respect for none of his wives, can't respect a man who lies, who do not respect women and Oh so much more. You like him great, you voted for him, ok out of sight, you worship him and thank he is chosen, well that's not acceptable but whatever you choose to worship. It is a done deal! Let it go because I will stand on a firm foundation of truth.

If you don't vote for anyone over your soul then you should not become so angry! You, should just accept that he lies, he cheats and the other things he has done. I don't say anyone doesn't make mistake. Since Trump came on the scene it has been a nightmare with Adventist on this forum. 

So, Bonnie just let it go and move on. I will be glad to speak about the Bible and what this forum was about a few years ago!

You have a great day as well! 

[stinsonmarri]

29 minutes ago, bonnie said:

As much as I mistrust Biden I am afraid he wont be able to finish out his term. I would prefer him to Harris

I guess you now you are a prophetess. You people are so unreal!  Biden rides a bike does Trump, oh he just plays golf and rides in a cart. Oh Biden has dementia right! This is so ridiculous Trump is so unhealthy. Have he told you why he went to the hospital and kept it a secret! Nope!

[bonnie]

31 minutes ago, Theophilus said:

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[stinsonmarri]

1 hour ago, B/W Photodude said:

Bonnie, this has been going on for a very long time here on Adventistan. And you are right, she takes it very personal on any who she disagrees with. She even reports Ben Carson to have been a family friend and trashes him! She has repeatedly called me hateful. She has called me names the moderators had to remove. I have posted stuff unrelated to Trump, but she invaded my topic for another Trump hate session. I can't imagine Stan really likes supporting this forum for this kind of stuff.

I have tried to disengage with her but she is relentless in her hatred of Trump and anyone who supports him. So, any discussion with her is going to go nowhere.

I just finished reading a book, which I will review later by Waggoner. But he some fascinating comments to follow:

The Scripture tells us that hatred is murder. "Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer." Moreover, anger is also murder, as shown by the Savior in Matt 5:21. Envy, which is so common, also contains murder in it." So, when criticizing public officials, you must be very careful why and how you do it. I am trying to keep it within the bounds of showing an end-time relevance, however, I am sure I have not always done so.

Further on, Waggoner writes, "The Holy Spirit alone must speak through those who would reprove and rebuke." I am fairly certain that that has not been happening in these Trump-fest hate sessions.

"Each individual has his own conception of the law. Having determined to be justified by the law, he reduces it to the level of his own  mind so that he may be judge. He cannot resist examining his brethren. ... If his critical eye detects one who is not walking according to his rule, he at once proceeds to deal with the offender" Wow! You see a wide variety of viewpoints here regarding the candidates, but how does that fit into the unity that Christ has asked His people to exhibit? And the trashing of character that occurs for the one who supports the opposing candidate runs parallel to those extremists in Congress who have been suggesting political retribution for those who supported the President. That is the stuff of totalitarian regimes on the way to mass murders of citizens!

What is apparently not happening here is this, "As soon as a man is overtaken in a fault, the duty of each one is not straightaway to talk to somebody about him, nor even to go directly to the erring one himself, but to ask himself, "How do I stand?" Am I walking in the Spirit, so that I could restore him and not drive him farther away?"

Ol' "Pedo Joe" and the "Mattress Girl" (This is a nickname I have seen many times on the internet)! Biden has been videoed many times inappropriately touching little girls (inappropriate determined by their embarrassment and discomfort). If that had been Trump, it probably would have eclipsed anything else occurring during his presidency. Since none of these girls parents seem to have complained, it seems odd that they sacrificed their daughters for the party or their political position.

The "Mattress Girl" is well known in California for having slept her way to the top in state politics by her affairs with powerful married men in California government. How is that for a role model for young girls to follow. However, seeing some of the videos on TikTok, they got this!

Prove it!  GUESS WHAT HE IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT! OH WERE OH WHERE HAS OLE DONALD TRUMP GONE?? WHY HE IS GOING TO JAIL AND HE IS NOT PASSING GO, BUT STRAIGHT TO JAIL! WE CAN PROVE IT!

[stinsonmarri]

1 minute ago, stinsonmarri said:

Ben Carson

I know a lot about Ben Carson and his wife Candice and I do not have to prove nothing, IT'S A FACT!

[bonnie]

3 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said:

I guess you now you are a prophetess. You people are so unreal!  Biden rides a bike does Trump, oh he just plays golf and rides in a cart. Oh Biden has dementia right! This is so ridiculous Trump is so unhealthy. Have he told you why he went to the hospital and kept it a secret! Nope!

You make less sense with each post. I was not directing a post to you. Your sarcasm is totally childish. Not sure where half your statements come from. Especially sarcastically guessing I am a prophetess. No Trump didnt share with me why he was in the hospital. I am sure you know.  Whatever I am glad he recovered. How wonderful Biden rides a bike. But I dont really care.

[Gustave]

On 12/18/2020 at 3:36 PM, stinsonmarri said:

I would like someone to please show me where doe it say in the Bible the word Christmas. Do you know anything about the Celtic and why they use the mistletoe. What is wreath mainly used for? If you know why do we as SDA put the symbol of death on the church doors and in the church period? Why are we giving gift and toys to each other if about the SAVIOUR, which is not! More money is spend this time of year for WHAT! 

