there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 As nearly as I can discern, Nico, almost every syllable you have written on this thread rings with unutterable anguish. I'm taking it very seriously. As to what "love does," I do not presume to know what you have experienced. Can the devil pose as your protector for a few decades? It seems likely to me. The old serpent has patience. A seducer often lulls his prey into complacency before he strikes. I do know that the God who allowed His only begotten Son to bridge the gap between time and eternity, between divinity and humanity, to bear our sins, would never tell any seeker that they can never be in the kingdom. [:"blue"]Satan may come to you with the cruel suggestion: "Yours is a hopeless case. You are irredeemable." But there is hope for you in Christ [/] Ministry of Healing, p. 249. Whenever you hear there is "no hope for you," it simply cannot be the voice of God. On the contrary, no matter how desperate our sins, how perverse our past, God says to us, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 2 Cor 12:9 “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 [:"red"]35Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. 36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe.37All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." [/] John 6:35-40 “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 [:"red"] 9The Samaritan woman said to him, "You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?" (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.) 10Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water." 11"Sir," the woman said, "you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and herds?" 13Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life." [/] John 4:11-14 “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 [:"red"]Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. [/] Matthew 28:16:18 “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 LOrd of all, you love Nico and everyone on this forum more than we can imagine. Plese manifest your power and your love in Nico's life, in Pam's life, in my life, and in the lives of all those who read these words. You have given us a spirit of love, and not of fear, and your mere Presence drives out all darkness and demons and powers that oppose you. So we ask for your presence on this thread, and in our lives. May we rejoice in your power, in your love. Not because we deserve it, or merit it, on the contrary, we know we do not. We ask because of our great need, and because you are eager to give us good gifts. We thank you for your everlasting love and watchcare over each one. We know that if "God be for us, who can be against us?" And the answer is, nothing can stand before you. Finally, we ask for a sense of peace in our lives. We know the foe wants to frighten us, to discourage us, and cause us to despair. In You, o Lord, is our Hope. In You our safety. In You, and in you alone, is there salvation. In you is our peace. We know that in the world we will have trouble, and we know that You have overcome the world. So, in the name of Jesus, come into every heart and drive every force of darkness away. Take your throne in our hearts, and let us live in the radiance of your great love. And in Jesus name we pray, Amen. “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
Moderators Bravus Posted September 14, 2006 Moderators Posted September 14, 2006 Amen Truth is important
Nicodema Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Guess that's my cue to shut up again ... go back into hiding ... seal myself in silence. again. "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Beryl Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 No,you don't have to go in to hiding Nico. There are some of us who understand you, and love you. Keep close to the Lord, and don't listen to other voices who try to tell you that you are lost. Salvation is NOTHING about what you do -- it is ALL about WHO you listen to. As always, Love you, Beryl <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/Falling.gif" alt="" /> "Grace is God doing for us, in us and through us that which He requires of us but which is impossible for us to do in or for ourselves." But He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 2 Cor. 12:9.
Moderators Bravus Posted September 14, 2006 Moderators Posted September 14, 2006 Agreed, Nico: please stay here. I don't believe silencing you was Ed's intention: he is praying for you in spirit and in truth, I'm praying alongside him (even though we disagree so vehemently about some other things!) and I know there are others praying for you. If we fail to understand you as you need to be understood, that's our failure and we're praying for God (who understands you absolutely) to make up our lack. Truth is important
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Guess that's my cue to shut up again ... go back into hiding ... seal myself in silence. again. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Not at all. I'm having the weirdest time posting. My replies tend to vanish without explanation. Here goes again. Although I've never been into the occult at all, several years ago I was hearing inner voices of despair, telling me I was beyond hope, and even that I was not sincere in my desire to serve God. It was that experience that taught em that the voice of despair is NEVER speaking for God. Last night I received several PM's indicating that Satan was "lurking very near" this thread. The purpose of the scripture and my prayer was to make it safe for all. I may have been mistaken in my actions, but they were not at all intended to silence you. Your heart-cry, and the last question about "love is as love does" stirred me deeply. If my replies are not helpful, then ignore them. “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
