TEEN PLAYING 'KNOCKOUT GAME' SHOT TWICE BY VICTIM

[cricket]

Originally Posted By: Bravus

It was always about race on the part of the OP poster. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous - as the more recent comments clearly demonstrate.

I deliberately did not participate in this thread because it was quite predictable where it was going. Bonnie continues her wanton attacks on people of color unchecked and pretends that others bring up the issue. There is some abnormal psychopathology that produces this behavior.

Bonne, why don't you start a thread about white on white crime for a change. give it a break.

Wow. Love it when non-professionally trained people take on the roles of judges and psychoanalysts! Makes for great Internet reading. It's getting juicy!

[bonnie]

Interesting that the claim was made that it was me who raised race, but we're now hearing all about how the attackers were black and I have no sympathy for the innocent white victims. Never mind that some were Asian and some Jewish, just in the stories of random assaults that I have read.

It was always about race on the part of the OP poster. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous - as the more recent comments clearly demonstrate.

Very good. However,until you entered the discussion it was not about the race of those committing the attacks,but the senselessness of the attacks themselves. No one commented on race.

You decided this was contrived" was to fuel racial hatred and called the incidences a hoax.

Yes,there are other races being attacked,being attacked by the same ones. Nowhere did anyone say that it was only white victims.

But your hand wringing over this "contrived" issue did not seem to be a factor before or now as you brought up Martin.

You didn't seem to object to the editing of tapes and photos,after all Zimmerman was guilty.

Had Zimmerman been black not to many would have cared to the extent they claimed about Martin.

You Bravus,brought up race,you called the reporting a hoax to fuel racial hatred,you brought up Martin.

None of that originated with anyone else,so you spin it however you are comfortable with.

[bonnie]

I deliberately did not participate in this thread because it was quite predictable where it was going. Bonnie continues her wanton attacks on people of color unchecked and pretends that others bring up the issue. There is some abnormal psychopathology that produces this behavior.

Bonne, why don't you start a thread about white on white crime for a change. give it a break.

Go back and check who changed the direction of this thread. Had this been white thugs committing these senseless brutality I would not have had any problem posting it. Unlike some I don't see anything sacred about someone's skin color

For a man that likes to bring up the evils of the "white race" when the opportunity presents itself,I find this a very self serving comment.

Just a few days ago in the Thanksgiving thread,you attempted to get something going with your crack about Native Americans not being thanful.

The intent of that thread was clear,yet you wanted to turn it into the evils of the white man. Thankfully everyone ignored your comment

You have done this more than once.

[lazarus]

Wow. Love it when non-professionally trained people take on the roles of judges and psychoanalysts! Makes for great Internet reading. It's getting juicy!

Oh so.. tell everyone what my professional qualifications are Cricket....

[cricket]

I'll leave that up to you, Lazarus.

[lazarus]

Had this been white thugs committing these senseless brutality I would not have had any problem posting it.

You would never have posted it obviously. There's isn't as much of a thrill in it.

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Just a few days ago in the Thanksgiving thread,you attempted to get something going with your crack about Native Americans not being thanful.

There is always another view of reality. You see it as getting something going I call it injecting another reality into the discussion. Of course you will be uncomfortable, its not a view that you are used to.

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The intent of that thread was clear,yet you wanted to turn it into the evils of the white man. Thankfully everyone ignored your comment

You have done this more than once.

There are evil white men out there. As uncomfortable as you find it, people do talk about them. I'm comfortable with being ignored. I'm used to it. It's a byproduct of saying certain things.

[lazarus]

I'll leave that up to you, Lazarus.

Don't stop now...finish what you started...

[cricket]

Started? I did not begin to post your credentials as a judge or psychoanalyst. Are you either one of these? Have I missed something regarding your credentials over the past 8+ years?

[lazarus]

Started? I did not begin to post your credentials as a judge or psychoanalyst. Are you either one of these?

Are you seriously suggesting that only a judge or psychoanalyst knows what abnormal psychopathology is? I'm sure you are aware that they are a number of professionals who have a practical knowledge in this area.

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Have I missed something over the past 8+ years?

That depends on what you are been looking for.

[cricket]

Originally Posted By: cricket

Started? I did not begin to post your credentials as a judge or psychoanalyst. Are you either one of these?

