If all you can do is argue...

[Stan]

If all you can do is argue with folks, you will soon be "booted off the island."

Some may want to take the first step..

[Neil D]

If all you can do is argue with folks, you will soon be "booted off the island."

Some may want to take the first step..

So, who do you think is in the market for a life raft?

....or should I forgo the inquires and go to direct marketing?

Being the marketing opportunist, I thought I would ask.....

[olger]

CAPITALIST !!

g

[Twilight]

How do we define "argue"?

[Stan]

HEY ALL

NOW WERE ARE NOT TO ARGUE ON THIS SITE HERE

dgrimm60

The statement was for those folks who just argue...

[Bravus]

Ack, yes, please let us read carefully to avoid the 'no theology' debacle all over again!

We're free to argue as long as we do other things too.

[Dr. Shane]

Let's not argue about this.

[Bravus]

[Woody]

Argue: Pronunciation [ahr-gyoo] Show IPA verb, -gued, -gu⋅ing.

Use argue in a Sentence

–verb (used without object) 1. to present reasons for or against a thing: He argued in favor of capital punishment.

2. to contend in oral disagreement; dispute: The Senator argued with the President about the new tax bill.

–verb (used with object) 3. to state the reasons for or against: The lawyers argued the case.

4. to maintain in reasoning: to argue that the news report must be wrong.

5. to persuade, drive, etc., by reasoning: to argue someone out of a plan.

6. to show; prove; imply; indicate: His clothes argue poverty.

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Origin:

1275–1325; ME < AF, OF arguer freq. of arguere to prove, assert, accuse (ML: argue, reason), though L freq. form attested only in sense “babble, chatter”

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Stan ...

I agree that we have seen far too much "babble" on this site.

And like dgrimm said. You gotta do what ya gotta do.

[Liz]

Perhaps it is malicious arguing that Mr. Stan no longer wants?

[Woody]

Are you arguing about this Liz?

[Twilight]

Perhaps it is malicious arguing that Mr. Stan no longer wants?

That would be sensible, but even that desire is probably, (whilst commendable) not realistic on an internet chat board. :-)

[Woody]

Well .... we all do need a little Grace don't we. Praise God we have the merits of Jesus to save us.

[Liz]

Are you arguing about this Liz?

I would never argue with one of my most favorite uncles.

[Woody]

Ahhh. Now b careful. This thread is about arguing .... not sweetness.

[Dr. Rich]

This forum would not exist without argument. Real argument is vital for every blog, even if it is unilateral for a one sided blog would be argument for that side only. Teaching and preaching all involve argument. Satan was allowed to present his side in heaven.

But name calling or making fun of people's argument makes void real argument. Has anyone tried to argue with the IRS? I have and it is not pleasent. No matter how much reasonable evidence I provided, they refused to even look at it--saying it's there way or the highway.

Our courts WERE set up (they don't act that way now) for argument. Lawyers learn the art of argument. Every point or issue must be backed up with reasonable evidence that the court will allow. There are rules for evidence just as there are rules for the court itself. One of those rules is that hearsay evidence will not be allowed--for good reason I might add.

Now I am not saying that Stan should run this forum like a court, but even the court will not allow fighting among the parties. If someone has an argument, good or bad, and if anyone wants to respond, they should respond to the argument and not the party. We have all been guilty of responding with a short response like "That's stupid"-all the while not providing evidence supporting why they think 'it is stupid'.

Twilight's question on what is meant by 'argue' is a good one for the above reasons.

Dr. Rich (SDA)

[Gail]

Putting forward one's opinion is not the same as continually arguing and not getting anywhere.

If arguing was so good, then why does it drive people away instead of drawing them in? And that is the situation we have here.

[Dr. Rich]

Gail, if argument was to get more people on your side, then Jesus was not very good at it because they wanted to kill Him just because of His argument. Take a look at the sermon on the mount. It drove those away who refused to proved any evidence against what Jesus said. If one is really honest with himself, he will keep an open mind to receive new truth provided in a manner which can't be rebutted by evidence otherwise.

[Stan]

When people come on, and they have to defend every post they make, usually done by 3-4 people on here, they just leave.

Surly people can also make inspiration statements and thoughts, arguing all the time just drains..

Thinks that can be posted

Post you personal testamony

Post effective reaching out

Post blessing you have given/received or heard about

Post SOP and Bible text that you read today that meant something to you

There are all kinds of other idea, that don't involve correcting folks

Post humor, little know legal facts that are funny.

Many things can contribute to the enjoyment of others..

Not saying people should never disagree, but to deal with the issue rather than the people.

On another board, I asked a Church of Christ Pastor why they did not allow musical instruments, I accept their thinking with out trying to correct them, others, however jumped all over them...

[Twilight]

When people come on, and they have to defend every post they make, usually done by 3-4 people on here, they just leave.

Surly people can also make inspiration statements and thoughts, arguing all the time just drains..

Thinks that can be posted

Post you personal testamony

Post effective reaching out

Post blessing you have given/received or heard about

Post SOP and Bible text that you read today that meant something to you

There are all kinds of other idea, that don't involve correcting folks

Post humor, little know legal facts that are funny.

Many things can contribute to the enjoyment of others..

Not saying people should never disagree, but to deal with the issue rather than the people.

On another board, I asked a Church of Christ Pastor why they did not allow musical instruments, I accept their thinking with out trying to correct them, others, however jumped all over them...

There is always a spirit of controversy around the gospel, always has been. We are in a state of war. :-)

[Dr. Rich]

Isn't there a difference between a blog and a bulletin board or even a question and answer page? I find it interesting that those in our government are telling us that those who disagree with their proposed health care are troublemakers. Stan, is the same thing you think about those who provide statements or questions here that are not main stream SDA or even Christian?

[Gail]

Gail, if argument was to get more people on your side, then Jesus was not very good at it because they wanted to kill Him just because of His argument. Take a look at the sermon on the mount. It drove those away who refused to proved any evidence against what Jesus said. If one is really honest with himself, he will keep an open mind to receive new truth provided in a manner which can't be rebutted by evidence otherwise.

If you notice how Jesus presented Himself, He did not get into disputes. He certainly had information that was piercing to some, but He did not spend (waste?) His time in long, heated discussions.

[Stan]

Actually Dr Rich, am for a"new Ideas and thoughts' section, we tried it in the past and the citizens started to form a coup... It caused too many folks to leave...

If it was a private one, that was open to everyone who wanted such, that could work.

[olger]

Originally Posted By: dgrimm60

HEY ALL

NOW WERE ARE NOT TO ARGUE ON THIS SITE HERE

dgrimm60

The statement was for those folks who just argue...

IS not!

Ooops..

[phkrause]

Absolutely he is dgrimm. :):)

pk