BlessedMan Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, JoeMo said: Oh ... we're already over $20 trillion in debt. Are we already economically bankrupt? I have always wondered just why it is that we so readily believe this hooplah about "the debt." Can someone please tell me just HOW on earth we are to trust that as gospel truth? Another False Flag?? phkrause 1 Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
BlessedMan Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, B/W Photodude said: DT is doing an important part in the unfolding of last day events. BUT then, so am I phkrause and stinsonmarri 2 Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
JoeMo Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, BlessedMan said: I have always wondered just why it is that we so readily believe this hooplah about "the debt." Can someone please tell me just HOW on earth we are to trust that as gospel truth? Another False Flag?? The national debt is not "gospel truth". It's "financial truth". The gospel truth is that a failure of the economic system will play into the last days. "And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine." (Rev. 6:5-6) BlessedMan and B/W Photodude 2 Quote
stinsonmarri Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 12 hours ago, B/W Photodude said: If you haven't read the book, then don't put it down like you know what it says. I have read the book and I am putting it down. You have compare people today that are not like IsraEL who knew the truth. The problem is as I continue to state, you along with this book and the writer are trying to combine political views with the Bible. That is incorrect because YAHSHUA clearly said to render to Caesar the things that are Caesar (politics) and to THE ALMIGHTY the things that are THE ALMIGHTY, (HIS Moral Law and worship). I would like it shown that the Kennedy's, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, the Bushe's, Reagan, Clintons, Obama, and the one in the WH now know all about the truth concerning the Commandment? How can you compare anyone of them to IsraEL who knew YAHWEH, HIS Laws, Judgement and Statutes. Show how could Hillary be like Jezebel having false prophets? Jonathan Cahn who portray himself as Elijah. Well if read the story of Elijah and also for the endtime; the Bible specifically speaks about us coming in THE SPIRIT of Elijah. Elijah had THE HOLY SPIRIT and Cahn does not mention this at all. Prophets are not magicians they receive their message and power through their relationship with YAHWEH! They keep all the Commandments. Then Rachel makes this statement: "I hate to break it to some posting that JESUS DIED FOR DONALD TRUMP, so lets stop giving the public ideas that are not in scripture! HE IS ABLE to save to the uttermost!! Please, STOP saying that He is not! It doesn't work that way! NO Christian is any better than DT, so lets stop pretending that we are." You don't need to hate to bring anything. And the Bible said YAHSHUA died for the entire world. Who is giving anyone ideas that are not in the Scripture? I see only you stating that YAHSHUA died for only one man and that is not in the Scripture. Well I know a lot of people that are spiritual minded that are better then the man in the WH. I know people who do not lie, cheat on their wives, and have sex with playboy bunnies and do sex movies, hang around known sex traffickers and so much more! Just because we go to church do not make anyone of us saints! What make us correct is being humble, recognizing that we are sinners saved by grace. Realizing that we can stop sinning by the assistance and POWER of THE HOLY SPIRIT! We also must make a choice to change from our sins! Finally, we are all here realizing that were standing in the end of time. We read in Matt and the book of Revelation that their will be certain events which includes people to beware of coming with deception. Deception doesn't come from without, it comes from those who are within trying to plant the seed of despair and comfort, that what we first believe is not true! They wrap lies up in a package pretending it is truth but it is actually deception. They say a little sin here and there needs to be overlooked. No sin should be overlook. We all need to pray that we do not be deceived by books, smooth talking and overlooking YAHWEH'S Laws! Blessings! phkrause 1 Quote
BlessedMan Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeMo said: The national debt is not "gospel truth". It's "financial truth". The gospel truth is that a failure of the economic system will play into the last days. To even just look at this as a 3 year old, one could say: "well, if everyone is broke" why does everyone have money? (I mean governments). We keep getting told the US is broke, but why do they always have money to lend others? Are you saying the US is so broke that it has surrendered its sovereignity to China and "borrowing" money from them all the time to stay afloat? Where does China keep getting all this money; especially when their own economy is tanking? Rev 6:6 is quite interesting re "the oil..." phkrause and B/W Photodude 2 Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
BlessedMan Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said: Then Rachel makes this statement: "I hate to break it to some posting that JESUS DIED FOR DONALD TRUMP, so lets stop giving the public ideas that are not in scripture! HE IS ABLE to save to the uttermost!! Please, STOP saying that He is not! It doesn't work that way! NO Christian is any better than DT, so lets stop pretending that we are." I made this statement, not Rachel JoeMo 1 Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
B/W Photodude Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, BlessedMan said: We keep getting told the US is broke, but why do they always have money to lend others? Are you saying the US is so broke that it has surrendered its sovereignity to China and "borrowing" money from them all the time to stay afloat? We also hear all the time that Social Security is going broke, usually by Dems trying to scare people out of voting Republican. Funny thing is, they never claim that welfare is running out of money! And E Warren is proposing a plan that would, by some estimates, cost 50 trillion dollars! Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
B/W Photodude Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 3 hours ago, BlessedMan said: BUT then, so am I So true! I have read statements in EGW writings that the lowliest person faithfully doing their tasks stand in higher estimation by God than the highest official in the church who is slothfully doing his tasks. However, the ones on "top" seem to get all the "glory" such as actually being remembered on monuments, in Scripture, etc. The privates or foot soldiers will seldom be known by name. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