Are you seriously suggesting that only a judge or psychoanalyst knows what abnormal psychopathology is? I'm sure you are aware that they are a number of professionals who have a practical knowledge in this area.

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Have I missed something over the past 8+ years?

That depends on what you are been looking for.

No, but I am seriously suggesting that only a credentialed judge or a credentialed psychoanalyst ought to be making judgments and diagnoses of mental illness.

[lazarus]

No, but I am seriously suggesting that only a credentialed judge or a credentialed psychoanalyst ought to be making judgments and diagnoses of mental illness.

A number of different kinds mental health professionals make such diagnoses. I made no such diagnosis.

[bonnie]

You would never have posted it obviously. There's isn't as much of a thrill in it.

[LifeHiscost]

I have my own opinion about who is the character and who is the charactee, but I've found it is sometimes best to let the train die for lack of fuel.

"When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise.

Proverbs 10:19 NASB

The words of the godly encourage many, but fools are destroyed by their lack of common sense." Proverbs 10:19 NLT

God cares! Jesus saves!

[phkrause]

Yes it seems that way LHC. People have an opinion on an article, and instead of disagreeing with that opinion, we attack the person, in this case Lazarus, for his opinion. Instead of talking to the article and why its correct or incorrect. In the sense of the name now being applied to something that has always been called an "assault!" From my reading of this thread that's what a few have been saying. Not one person as been justifing the wrong that is being done to anyone, being "White," "Hispanic," "Black," "Jewish," or whatever race, nationality, etc. they might be. Wrong is wrong, period. And than to accuse others of racism, is by far the biggest wrong!! Its sad enough that racism exists. Sorry all, but this is my opinion of what I'm reading here. Very sad indeed. Leaves the thread with head down and shaking!

[bonnie]

Yes it seems that way LHC. People have an opinion on an article, and instead of disagreeing with that opinion, we attack the person, in this case Lazarus, for his opinion. Instead of talking to the article and why its correct or incorrect. In the sense of the name now being applied to something that has always been called an "assault!" From my reading of this thread that's what a few have been saying. Not one person as been justifing the wrong that is being done to anyone, being "White," "Hispanic," "Black," "Jewish," or whatever race, nationality, etc. they might be. Wrong is wrong, period. And than to accuse others of racism, is by far the biggest wrong!! Its sad enough that racism exists. Sorry all, but this is my opinion of what I'm reading here. Very sad indeed. Leaves the thread with head down and shaking!

You can choose to see this however you wish. It was posted simply because of the acts involved. No one brought up race until Bravus

declared it a hoax and done to fuel racial hatred.

As for accusing anyone of being racists you may want to reread two posts and make sure where the accusation came from

[olger]

The elephant in the room is an inordinate amount of black crime. It's time we faced reality, stopped looking for excuses to justify it, and like Bill Cosby said, find ways to make it stop.

The root cause of crime is criminals. That goes for all of 'em.

G

[bonnie]

The elephant in the room is an inordinate amount of black crime. It's time we faced reality, stopped looking for excuses to justify it, and like Bill Cosby said, find ways to make it stop.

The root cause of crime is criminals. That goes for all of 'em.

G

If you say that you have become a racist.

This was posted mainly because this wanna be thug had the tables turned on him. This is the first time I recall that happening.

While I am glad this young man was not killed,a little pain now might prevent him or his next victim being hurt worse or dead.

How it makes any difference if this is an "old game" revived and happening more frequently or if the media coined the phrase escapes me.

[olger]

Don't keer.

Walk on.

og out.

[LifeHiscost]

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The root cause of crime is criminals. That goes for all of 'em.

yeah, but you got to admit, the biggest lawbreaker is the one in the red underwear, holding a pitchfork, and horns on his head and a pointy tail.

All will be held to account for what they do and I don't think we're going to be able to say, "Da debil made me do it".

Justice is just around the corner.

"And he saith to me, `Thou mayest not seal the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is nigh;

he who is unrighteous -- let him be unrighteous still, and he who is filthy -- let him be filthy still, and he who is righteous -- let him be declared righteous still, and he who is sanctified -- let him be sanctified still:

And lo, I come quickly, and my reward with me, to render to each as his work shall be;"Revelation 22:10-12 YLT

God cares! Jesus saves!

