Let the Truth set us free by P. Barkhuizen

[Guest]

How many times have you successfully proven to a Jehovah's Witness that he needed to keep the Sabbath?

[pnattmbtc]

The Sabbath requires faith.

Quote:

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.(Heb. 11:3)

It is by faith that we apprehend that God created the world. Without that knowledge, the Sabbath means nothing.

[oldsailor29]

Yes, it says, "Let us make man in our image." This was the one infinite God standing outside of time and space, creating time, space, and the rest of the cosmos. This one infinite God included those we know as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, outside of time and space, with no beginning and no end, infinite. This same creator God became flesh and dwelt among men. Jesus was not derived from, but was always one with the other revelations of the one infinite God.

This belief is basic to Christianity. This is the main belief which separates Christianity from the rest of the world. All opposing beliefs are of the Devil. Jesus is our creator as well as our redeemer. Any who believe our creator is not infinite, can be deceived into thinking that we can become gods. This is evolutionism and existentialism, and what the snake said to Eve.

You can all ridicule this belief with foolish questions as much as you want, but I would just say take counsel that you do not seek to destroy the faith of others.

[karl]

Originally Posted By: teresaq(sda)

so basically you are of the "oneness" belief. im running into not a few sda believers in that.

im not familiar with the designation "oneness" belief. does it refer to "aesthetic realism?" If so, i have heard of that, "reality is the oneness of opposites." if it means i believe Jesus when He said, "I and my Father are one," yes i do believe that. i believe all references like father/son and bride/groom are metaphorical. in other words, Jesus is God.

Almost every mention of God in the Bible is referring to God the Son. God the Father is referred to mainly by Jesus. Most of the other references to God are talking about the second person of the Godhead.

The cloud that guided Israel, stood over the tabernacle. The glory of the cloud emanated from Jesus Christ, who from the midst of the glory talked with Moses, as He had talked with him from the burning bush. The brightness of God's presence was enshrouded in the darkness of the cloud which He made His pavilion, that the people could endure to look upon the cloud, as seeing Him who is invisible. This was God's plan whereby He might approach man (MS 126, 1901).