Outta Here Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 For those persons interested in following these events, here is some information from my local news channel regarding this weekend. Events happening in and around St. Louis marking the one year anniversary of Mike Brown's death: Friday: "Heal our City" Concert at 6 pm, The Ambassador Saturday: 9am, Silent March from Canfield to Normandy High; 2pm March from Vonderrit Myers Memorial; 7pm Ferguson Rocks concert at the Ready Room Sunday: 11:55am Moment of silence at Canfield site; 12pm Silent march to Greater St. Mark Church; 9pm "Ferguson is Everywhere" concert at Fubar Monday: A Day of Civil Disobedience and a National Call to Action The news stations have given no further information on the Monday events. Quote
Moderators Gerr Posted August 8, 2015 Moderators Posted August 8, 2015 Does Monday's "A Day of Civil Disobedience and a National Call to Action" include a time for rioting and looting? B/W Photodude 1 Quote
B/W Photodude Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 Taking the Lord's Name in Vain: Michael Brown isn't Jesus Christ He does get to Michael Brown about half way thru after discussing the rich and poor and Russell Brand. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
D_Bishop Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Taking the Lord's name in vain covers a lot of territory and a lot of people, including I am sure some anonymous and non anonymous computer screen commandos on this forum. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted August 9, 2015 Moderators Posted August 9, 2015 “If not for the unrest, we wouldn’t have seen municipal court reform. It’s certainly a game-changer,” said Kevin Ahlbrand, president of Missouri’s Fraternal Order of Police and a member of the Ferguson Commission, created by the governor to correct economic and social conditions that fueled the unrest. St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar told The Huffington Post it was “a shame that we haven’t had the political will before 2014” to look at the municipal courts. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ferguson-protests-municipal-court-reform_55a90e4be4b0c5f0322d0cf1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
B/W Photodude Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Ferguson one year later: It is now fashionable to vilify police regardless of the facts From Washington, D.C. to Washington State it’s already happening. In the nation's capital, the Metropolitan Police Department struggles to hire new officers while facing record attrition. They do so while murder and violent crime have jumped after recent record lows. In Washington State, there is a shortage of State Police to patrol the highways. State police in Vermont and Wisconsin have also expressed concerns over recruiting shortages. One recruiting officer in Madison says many potential candidates mention the lack of public support as a main factor for reconsidering police work. News reports cite research by the International Association of Chiefs of Police showing an 80 percent decline in police applications in southern towns. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/08/07/ferguson-anniversary-where-do-go-from-here.html?intcmp=hpbt2 So, when there are no more police officers, call Al or Jesse! Naomi 1 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Aliensanctuary Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 This would be an entirely different story if Michael Brown had gotten a hold of the officer's gun and shot him dead. Didn't that just happen in Shreveport? While some may turn the boy into a saint and a martyr, others see a stupid kid committing suicide by cop. Naomi 1 Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
Moderators lazarus Posted August 10, 2015 Moderators Posted August 10, 2015 "others see a stupid kid committing suicide by cop." And those same individuals fundamentally misunderstand the issues that Michael Brown's death raised. Unfortunately more people and police will die until things change. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Ferguson Looters are Stealing Everything From Milk to Dogs 10Aug, 2015by Cassy Fiano Yesterday was the anniversary of the death of Michael Brown, and for the people of Ferguson, it was a day worth celebrating. They had themselves a grand old time, rioting and shooting and stealing everything they could get their hands on. Ferguson looters are apparently proud of their actions tonight. They’ve gone to social media to brag about the stuff they’ve stolen. Even a poor little dog has been stolen and the scumbag who stole the poor dog tweeted about it. @TylerValleGG JUST STOLE ME THIS DOG MAN #FERGUSONLOOTCREW #FERGUSON pic.twitter.com/PWrxncqxop — 2-ILLS (@StantwoLs) August 10, 2015 I STOLE THIS LADYS I PHONE AIN’T EVEN THE NEW ONE #FERGUSONLOOTCREW #FERGUSON pic.twitter.com/gAYCpDmjDF — 2-ILLS (@StantwoLs) August 10, 2015 THEM PIGS AINT GONNA HAVE THEY MEDICINE. IT MINE NOW#Ferguson #FERGUSONLOOTCREW pic.twitter.com/4V1xgzH1js — Alfonze Brown (@Deadp4nEdgeL0rd) August 10, 2015 Of course, it could be argued that they were just honoring Michael Brown’s memory, who was known to steal things and rough people up too. Besides, everyone knows that the best way to fight for social justice is by stealing things that don’t belong to you and shoot at innocent people. Aliensanctuary 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
B/W Photodude Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Of course, it could be argued that they were just honoring Michael Brown’s memory, who was known to steal things and rough people up too. Besides, everyone knows that the best way to fight for social justice is by stealing things that don’t belong to you and shoot at innocent people. So, did anyone expect anything different? State of emergency in St. Louis County http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/10/state-emergency-issued-in-st-louis-mo Naomi 1 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
bonnie Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 When we lost our home in 1965 to a tornado the looting began within a half hour after it hit. The national guard was called out with orders "You Loot,We Shoot" Had an amazing calming effect on all the thugs wanting to loot. I wouldn't mind seeing a lot more aggressive action to reign in these thugs B/W Photodude 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Outta Here Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Interesting. I live about 3 miles from Ferguson. Our street had half the houses destroyed by tornado in 2012, and no one came to loot. Edited August 10, 2015 by Aubrey Quote
