True-believer Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 I just saw this video a few minutes ago for the first time. Dancing in the church, the sda church at that. Praise dancing has been around at least 20 years, in some churches. I reemember another occasion (this was a few years ago) a lot of up tempo contemporary gospel music was being played. This lady got up and started dancing in the aisle. Not long afterwards the Pastor smote her verbally, in an indirect way. At least that was my take on it. My opinion? I donno, Matt 7:1, i guess. I love dancing to Praise music, David danced before the Lord. In Church and wherever we may be we are expected to dance before the Lord. If you need practice in how to dance just go to a few pentecostal churches--because I have never seen it in SDA churches yet. Or go to a few nightclubs for some practise dancing. Quote Luke 4:19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Moderators John317 Posted August 5, 2009 Moderators Posted August 5, 2009 I love dancing to Praise music, David danced before the Lord. Yes, David danced before the Lord. What was his dancing like-- did Michal describe his dancing accurately?-- and would it be OK if we dance in church like she said David danced? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators John317 Posted August 5, 2009 Moderators Posted August 5, 2009 I love dancing to Praise music,... If you need practice in how to dance just go to a few pentecostal churches--because I have never seen it in SDA churches yet. "Yet," you say. Something tells me that it won't be long when you will soon see them in at least some our churches, if they aren't already there. Could you give a brief description of the kind of dancing you're talking about? There are many different types even in the various churches. Quote: Or go to a few nightclubs for some practise dancing. I used to go to the nightclubs. I stopped when I became an SDA. I can't imagine going back. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
True-believer Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 Originally Posted By: True-believer I love dancing to Praise music,... If you need practice in how to dance just go to a few pentecostal churches--because I have never seen it in SDA churches yet. "Yet," you say. Something tells me that it won't be long when you will soon see them in at least some our churches, if they aren't already there. Quote: Or go to a few nightclubs for some practise dancing. I used to go to the nightclubs. I stopped when I became an SDA. I can't imagine going back. Yes John317, I am joking about going into nightclubs to practise how to dance, but I am not joking about going to nightclubs to evangelise and handout Bibles to them and even hand out some Steps To Christ books there. I dance all the time in my Pentecostal Church, but in the other Churches like Baptist and SDA, we need to be more conservative and peaceful and settled because they can't handle dancing before the Lord. Hopefully oneday dancing will eventually will enter into the SDA and Baptist Churches then we can sing with all our might the following song: "I will enter into His gates with thanksgiving in my heart." "I will enter His courts with PRAISE." Lets dance before the LORD and be glad and rejoice. Philippines 4:4 says: "Rejoice in The Lord ALWAYS, again I say, REJOICE." Heaven is going to be one big party for all of us True Christians, so lets dance and tell the world that we as Christians do know how to have FUN--good clean FUN, dancing before The Lord. Quote Luke 4:19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
True-believer Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 "Yet," you say. Something tells me that it won't be long when you will soon see them in at least some our churches, if they aren't already there. To answer your question John317, is it ok to dance how David danced before the Lord? My answer from the Bible is "YES", yes we can dance like David did. Please read my notes on this topic below: Should we feel shameful of our bodies when we’re naked??? In the Garden of Eden, God made the very first male and female for this planet earth, Adam and Eve, and from them two the whole world became inhabitant with people, and Adam & Eve were both naked, and they felt no shame. They are our very first parents on this planet. Genesis 1:27 says, So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Genesis 2:25 says, And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. In the beginning of the world, about six thousand years ago, there was no clothing for Adam and Eve to wear, and that’s because you didn’t need any clothing back in those days because there was no shame of any naked body, they didn’t even think those bad thoughts, because it was very pure. Shame started to come in to the world through the very first sin, and that sin was not obeying God but the serpent instead. In Genesis 3:9-10, God is calling to Adam to come to Him, but Adam quickly hid himself because he felt afraid and very shameful of his naked body, and later made himself some coverings out of leaves. In Isaiah 20:2-3 it states that God commanded Isaiah to take off his clothes and sandals, and walk all over Egypt and Ethiopia completely naked for a sign and a wonder against those two countries just listed above. In Job 1:20-21 it states that Job arose and tore his robe, so he is naked, and he shaved his head, and then he fell down to the ground and began to worship God naked by: “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, And naked shall I return there. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; Blessed be the name of the Lord.” In verse 22 following on it states that Job did not sin or charge God with wrong doing. So according to the above Scripture reverences, we can be completely naked and worship God at the same time, and not sin or do any wrong. Hebrews 4:13 says that no one is hidden from God, but everyone is completely naked before His sight, we are all open and naked before Him. So, according to that, we can be naked and while we are naked we can either keep our thoughts and intentions solely on our Lord Jesus Christ, or you can let your thoughts go astray and you can fall into sin and be deviled. I urge you all that whenever you are naked, do not let your thoughts go astray, but instead focus on Jesus, on while your naked think holy and pure thoughts, and read the Bible and also sing songs of praise to Him. So we can be fully clothed or we can be fully naked, but whatever the case may be, do it all to the glory of God, and stay undefiled, pure and holy. Quote Luke 4:19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