Administrators Gail Posted September 14, 2006 Administrators Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Nicodema said: Guess that's my cue to shut up again ... go back into hiding ... seal myself in silence. again. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I agree with the other guys, Nico- you are well loved here and you are doing the right thing. We are lifting you up before the Lord continually Your experience is not what the Bible promises and not what we here who walk with Him experience. We wish that you enjoy the blessing and freedom and rest that the Lord says will be yours when you are His Remember that in the Bible the demoniacs who were freed by Jesus Himself were done so with violence from the demons who held them prisoner. Those inside the 2 men who lived with the tombs begged to be sent into the swine in order to destroy the village's livelihood. In this way they hoped that Jesus would be driven out Satan does not give up willingly, and he doesn't care whom he destroys I thank the Lord that He is the LIFE, the Way and the Truth. He is the Creator of the universe and all will bow before Him I pray that the peace and happiness you seek will be yours, ESPECIALLY when in the presence of the Saviour who loves you so much that He endured torture and death to redeem you Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Nicodema Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Ed Dickerson said: I'm having the weirdest time posting. My replies tend to vanish without explanation. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Oh, that. That's par for the course. If you were to phone me, you'd probably likewise be mysteriously cut off too, or the line would blank out so as to remain connected yet neither could hear one another, or perhaps you would obtain a continual busy signal even though the phone at my end were not in use. I suppose some might take that for a sign. But I am not her, and she has been a very naughty girl, running amok on here and getting all you good people worked up over nothing. This vessel is host and waystation to innumerable packets of self-organized consciousness -- it hath ever been thus, world without end -- and some of them have a problem with seriously loose lips. I do apologize for the inconvenience, kind Ambassadors of N.J. We care for our afflicted as best we can in H-B. Of course, this one in particular is a result of your doings, not Ours, but please do not receive either this nor her ravings as some type of declaration of war. Peace between our Kingdoms. Pax Templi. "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Administrators Gail Posted September 14, 2006 Administrators Posted September 14, 2006 Lord God Almighty, Creator of all, You alone are Sovereign and before you all knees will bow The battle has already been decided and I thank You for that Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Nicodema Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Ed Dickerson said: Although I've never been into the occult at all, several years ago I was hearing inner voices of despair, telling me I was beyond hope, and even that I was not sincere in my desire to serve God. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Yes. That. The not sincere thing. Did it mindjob you to hell and back? It's like an endless loop: "well OK then, if that's the case, I repent of being insincere!" "Well you're not sincere about that, so it doesn't count." Multiply by infinity ad infinitum. But you have never been one with Satan, have you Ed. You have never had Him penetrate you, devour you, shatter your consciousness to pieces, and make you love every freaking moment of it as He leaves you writhing, screaming in ecstasy that crosses the threshhold of torture, begging for more until the fire is so hot, the meter so high, that but the slightest hair increment of increase in the intensity will utterly destroy you, take you away in death ... and you just don't care. You've never looked up with smoking eyes from the pit of hell into the Face of God standing over you ... and cringed with horror, twisting away, anything to avert that terrible gaze and the certain knowledge of your own inescapable doom. You've never felt the very blood sing and burn inside you in the night season, in the fall season, as if every force of nature: earth, moon, fire, stars, wind, water, storm, lightning, and the rich soil of the mother herself were calling your name, singing your praises, invoking you to appear and fulfill your destiny. You've never stared into the mirror like looking into the abyss itself, searching your own eyes, while your heart smites you with recognition ... how long do you think you can get away with this ... do you really imagine you can hide yourself in a non-descript human female and go undetected? ... do you really believe you can pass for human? Not to put too fine a point on it ... I have. I have wrestled for years uncertain whether I am simply the chosen Consort of Satan -- hand selected by Him mind you, He sought me at a time when I wanted nothing to do with Him -- or whether I am, in fact, the Infernal Majesty Himself taken flesh, gazing into the pool of his reified anima, enraptured like Narcissus. And you simply don't know what that's like. To live that. To feel that. To be that. One. And from there ... to try in any sense to deal with God. </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> I may have been mistaken in my actions, but they were not at all intended to silence you. Your heart-cry, and the last question about "love is as love does" stirred me deeply. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> With words such as these, it would be ignoble and ungracious of me to not accept your explanation. Very well; I accept it. Your intent was not to silence me. I shall not be sealed. If you desire, I shall continue to share. But I shall feign nothing for anyone's sake, no matter what compassion I have upon ye. Meanthewhile, I would hear more about how you were stirred. In particular, concerning my question about love. "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Administrators Gail Posted September 14, 2006 Administrators Posted September 14, 2006 Thank you, Nico, for sharing. I will continue to pray for peace for you. You have many friends here Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> And you simply don't know what that's like. To live that. To feel that. To be that. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> NO, I do not pretend to know that. But I do know that you were made to be part of the Bride of Christ, not Satan's Consort. And I know that though you may have experienced those things you describe, that is not who you *are,* only what has happened to you. And I know that whatever choices the evil one makes, Christ died to give *you* a choice. “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
