Jack Sequeira - Teacher of new light or Teacher of Error?

[Twilight]

I have been doing a little bit of background research on this retired Pastor's teachings.

His main emphasis seems to be to:

1. Diminish the importance of the writings of Ellen White.

2. Teaching we are "justified" and do not need "sanctification".

3. Teaching that Jesus changes our Characters when He comes.

4. The atonement was finished at the Cross.

This is my initial observations from a brief assessment.

So is it "new light" for Gods people, or "old error" that has been dusted off and presented to a confused Adventist Church...?

Mark

[Twilight]

He also teaches that the "Sunday Law" is not the test, but rather that "being in Christ" is the test to come on God people.

That "being in Christ" is being "saved in our sins"...

[Guest]

It's a good thing Robert isn't here to see this. I kinda wish he was though.

I believe it is "old error" that has been dusted off and presented to a confused Adventist Church.

[phkrause]

I don't believe he is a teacher of any new light, just a spin of old light. And he can't be a false prophet because he's never been considered a prophet in the first place.

pk

[Guest]

This thread would get Robert put out for another 90 days.

"ol Serequel" It used to make Robert mad when I called him that. I probably shouldn't have done it. Serequel is a drug that makes you sleepy.

[Twilight]

I don't believe he is a teacher of any new light, just a spin of old light. And he can't be a false prophet because he's never been considered a prophet in the first place.

pk

Agreed, but it seems some treat him like a prophet.

Anyone teaching "truth" is prophecying in one sense...

:-)

[Twilight]

I don't believe he is a teacher of any new light, just a spin of old light. And he can't be a false prophet because he's never been considered a prophet in the first place.

pk

I have changed the title. :-)

[Twilight]

It's a good thing Robert isn't here to see this. I kinda wish he was though.

I believe it is "old error" that has been dusted off and presented to a confused Adventist Church.

I wonder if it is presented to "confuse" the Adventist Church?

[Twilight]

I don't believe he is a teacher of any new light, just a spin of old light. And he can't be a false prophet because he's never been considered a prophet in the first place.

pk

I just noticed you said a "spin of old light", does that mean you agree with his teachings?

Mark :-)

[Twilight]

This thread would get Robert put out for another 90 days.

"ol Serequel" It used to make Robert mad when I called him that. I probably shouldn't have done it. Serequel is a drug that makes you sleepy.

Ahhh.... :-)

[Guest]

Robert told me he was glad he left the SDA church, and I believe this man is part of the reason why.

[Twilight]

Robert told me he was glad he left the SDA church, and I believe this man is part of the reason why.

I understand that he encourages his students to mix with other denominations to "stretch" their understanding etc...

I just see "once saved always saved" in the teachings, pure and simple as that.

Mark

[Twilight]

An interesting read here, not sure if I agree with the spirit of it completely, but some interesting thoughts:

http://www.sdadefend.com/MINDEX-S/J-Sequerawm-501-506.pdf

[Woody]

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I just see "once saved always saved" in the teachings, pure and simple as that.

This is simply false. He does not teach that. This is a common mantra by those who want to stomp on Truth. Make lots of accusations without proof or actually asking him. Can you imagine.

And no ... he is not a prophet and no one has said he is. Again ... this is just another way to smear truth. And it is underhanded I might add.

[Twilight]

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I just see "once saved always saved" in the teachings, pure and simple as that.

This is simply false. He does not teach that. This is a common mantra by those who want to stomp on Truth. Make lots of accusations without proof or actually asking him. Can you imagine.

And no ... he is not a prophet and no one has said he is. Again ... this is just another way to smear truth. And it is underhanded I might add.

Saying that we are saved in our sins and it was all "completed" at the cross is "once saved always saved".

If I have mistaken his teaching and that is not what he is teaching, then please point it out.

As to the prophet part...

I agree that it was used inadvisedly, which is why I changed the title when it was pointed out. Unfortunately the title remains on the posts after, which is a flaw of the board, so I cannot do anything about that.

Mark

[Twilight]

Redwood

How did you become a follower of Jack's teachings?

[Woody]

Again .... trying to smear the man. I am not a follower of ANY man's teachings. I am a follower of Christ. I have several of Jack's books and can find no error in them however. If by reading his books I become a follower of the man ... WOW !!

[Twilight]

Again .... trying to smear the man. I am not a follower of ANY man's teachings. I am a follower of Christ. I have several of Jack's books and can find no error in them however. If by reading his books I become a follower of the man ... WOW !!

If the man teaches differently to Christ and the bible, and someone cannot discern that, then are they not a follower of the "man" and his teachings?

If, as you say, there is no error in his teachings, then he is inspired.

My curiousity is aroused however, because all I can see is error in his teachings, he directly contradicts the bible and SOP. My question is, how did you come to read his books, do you know him personally?

Mark

[Twilight]

Again .... trying to smear the man. I am not a follower of ANY man's teachings. I am a follower of Christ. I have several of Jack's books and can find no error in them however. If by reading his books I become a follower of the man ... WOW !!

And I am not sure how that statement smear's anyone?

[Woody]

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And I am not sure how that statement smear's anyone?

Asking if he is a false prophet and if I am following him? That smears him my friend. He does not wish for people to "follow him". And no one does. You make him out to be the next Ernie Knoll.

You've been good at making accusations but no references have been produced.

[Twilight]

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And I am not sure how that statement smear's anyone?

Asking if he is a false prophet and if I am following him? That smears him my friend. He does not wish for people to "follow him". And no one does. You make him out to be the next Ernie Knoll.

I have been reading up on it and you have stated you find no error in it, your views are identical.

Now that suggests to me that you have been "following" his teaching.

Mark

[Woody]

His book is just presenting the Bible and the SOP.

[Woody]

His book is just presenting the Bible and the SOP.

I can say the same about Jon Paulien, Alden Thompsen , George Knight and Ed Dickerson. Does that mean I am a 'follower' of each of them also?

I do agree that each of them are 'inspired' however.

[Twilight]

His book is just presenting the Bible and the SOP.

He is not presenting the SOP.

He is presenting his right to re-interpret the SOP.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted By: Redwood

His book is just presenting the Bible and the SOP.

I do agree that each of them are 'inspired' however.

Agree with who? :-)

How do you come to that conclusion?

Mark