GreatLakesGramma Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 David danced in the procession that was transporting the ark to Jerusalem. There is no Biblical record that he or anyone else ever danced in any way within the courtyard of the tabernacle or the temple. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
Woody Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 Quote: So we can be fully clothed or we can be fully naked, but whatever the case may be, do it all to the glory of God, and stay undefiled, pure and holy. I'm already feelin' so liberated. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators John317 Posted August 5, 2009 Moderators Posted August 5, 2009 Originally Posted By: John317 "Yet," you say. Something tells me that it won't be long when you will soon see them in at least some our churches, if they aren't already there. To answer your question John317, is it ok to dance how David danced before the Lord? My answer from the Bible is "YES", yes we can dance like David did. Please read my notes on this topic below: Should we feel shameful of our bodies when we’re naked??? In the Garden of Eden, God made the very first male and female for this planet earth, Adam and Eve, and from them two the whole world became inhabitant with people, and Adam & Eve were both naked, and they felt no shame. They are our very first parents on this planet.......... So we can be fully clothed or we can be fully naked, but whatever the case may be, do it all to the glory of God, and stay undefiled, pure and holy. So are you saying that you would be OK with SDA showing off naked bodies or exhibiting private parts during worship services? I am not ashamed of the body. Before I converted to Christ, I used to go to a nudist colony in Reche Canyon and to the nude beaches in La Jolla. So it is not a question of being ashamed of the body or of being shocked at the sight of naked people. But my moral standards are somewhat different now than they were then. I am asking seriously about what SDAs are thinking today when it comes to dancing in the SDA church. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators John317 Posted August 5, 2009 Moderators Posted August 5, 2009 Yes John317, I am joking about going into nightclubs to practise how to dance, but I am not joking about going to nightclubs to evangelise and handout Bibles to them and even hand out some Steps To Christ books there. OK but that is a different subject entirely. Quote: I dance all the time in my Pentecostal Church, but in the other Churches like Baptist and SDA, we need to be more conservative and peaceful and settled because they can't handle dancing before the Lord. Hopefully oneday dancing will eventually will enter into the SDA and Baptist Churches then we can sing with all our might the following song:"I will enter into His gates with thanksgiving in my heart." Could you describe what kind of dancing you do and what kind of dancing you'd like to see in the SDA church? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Parade Orange Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 AUBREY! thanku for posting 'where is Matt' all those places all those cultures all that architecture I see GOD in the earth sand sea or land i see people demostrating JOY u can be sure we will be dancing on the SEA OF GLASS Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 ... and thanku for posting the guy happy at work! whether we believe in dancing or not or where we should or shouldnt dance. what a testimony to the people around us if they see us enjoying our menial tasks this much and if they ask we can TESTIFY of GODS GOODNESS! HE HAS PUT A SONG IN OUR HEARTS the feet may show it! Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
guibox Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 I am not ashamed of the body. Before I converted to Christ, I used to go to a nudist colony in Reche Canyon and to the nude beaches in La Jolla. You??? You????? I don't think I can see even the most liberal of us on this forum having had done this, never admitting to it, and it turns out that the one person who has is......YOU???? Quote www.corbel.theacaistory.com