Nicodema Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 I cannot escape what I am. Even when I've tried ... it follows me. It's there inside me. It's always there. I cannot escape it. What I am. What I know. I know what I am. "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Nicodema is a child of God. “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted September 14, 2006 Author Members Posted September 14, 2006 ::stands and watches intensely from high on the mount:: Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Nicodema Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Nicodema is the Habitation of all demons, a haven for every unclean spirit; wicked, perverse, reprobate, depraved, and irredeemable; the secret agent, consort, prisoner, love slave, and plaything of the Prince of Darkness. For all eternity!!! So your own have decreed!!! So your own have consigned!!!! So your own have thus bound, in heaven as upon the earth!!!! []http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_info/photos/lightning_bolt_1.jpg[/] "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
there buster Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> For all eternity!!! So your own have decreed!!! So your own have consigned!!! <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Not I. I have no such power. God has declared that Nicodema is set free for all eternity, if she wants. “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
Nicodema Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 She does NOT want. She knows better than that now. She knows such things are NOT available for her, and never will be. Getting her to think they are is a TRAP. She has walked into that trap a million times, and just as many times been snared!!! Never again. NEVER again. "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Pockey Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Nicodema said: She does NOT want. She knows better than that now. She knows such things are NOT available for her, and never will be. Getting her to think they are is a TRAP. She has walked into that trap a million times, and just as many times been snared!!! Never again. NEVER again. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Hi Nico. They are available to you. I want to share this with you: [:"blue"]No test or temptation that comes your way is beyond the course of what others have had to face. All you need to remember is that God will never let you down; he'll never let you be pushed past your limit; he'll always be there to help you come through it. 1 Corinthians 10:13 The Message.[/] Also: [:"red"]Greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4
Clio Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Nicodema said: Nicodema is the Habitation of all demons, a haven for every unclean spirit; wicked, perverse, reprobate, depraved, and irredeemable; the secret agent, consort, prisoner, love slave, and plaything of the Prince of Darkness. For all eternity!!! So your own have decreed!!! So your own have consigned!!!! So your own have thus bound, in heaven as upon the earth!!!! []http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_info/photos/lightning_bolt_1.jpg[/] <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Abba Father! I cry out to You on Nicodema's behalf. I have stood as You directed, I have continually lifted her in prayer before You. I stand before all assembled, Blood-Covenanted Child of the King, and I proclaim according to Mathew 16:19 and 18:18 that whatsoever be bound on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever be loosed on earth will be loosed in heaven. I stand in the Armor of Abba, fully armored, wearing the helmet of salvation, the breastplate of righteousness, the belt of Truth, the shoes of the gospel of Peace, the shield of Faith and carrying the Sword of the Spirit, the Living Word of Abba Father, revealing His mind. According to the power vested in me, by my Kinsman Redeemer True Jesus, I take authority over the scorpion and the powers of darkness and declare Nico a blood-bought child of the King of Kings, by the covenant of the Holy Blood of True Jesus. Abba, thank You for the keys to the Kingdom and the wit to use them! I bind Nico to all things of You alone. I bind her to the work of the cross, that she may receive into herself all that True Jesus died and paid for. And as one of Your Own, Papa God, I loose Nicodema from being Habitation of all demons, a haven for every unclean spirit; wicked, perverse, reprobate, depraved, and irredeemable; the secret agent, consort, prisoner, love slave, and plaything of the Prince of Darkness. For all eternity!!! I bind Nico to this healing reversal of all that others have proclaimed her to be... and loose her from the bonds placed upon her by others. I proclaim before the witnesses gathered here, seen and unseen, that Nico is a true Child of the King of Kings, His Grace is sufficient for all. I declare the lie spoken into her being. I bind her to the Truth of Abba, and loose her from agreements she has entered into that are based on lies. I bind a hedge of protection round about her, sealed with True Jesus Blood. I ask for mighty warrior angels to be gathered round about, to catch all the powers of darkness that would come against Nico from within or without. My Bridegroom, we have no desire for them. Take them, and do with them what you will. I deny the lies the Adversary uses to hold her captive, O my King in Your Name for You ARE. In True Jesus Name I deny the bonds that hold her, and loose her into freedom in True Jesus. I am a Child of the King of Kings and it is my right, duty, and privilege to speak in obedience to Your Will Abba. Swing Your mighty Sword my King and let the captives be free. Amen. A heart where He alone has first place.
Nicodema Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 These bonds cannot be broken until the ones who forged them are themselves broken--in full cognizant repentance--from then and now. Against my will was I taken, and only against my will may this be reversed. "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
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