Where in the Bible does YAHSHUA say to worship and remember HIS birth? The reason for COVID 19 maybe is to was those who know the truth but follow jingle bells, Santa clause, deer that suppose to fly. These are all a delusion and SDA have left truth to be lies. When you accept the world you become the world!

Don't you think it time to lift up the Word in the Bible and it only!

Happy Sabbath!

I don't think you'll find in the Bible the words "Investigative Judgement", "present truth" or any other SDA distinctive teaching either. Are you willing to condemn those things because you can't find the word in the Bible? 

[stinsonmarri]

8 hours ago, Gustave said:

I don't think you'll find in the Bible the words "Investigative Judgement", "present truth" or any other SDA distinctive teaching either. Are you willing to condemn those things because you can't find the word in the Bible? 

We never said that these words were in the Bible. If so show reference to them. Now if you want to see the action of investigated judgment. Read Chapter 4-6 of Revelation.

Blessings

[B/W Photodude]

13 hours ago, bonnie said:

As much as I mistrust Biden I am afraid he wont be able to finish out his term. I would prefer him to Harris

The extreme leftists are already plotting how to get rid of him. Notice how all of a sudden, now that they think Biden will be president, that they are suddenly interested in investigating Hunter Biden and when he falls, he will take Joe with him!

They have no morals when it comes to trashing people to achieve their goals. They are also trying to remove Diane Feinstein from some of her positions in committees be cause she spoke respectfully of a "red side" senator! This is how bad the philosophy of utilitarianism gets. The end justifies the means and even the slaughter of millions is acceptable.

The whole end of the age comes with an abstract sense of horror watching these events unfold. And it hasn't even gotten real yet.

[B/W Photodude]

12 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Prove it!  GUESS WHAT HE IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT! OH WERE OH WHERE HAS OLE DONALD TRUMP GONE?? WHY HE IS GOING TO JAIL AND HE IS NOT PASSING GO, BUT STRAIGHT TO JAIL! WE CAN PROVE IT!

Keep on posting stupid. Stupid is as stupid does!

[B/W Photodude]

10 hours ago, Gustave said:

I don't think you'll find in the Bible the words "Investigative Judgement", "present truth" or any other SDA distinctive teaching either. Are you willing to condemn those things because you can't find the word in the Bible? 

A hundred years ago many diseases did not "exist." Why? Because they had not been named. So, through research and the development of the medical arts, many syndromes came to be recognized as distinctly different conditions and as such were given a name. Now, historians with a medical background can go back into historical records and note that certain individuals were afflicted with diseases that in their day did not even have a name and were unrecognized.

In the theological world, in the study of Scripture, putting verses and ideas together, certain things can be recognized and named. The "symptoms" were always there, Bible scholars just needed to reognize and name them. Things like "investigative judgement" and "last generation theology" are a couple of them where the pieces are all there in Scripture, they just needed to be recognized and named. There is nothing new in these two beliefs other than the name.

As much as I love SDA theology, I also find others who study Scripture to be finding incredibly interesting facts regarding the history of the Bible and current events, of which I cannot find a way to fault them. By fault, I mean to compare them to Scripture (think Bereans!) to see if they are so and they seem to be very so!

[JoeMo]

15 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

YOU, PHOTODUDE, JOE and others get all bent out shape, become ridiculously angry over what????

In case you haven't noticed, I have made no comments on this subject for days.  I don't allow racists like you to bother me any more.  I just ignore you and your self righteous "expertise".

To me it no longer matters who is president.  God has a timeline that includes an "appointed time" for His return.  Yashua is my King, President, Lord - whatever you want to call Him.  Neither Biden nor Trump will change that, nor will they accelerate or decelerate the appointed time of Christ's return.

[Gustave]

4 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

We never said that these words were in the Bible. If so show reference to them. Now if you want to see the action of investigated judgment. Read Chapter 4-6 of Revelation.

Blessings

Where did a Christian writer ever claim that the word Christmas was in the Bible? 

If you want to see the Biblical concept of celebrating a religious holiday that's NOT found in your Bible simply turn to John 10,23.

Ironically that verse also disputes an investigative judgement that's hinged with the Sanctuary being cleansed after the birth of Christ.

 

[Gustave]

2 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

A hundred years ago many diseases did not "exist." Why? Because they had not been named. So, through research and the development of the medical arts, many syndromes came to be recognized as distinctly different conditions and as such were given a name. Now, historians with a medical background can go back into historical records and note that certain individuals were afflicted with diseases that in their day did not even have a name and were unrecognized.

In the theological world, in the study of Scripture, putting verses and ideas together, certain things can be recognized and named. The "symptoms" were always there, Bible scholars just needed to reognize and name them. Things like "investigative judgement" and "last generation theology" are a couple of them where the pieces are all there in Scripture, they just needed to be recognized and named. There is nothing new in these two beliefs other than the name.

As much as I love SDA theology, I also find others who study Scripture to be finding incredibly interesting facts regarding the history of the Bible and current events, of which I cannot find a way to fault them. By fault, I mean to compare them to Scripture (think Bereans!) to see if they are so and they seem to be very so!

I would agree with you - Doctrine absolutely" develops" over time - true doctrine never "mutates".