bonnie Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Interesting. I live about 3 miles from Ferguson. Our street had half the houses destroyed by tornado in 2012, and no one came to loot. That is the way it should be. Makes the whole ordeal a lot easier for those who have been hit. We weren,t so fortunate. We lived on an island on Lake Minnetonka and the looters came in by boat. That really wasn't the point tho. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Outta Here Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 I just found it interesting because looters had no interest in the houses on our street, but do seem to have an interest in the businesses only 3 miles from my home. Sorry if you feel I missed your point or if you feel I took it off subject. Tangential thinking is the way I roll. Quote
bonnie Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I just found it interesting because looters had no interest in the houses on our street, but do seem to have an interest in the businesses only 3 miles from my home. Sorry if you feel I missed your point or if you feel I took it off subject. Tangential thinking is the way I roll. No problem. A strong stand of "If you loot and we catch you this is what you can expect" goes a long way in making looting a lot less attractive. Outta Here 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Aliensanctuary Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 This could turn into a national holiday, Michael Brown Day, a day where people become looting, business-burning mobs, destroying other people's property or taking it home while police and national guard stand by, watching. On Michael Brown Day it will be OK to assault business owners and cops, and, shoot the cops dead if at all possible if you can take their guns away. Too many liars have turned Michael Brown into a poor, innocent victim who never did anyone harm, murdered in cold blood as he pleaded for his life. Now, there's an empty prison cell that he will never occupy. Sure, cops make mistakes, sometimes deadly, because they're human. Maybe they're trained to intimidate non-compliant law-breakers, escalating minor situations into major confrontations. Sometimes, rarely, cops are the criminals, too, who try to cover up their crimes with their badges. Too bad the looters and arsonists aren't smart enough to become cops themselves. They could make their towns, and this world, a better place to live. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
Outta Here Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 Last night was much less violent than the night before. Protesters did shut down a major highway in a rather strategic place and time yesterday. Several arrests were made. I hope that today is a bit more peaceful. I spend a lot of time worrying about my 91 year old grandma who lives even closer to Ferguson than I do. She likes to get out of the house to go to IHOP and Walgreens. When tensions are high, there's no telling what may happen to her if she's on her own. GayatfootofCross 1 Quote
Outta Here Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 Regarding a national Mike Brown day, I don't know about that...several people in Columbia, MO tried to establish a Darren Wilson day, but that didn't get a great reception either. GayatfootofCross 1 Quote
B/W Photodude Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Starnes: Crowd mocks pistol-whipped cop Aug. 10, 2015 - 1:54 - For whatever reason, when white cops have been assassinated by black assailants, the White House has been conspicuously quiet. Could it be that they, too, have embraced the mantra that only black lives matter? http://video.foxnews.com/v/4411315356001/starnes-crowd-mocks-pistol-whipped-cop/?#sp=show-clips All lives matter. Too bad some don't get that. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Outta Here Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 I've NEVER heard anyone say only black lives matter. That's a first for me. lazarus 1 Quote
B/W Photodude Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I've NEVER heard anyone say only black lives matter. That's a first for me. Here, check these out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatter http://blacklivesmatter.com You won't see any dead white policeman who were assassinated in these pages. Or any of the people robbed and bullied by Michael Brown. Or any comments from the White House. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Aliensanctuary Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 There does seem to be a certain class that has created their own "victimhood" by their own lawlessness and disregard for authority. Gotta blame someone else for the conditions they themselves have created through ignorance, lack of initiative, loss of moral values, and disintegration of the family support unit. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
Outta Here Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 Here, check these out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatter http://blacklivesmatter.com You won't see any dead white policeman who were assassinated in these pages. Or any of the people robbed and bullied by Michael Brown. Or any comments from the White House. Still, not seeing anyone say ONLY black lives matter. Quote
Moderators Gerr Posted August 12, 2015 Moderators Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) "others see a stupid kid committing suicide by cop." And those same individuals fundamentally misunderstand the issues that Michael Brown's death raised. Unfortunately more people and police will die until things change. And what are the changes you or these people are looking for? As I see it, the issues raised by the M Brown incident is very simple - if/when confronted by law officers who are risking their lives to protect society, is it asking too much for a citizen to comply? If the officer is guilty of misdeed, then pursue it through the courts. That is far safer than confronting an armed person! Edited August 12, 2015 by Gerry Cabalo Addition Aliensanctuary and Liz 2 Quote
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