B/W Photodude Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 4 hours ago, JoeMo said: If/when the opposition replaces DT, they also will play an important part in the unfolding of last-day events. Free "everything", plus a "living stipend" along with unlimited abortion, LGBT rights forced upon people of faith, and the removal of all things Christian from schools and government buildings will likely bankrupt the nation; and the world will follow. One of the reasons I believe DT was anointed to be president is that the nation was veering sharply in the direction the radical left wants to take the nation. But I do not believe that to be what the Bible prophesies. Two nations from ancient times symbolize ungodly nations, Egypt and Babylon. Many times in different writings I have read where Egypt more often symbolized godless secular humanism. Babylon more often symbolized false religion. The left with their directions seem to be headed straight into Egypt. Revelation is pretty straight forward in calling Babylon the religion that would cause God's people most trouble in the end times, even if much of the world is behaving like Egypt. What seems to be happening is that in the rabid hatred of DT by the left, they are seriously turning off the electorate and may end up loosing even bigger next time around in elections. Many believe DT will win by a landslide. Unfortunately, the more intensively the Republicans secure power, the more it will be used to empower religious agendas, which is what is predicted in Bible prophecy. I do believe it will be the conservative side of government that will take us into the end times, but still support that side. I am amazed how much many in the black community is abandoning the plantation for the Republican party. Many of the controversial names in the Dems column now have black Republican opponents. The problem for Christians is how to vote when votes for candidates for the right could end up bringing on end time events. Seems the least morally deficited is the one to go with. While this is my opinion, I do not claim it to be entirely accurate so wannabe historians need not bother trying to show me where I am wrong. JoeMo 1 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
B/W Photodude Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 2 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: The problem is as I continue to state, you along with this book and the writer are trying to combine political views with the Bible. Unfortunately, when dealing with the leaders of a people, it will always be politics and religion combined. 2 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: Show how could Hillary be like Jezebel having false prophets? Read the book. It is all there. Every detail of Jezebel was not required to be duplicated in HRC. 2 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: Jonathan Cahn who portray himself as Elijah. Read the book. That was not there. JoeMo 1 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
8thdaypriest Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 15 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: You are correct Rachel. In Sodom, the angels told Lot to tell all of his adult children what was about to happen. They did not listen! But, they were warned twice. The first time when they were captured and brought back by Abraham. IsraEL had prophet after prophet to warn them. Today we are to speak and stand firm to truth also. I give no pleasure in seeing this man sinful ways, but it is wrong. Yes, many are immoral today and you cannot blame it on a party. I blame it on us who know and see immorality and do not kindly speak out. We don't need the fire and brimstone speech! We need to show love for one another and work together to let leaders know we stand for truth. Here I was, trying to write a post on the topic of the general wickedness of our age, and how that wickedness was prophesied in types. In her response, stinsonmarrie goes right BACK to condemning our current president. She's been asked and asked and asked and asked - to stop it, but she cannot seem to stop herself. JoeMo and B/W Photodude 2 Quote 8thdaypriest
8thdaypriest Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 2 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: Then Rachel makes this statement: "I hate to break it to some posting that JESUS DIED FOR DONALD TRUMP, so lets stop giving the public ideas that are not in scripture! HE IS ABLE to save to the uttermost!! Please, STOP saying that He is not! It doesn't work that way! NO Christian is any better than DT, so lets stop pretending that we are." Sorry. Wasn't me. I didn't make that statement. Quote 8thdaypriest
B/W Photodude Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, BlessedMan said: To even just look at this as a 3 year old, one could say: "well, if everyone is broke" why does everyone have money? Kids are so cute. They are like poor best friends that think you are rich! BlessedMan 1 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
8thdaypriest Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said: One of the reasons I believe DT was anointed to be president is that the nation was veering sharply in the direction the radical left wants to take the nation. But I do not believe that to be what the Bible prophesies. Two nations from ancient times symbolize ungodly nations, Egypt and Babylon. Many times in different writings I have read where Egypt more often symbolized godless secular humanism. Babylon more often symbolized false religion. The left with their directions seem to be headed straight into Egypt. Revelation is pretty straight forward in calling Babylon the religion that would cause God's people most trouble in the end times, even if much of the world is behaving like Egypt. What seems to be happening is that in the rabid hatred of DT by the left, they are seriously turning off the electorate and may end up loosing even bigger next time around in elections. Many believe DT will win by a landslide. Unfortunately, the more intensively the Republicans secure power, the more it will be used to empower religious agendas, which is what is predicted in Bible prophecy. I do believe it will be the conservative side of government that will take us into the end times, but still support that side. I am amazed how much many in the black community is abandoning the plantation for the Republican party. Many of the controversial names in the Dems column now have black Republican opponents. The problem for Christians is how to vote when votes for candidates for the right could end up bringing on end time events. Seems the least morally deficited is the one to go with. While this is my opinion, I do not claim it to be entirely accurate so wannabe historians need not bother trying to show me where I am wrong. I was - at one time, more afraid of the "religious