Parade Orange Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 sometimes,u will find, its the old conservatists among us have the very colourful pasts! Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Neil D Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 of that, I have no doubt...... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Woody Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: John317 I am not ashamed of the body. Before I converted to Christ, I used to go to a nudist colony in Reche Canyon and to the nude beaches in La Jolla. You??? You????? I don't think I can see even the most liberal of us on this forum having had done this, never admitting to it, and it turns out that the one person who has is......YOU???? Not really.Some people will swing from one extreme to another. I've heard of this kind of thing before. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators John317 Posted August 6, 2009 Moderators Posted August 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: John317 I am not ashamed of the body. Before I converted to Christ, I used to go to a nudist colony in Reche Canyon and to the nude beaches in La Jolla. You??? You????? I don't think I can see even the most liberal of us on this forum having had done this, never admitting to it, and it turns out that the one person who has is......YOU???? Nothing funny about it, guibox. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Administrators Gail Posted August 6, 2009 Administrators Posted August 6, 2009 I thank God for His redeeming power! Yes, some of us have had colourful pasts, but we need not dwell on where we were but where and how God has brought us. It pains me also when people (and I suspect that those who do it have never partaken) mock those who drink or dance or whatever. I've seen it among church people and I think to myself, If only you KNEW that kind of life! You wouldn't be so quick to mock... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Members phkrause Posted August 6, 2009 Members Posted August 6, 2009 HaHa, good one Parade Orange. :) pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators John317 Posted August 6, 2009 Moderators Posted August 6, 2009 sometimes,u will find, its the old conservatists among us have the very colourful pasts! Uh huh. Also the thing about these screens is that they are only two dimensional. There's just a whole lot you can't send or communicate over the net, and some people get the very mistaken impression they know all about you just 'cause they can read. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
minky Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 I believe that a Wedding should be a celebration. Isnt it ok to dance as long as its with your spouse? Quote
True-believer Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 Originally Posted By: True-believer To answer your question John317, is it ok to dance how David danced before the Lord? My answer from the Bible is "YES", yes we can dance like David did. Please read my notes on this topic below: Should we feel shameful of our bodies when we’re naked??? In the Garden of Eden, God made the very first male and female for this planet earth, Adam and Eve, and from them two the whole world became inhabitant with people, and Adam & Eve were both naked, and they felt no shame. They are our very first parents on this planet.......... So we can be fully clothed or we can be fully naked, but whatever the case may be, do it all to the glory of God, and stay undefiled, pure and holy. [/quote'] So are you saying that you would be OK with SDA showing off naked bodies or exhibiting private parts during worship services? I am not ashamed of the body. Before I converted to Christ, I used to go to a nudist colony in Reche Canyon and to the nude beaches in La Jolla. So it is not a question of being ashamed of the body or of being shocked at the sight of naked people. But my moral standards are somewhat different now than they were then. I am asking seriously about what SDAs are thinking today when it comes to dancing in the SDA church. Firstly, NO it isn't ok for us human beings to show off our naked bodies or exibiting our private parts during PUBLIC WORSHIP SERVICES. It is ok though to do it in the privacy of your own home or on nudist beaches--in which we have one nude beach here in South Australia, maybe we could have a public Church nude worship service on the nude beach just praising God the way that He made us. Secondly, I am not ashamed of my body either, because it isn't my body, this body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Thirdly, I have never been nude to a nudist beach. Fourthly, what I think about dancing in the Church is awesome and there should be more of it, and also with more pentecostals entering into the sda church, we'll teach you all how to get very charisatic and very pentecostal and up and dancing within the sda church on sabbath, each sabbath, and turning the meetings into Celebration Services and NOT boring old traditional type meetings. Quote Luke 4:19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Neil D Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 OOOOOooooooooooh boy..... According to some of you all, I can dance nude....or I can NOT dance at all....If I choose to dance, I can dance nude AND in the privacy of my home AND with my spouse..... According to Jesus, the life that He gives is an "abundant life"...To ME, an 'abundant life' would include dancing...for joy... As far as I am concerned, ALL DANCING is joyful. nude or otherwise...and I ONLY do non-nude dancing....'cuz I don't look that good dancing nude,....no matter WHAT my spouse might say! As as for the video at the begining of this thread, dancing done IN CHURCH, and DURING A WEDDING is a sign of an abundant life...You'all who have never done dancing in a joyful mannor are loosing out... nuff said. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Woody Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 Quote: nuff said. So the rest of us are not able to say anymore on the topic? Is this thread closed? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Dr. Rich Posted August 10, 2009 Posted August 10, 2009 Neil wrote: "You'all who have never done dancing in a joyful mannor are loosing out..." I agree 100% Neil. My dance partner and I once won a country swing dance contest. It was taboo to dance growing up, but after my divorce, I made a bet that no one could teach me how to swing dance. I lost. some of the best moments of my life were dancing. Quote
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