Why is it hard?

[Naomi]

Originally Posted By: M. T. Cross

Maybe the reason its hard to talk about race is we never know if we are talking about race as in a global issue or racial tensions in the U.S. (which of course all things must revolve around)

So no-one wanted to possibly answer this, but it has been answered none the less, so maybe should this thread not be in the U.S. political forum where you can continue to self implode without the rest of us having to watch?

[lazarus]

Maybe the reason its hard to talk about race is we never know if we are talking about race as in a global issue or racial tensions in the U.S. (which of course all things must revolve around)

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So no-one wanted to possibly answer this,

I don't remember seeing it actually. Sorry. It got lost in the very long posts that have been part of this thread.

I've never experienced a confusion in discussion or thought about racism as a global or local phenomenon. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point. My discussions about race usually are a result of a particular incident. I think most conversations about race are on that "local", personal level. If by global level you mean the concept of white supremacy and white privilege then I think a lot of people have not been exposed to those ideas. There are difficult for some people to even entertain.

For me the vid I posted earlier hits the nail on the head as to why some white folks have a challenge talking about race.

[M. T. Cross]

Absolutely it is going to be different in different countries because the "race" that has the issue is going to be different.

Your question Laz was why is race so hard for some people to talk about. Now when you posted that I took it to mean that you actually meant some people, and you meant racial issues as a whole. That is not localized or specific instances. That is an issue that everyone can weigh in on with equality.

But it seems that it has turned into only black vs white, and how that goes down in the U.S.of A. I have observed that when anyone that is not an U.S.ite makes a comment on their view they often get shot down by a U.Site of opposite view using only U.S. problems. Much like the issue does not exist or is not important outside of how it presents in the States.

I am sure someone will come along and say that they don't see that happening and I will put a 99% chance that the person saying that will be from the States.

[lazarus]

But it seems that it has turned into only black vs white, and how that goes down in the U.S.of A. I have observed that when anyone that is not an U.S.ite makes a comment on their view they often get shot down by a U.Site of opposite view using only U.S. problems. Much like the issue does not exist or is not important outside of how it presents in the States.

Oh, sure. I understand. I think it does end up becoming about just black and white in the US. That might be because of the particular history the US has with racism being a part of the fabric of society.

I grew up in the UK and of course there is racism there but it was never legally codified in the same way that it is was in the US. The is so much more emotion and angst over the issue here I feel. That could be just as much about the character of British v Americans as anything else. I would certainly like to hear comments from peoples experiences in other countries. I certainly know of whites who have experienced racism in non-white countries.

I know you had posted about your experience. Thank you. It was interesting. That was about the time when certain folks went into the denigration phase of their posting so I decided to take a breather.

For all people its difficult to talk about racism but for some it is more difficult than others.

[Gregory Matthews]

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Oh, sure. I understand. I think it does end up becoming about just black and white in the US. That might be because of the particular history the US has with racism being a part of the fabric of society.

Yes, but. . . ..

There is certainly a past history in the U.S. as to Chinese.

There is a growing issue in the U.S., especially in some locations, that relates to Hispanics.

There is a growing issue, especially in some locations, that relates to Islamics/Arabs/Middle Eastern people.

[lazarus]

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There is certainly a past history in the U.S. as to Chinese.

There is a growing issue in the U.S., especially in some locations, that relates to Hispanics.

There is a growing issue, especially in some locations, that relates to Islamics/Arabs/Middle Eastern people.

Yes indeed but clearly African-Americans and European Americans have been central to the discussion about race in America.

[Gregory Matthews]

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Yes indeed but clearly African-Americans and European Americans have been central to the discussion about race in America.

I agree.

But, I believe that the issue in the U.S. is expanding beyond the above.

No, the expansion has not yet become central. The discussion remains central as you have stated.

But, I note the growing expansion beyond that.

[joeb]

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Oh, sure. I understand. I think it does end up becoming about just black and white in the US. That might be because of the particular history the US has with racism being a part of the fabric of society.

Yes, but. . . ..

There is certainly a past history in the U.S. as to Chinese.

There is a growing issue in the U.S., especially in some locations, that relates to Hispanics.

There is a growing issue, especially in some locations, that relates to Islamics/Arabs/Middle Eastern people.

Add the American Indian, the Irish, the Japanese, etc... to the list US list. However, this isn't an issue that is specific to the US. The British, French, Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, etc... all have been, or are, highly racist societies.

Racism exists in every country of the world and on every continent of the globe. It's a part of human nature that sin has created, and it will exist until sin is eradicated.

[phkrause]

GP:

Here's an interesting link

Taking on Racism

http://www.beliefnet.com/Inspiration/Gal..._term=yahoo.com