right" than of the "liberal left", but now I think they may compromise to come together - politically. If posts about "global warming" and the Pope's wanting a global "day of rest" come to some fruition - THAT is definitely a coming together of religion and politics. The whole push for global laws to decrease carbon emissions is nothing more than a scheme to bring the USA down, and to redistribute her wealth. The Pope uses two things - help the poor, and save the planet, but the goal of Satan is to collapse the economy of the USA because Christians in the US financially support global Gospel ministries worldwide. And because the strong US economy and military are the greatest force maintaining world stability. The people supporting the plan endorsed by the Pope, don't even know whose "plan" they are actually supporting. When the US economy collapses, so will the world economy. With that collapse, chaos will ensue - globally. Add to that a growing number of great natural disasters, and you have the final days. The Antichrist, counterfeit "Christ" - will show up (to save the planet). All those without the "seal of God" will serve him. Those with the "seal of God", who try to warn folks about what's happening, will be persecuted into silence (one way or another). JoeMo 1 Quote 8thdaypriest
B/W Photodude Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, 8thdaypriest said: the Pope's wanting a global "day of rest" come to some fruition - The clock is ticking on this pope. I do not believe he has long left. I see more and more internet articles that suggest he may even be assassinated within the Vatican. I believe they will be more careful next time. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Members phkrause Posted November 17, 2019 Members Posted November 17, 2019 17 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: Photodude: You know what is so sad, you speak out that we are trashing the man in the WH. Yet, you present a book that is trying to compare former President Clinton and his wife Hillary to Ahab and Jezebel. Then the man in the WH is supposed be Jehu and the writer of this book is suppose to be the prophet Elijah. This is totally not right at all! I know what he also is claiming about President Obama as well, I will not repeat it! And YAHSHUA answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. Mat 24:4 If you continue to read the Chapter, it clearly warns about people like this man will come to bring out false doctrines that is not in the Bible. I truly pray hard for people who hide and disguise what they do. What's done in the dark will come into the light! I plead with all to watch and pray! Exactly!!!!! Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
BlessedMan Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, phkrause said: Exactly!!!!! NO. Not "exactly" at all. Trump is not "bringing out false doctrines" of any kind. JoeMo 1 Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
BlessedMan Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, B/W Photodude said: Kids are so cute. They are like poor best friends that think you are rich! a real "kid" said that to me! lol B/W Photodude 1 Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
Members phkrause Posted November 17, 2019 Members Posted November 17, 2019 6 hours ago, B/W Photodude said: Given the place of the "lamb that came up on dry ground" in bible prophecy, I would think that anything that happens in the flow of politics in the USA occurs with the permission of God or under His direction. If you can see the flow of prophecy and what the election of Donald Trump has done to the American mindset, the better or for worse to come, DT is doing an important part in the unfolding of last day events. I absolutely agree, but not for the same reason as you do!!!!! Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
stinsonmarri Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, BlessedMan said: I made this statement, not Rachel Rachel: I am sorry meant Blessed Man and not you! Please forgive. You did make the quote Blessed Man and I was referring to you. I owe both of you an apology for typing the wrong name by mistake! Please Forgive! phkrause and BlessedMan 2 Quote
stinsonmarri Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, B/W Photodude said: We also hear all the time that Social Security is going broke, usually by Dems trying to scare people out of voting Republican. Funny thing is, they never claim that welfare is running out of money! And E Warren is proposing a plan that would, by some estimates, cost 50 trillion dollars! Here we go speaking things political, what does Social Security have to do with the Moral Law? Nothing! If you would like to speak about that go on a political thread this is; as you said is a spiritual town hall. I spoke of immoral acts which deals with the Moral Law! Sad that you do not know the difference or do you? Peace! Quote
stinsonmarri Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 5 hours ago, B/W Photodude said: One of the reasons I believe DT was anointed to be president is that the nation was veering sharply in the direction the radical left wants to take the nation. But I do not believe that to be what the Bible prophesies. Where in the Bible does is say in the prophecies that this specific man was anointed an adulterer who has not apologized but lied and say he did not do what he was accuse of! That is not politic, that is breaking the Moral Law! Peace! Quote
B/W Photodude Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said: Here we go speaking things political, what does Social Security have to do with the Moral Law? It has as much to do with the moral law as you going on a tantrum regarding Trump when the original post had nothing to do with him. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
B/W Photodude Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said: Where in the Bible does is say in the prophecies that this specific man was anointed an adulterer who has not apologized but lied and say he did not do what he was accuse of! That is not politic, that is breaking the Moral Law! This has gone beyond any rational discussion. And it is a violation of the moral law to trash a thread for your own agenda. JoeMo, 8thdaypriest and BlessedMan 3 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
stinsonmarri Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 9 hours ago, BlessedMan said: I have always wondered just why it is that we so readily believe this hooplah about "the debt." Can someone please tell me just HOW on earth we are to trust that as gospel truth? Another False Flag?? Well, all I can say is what the Bible says: They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of Yahweh: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity. Eze 7:19 Blessings! Quote
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