[LifeHiscost]

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Wrong is wrong, period. And than to accuse others of racism, is by far the biggest wrong!!

God cares! Jesus saves!

[lazarus]

The elephant in the room is an inordinate amount of black crime.

G

It would be if you have a tabloid view of the world.

If on the other hand you take, as MLK says, the walk of empathy and understanding you would know that the issues involved are not just black and white (pun intended). A look at sentencing disparities illustrates the fact that "black crime" is code for something else. No one talks about white boys going to schools are killing other white boys and girls with guns. White on white crime does not seem to exist.

A new academic study of 58,000 federal criminal cases has found significant disparities in sentencing for blacks and whites arrested for the same crimes. The research led to the conclusion that African-Americans’ jail time was almost 60% longer than white sentences.

.....In federal cases, black defendants faced average sentences of 60 months, while the average for white defendants was only 38 months.

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/b...mes?news=843984

There are many other related issues.

When we take the time to try to understand what's really going on then bigger elephants appear. How about white judges and white prosecutors.

James Coleman, Jr. and Todd D. Peterson, Report of the Special Committee on Race and Ethnicity to the D.C. Circuit Task Force on Gender, Race, and Ethnic Bias, 64 Geo. Wash. L. Rev. 189, 323-330 (January, 1996).

This report indicated whites are receiving downward departure motion from prosecutors more frequently than blacks and latinos with similar criminal histories and offenses. The disparity is especially apparent in cases where the sentences were the longest mandatory minimum sentences were involved. They attributed the main reason for the gross sentence disparity being the overwhelming majority of blacks sentenced under crack cocaine mandatory minimums. As is common knowledge, the average sentence imposed for crack trafficking is twice as long as the sentence for powdered cocaine. The committee found no racially discriminatory intent on the part of Congress in enacting separate penalties for cocaine offenses but urged reform to eliminate the minority community's perception of unfairness and inconsistency.

Under the "two strikes" laws, life imprisonment is sought for blacks 16% of the time, while only 1% of the time for whites.

Samuel L. Myers, Jr. Racial Disparities in Sentencing: Can Sentencing Reforms Reduce Discrimination in Punishment?, 64 U. Colo. L. Rev. 781 (1993).

This author also uses self-report studies to indicate that minorities commit no more crime than whites. He also attributed the public's apathy on the issue being due to the current conservative political climate which refuses to admit racism plays into the sentencing disparity. His research indicates that at every stage of the criminal justice process, blacks with similar offenses and criminal histories, etc. are given harsher sentences than their white counterparts. Black men with prior drug records are 20% more likely to receive release than a comparable white offender. When he controlled for all factors but race, he found that blacks should be released 45% more often on parole. His study thereby underscores the extensive racial disparity in sentencing.

I used to expect that Christian people would be more open to looking for the truth rather than repeating the culturally mantra's that sustain the appearance of superiority. I'm more realistic now.

[olger]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/12/02/h...n-williamsburg/

[LifeHiscost]

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The Christian (Disciple of Christ) can spend most of his time and energies correcting social ills as opposed to carrying the gospel to the world's population. On the one hand you may provide some comfort to a number of people that will last them for this life they now endure, and in the end they still die, many just as hopeless as before your best efforts.

Do you suppose that is the reason Jesus did not tell His disciples to go into the world and heal all the people's ills, as opposed to "Go ye into all the World and preach the Gospel"?

Jesus taught the Christian how to adapt to the injustices of this world without complaining about it. For that, if they trusted in His shed blood and grace to be sufficient to save them for His Kingdom, then they could look forward to seeing many that had benefited by their quiet, helpful actions, delivered into the Kingdom where color will no longer be an issue to endure.

God cares! Jesus saves!

[lazarus]

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#679628

The Christian (Disciple of Christ) can spend most of his time and energies correcting social ills as opposed to carrying the gospel to the world's population.

Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised.....

Christ’s method alone will give true success in reaching the people. The Saviour mingled with men as one who desired their good. He showed His sympathy for them, ministered to their needs, and won their confidence. Then He bade them, “Follow Me.” Ellen White, Ministry of Healing p 143.

[CoAspen]

If carrying the gospel to the world means ignoring the ills of the world, not my job, than the gospel has no legs.