Three ways to kill a forum's activities

[Stan]

1 - Talk about the "nature" of Christ

2 - talk about abortion

3 - talk about gays

[Twilight]

The Christ's nature discussion seems quite positive and popular to me, so I am not sure what point you take issue with here?

[Twilight]

Maybe we should have a list of approved topics and titles that we are allowed to post?

[Stan]

I just read the shout box... interesting comments about the same kind of thing.

not sure what a ggod guy is...

[Twilight]

I saw a mention of the abortion topic there only Stan.

I for one did not know that our church hospitals practiced abortions, so appreciated that being pointed out to me in the last week.

That quite frankly sickens me and causes me deep concern.

These things need to be discussed if this is a board for Adventists to discuss Adventist issues..

If this board became a stomping ground for the liberal agenda only, then it would lose its value quickly.

And I am sensing a push for a liberal agenda on this board just lately, maybe that has always been there, but I am only just noticing it.

And I am not a liberal OR conservative by the way...

...I don't eat shrimps and I do eat eggs (organic free range of course), which should be proof enough.

[Stan]

It would be interesting to know which hospitals do, and how many are done in a year. I think I will ask that question on the other thread.

[Twilight]

The minute this board starts to censor opinions and concerns, it loses validity and purpose as a board for Adventists to use.

[Twilight]

I would also like the answer to that question.

[Stan]

I would also like the answer to that question.

I asked on that thread. Hope they come up with solid and current facts.

[Stan]

The minute this board starts to censor opinions and concerns, it loses validity and purpose as a board for Adventists to use.

When too many Adventist walk away because one or more people hijack this to have their agenda, then it becomes useless as well.

An example of that, and there are others, was some turning every thread into a "Jesuits this that and the other thing"

No one minded if there was one or two threads on that, but everyone? no.

[Twilight]

But the moderators keep control of that Stan, in my view and experience.

And yes, you are right, a personal agenda should not be placed on every thread.

But everyone has an agenda, you, me, the moderator's, everyone.

I think the way John317 handles that situation is a good model for the board.

He insists that the threads for those discussions be used and moderates that heavily, not allowing the overspill, but pointing to the proper location.

Everyone has something they would like to share.

Surely that should be encouraged, as long as it does not break the rules.

Internet forums will always have controversy however, every single one of them.

I used to hope differently, but that cannot be the case.

Without it, a forum will die.

I sense yours and Tom's frustration (amongst others) is that you want this forum to be an outreach for non-SDA's.

But that because of the controversy that often surrounds this type of forum, that is being inhibited.

But that is always going to be the case.

Even if you ban those you might think are not "co-operating", you will only get another 10 to replace the one who has left.

I have also noticed, that most of the controversy comes around "attacks" on fundamental beliefs.

There is a war in the church about these fundamental's.

The liberals and conservatives are fighting for control.

But there is a third Spirit filled group that stand in the middle and want neither to have control, sometimes they get confused as one or the other by both sides.

But that war in the church, will hit these boards as well.

Interaction always brings difficulties.

When a forum allows one side to plant its flag in the middle, it loses its value in my mind.

You have provided a battlefield, when you expected a picnic spot possibly?

[Twilight]

I must have missed the Jesuit threads though, can you point me to them.

I like "black helicopter" discussions...

[Twilight]

Except two be agreed, how can they walk together...

[Twilight]

The other valuable thing, is that when someone does bring their agenda, it can be challenged openly.

That is a very good thing.

Often, an agenda makes ground because it is not challenged.

And the challenge itself can open up many peoples' eyes to things they have not seen before.

An example is the recent Covenant thread.

Whilst I was comfortable with my understanding, it deepened as I engaged in that.

[doug yowell]

There is a war in the church about these fundamental's.

The liberals and conservatives are fighting for control.

But there is a third Spirit filled group that stand in the middle and want neither to have control, sometimes they get confused as one or the other by both sides.

That's a strange observation, Mark. A confused Spirit-filled group?? Not sure what ya meant by that.

[Stan]

I must have missed the Jesuit threads though, can you point me to them.

I like "black helicopter" discussions...

try googling clubadventist+Jesuit...

have been exposed a couple of times as being a jesuit, now I have fun with that.

:)

[Twilight]

The other thing is this.

We are in the Great Controversy.

Every self respecting Adventist knows that.

I doubt this board will ever be immune to that.

[doug yowell]

I must have missed the Jesuit threads though, can you point me to them.

I like "black helicopter" discussions...

Black helicopters are how Jesuits travel. I thought you already knew that.

[Twilight]

I did Doug.

I was going to ask if Stan had a black helicopter, but thought it might be a bit insensitive...

Of course if someone has a picture of Stan in said black helicopter, I will have to accept he is such...

[Twilight]

*Promises not to start "Stan is a Jesuit" type thread*

[Gerr]

1 - Talk about the "nature" of Christ

2 - talk about abortion

3 - talk about gays

G: Activities killer? Au contraire, mssr., they seem to generate a lot of discussion.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted By: Twilight

There is a war in the church about these fundamental's.

The liberals and conservatives are fighting for control.

But there is a third Spirit filled group that stand in the middle and want neither to have control, sometimes they get confused as one or the other by both sides.

That's a strange observation, Mark. A confused Spirit-filled group?? Not sure what ya meant by that.

Confusion abounds Doug...

[doug yowell]

Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen

1 - Talk about the "nature" of Christ

2 - talk about abortion

3 - talk about gays

G: Activities killer? Au contraire, mssr., they seem to generate a lot of discussion.

Touche!

[doug yowell]

*Promises not to start "Stan is a Jesuit" type thread*

I didn't know Stan had a black helicopter!! Ya know, only important Jesuits are allowed to own those things? I wonder if .........??

[doug yowell]

That's a strange observation, Mark. A confused Spirit-filled group?? Not sure what ya meant by that.

Confusion abounds Doug...

In spirit filled groups?