Should we show an interest in the OWS movement?

[phkrause]

Yes 2 T's is correct, as far as an amusement park?? I don't think so!

[Tom Wetmore]

And EGW very clearly states that the Sabbath day is a day well suited for such acts of mercy and good deeds.

[doug yowell]

Yes 2 T's is correct, as far as an amusement park?? I don't think so!

He didn't own a berry farm before becoming Review editor?

[doug yowell]

My challenge with certain perspectives I seen posted in this thread is the simple parroting of GOP talking points and using EGW as a cover. She was always very balanced in her views.

And which of the GOP talking points would she have disagreed with?

[phkrause]

No he didn't. He was a pastor somewhere, and I believe before actually taking over as editor in chief he was an assistant editor for quite a number of years.

[olger]

He became an assistant in `97 I believe.

[John317]

May 1, 2012

The Occupy movement targeted May Day as the day "the people of the planet will take to the streets." Crowds formed in many major cities, joining protesters worldwide on International Workers Day to demand economic equality. But the day remained mostly peaceful. Promised stoppages of mass transportation and commerce by the Occupy movement largely fizzled across the country.

Overall, there were a modest number of arrests and clashes in a handful of cities. Many of the demonstrators reported splinter groups dressed mostly in black who turned demonstrations violent....

Seattle

Mayor Mike McGinn authorized a seizure of potential weapons after crowds of vandals dressed in black known as the "Black Bloc" smashed up banks and other businesses with sticks, batons, and rocks, reports the Seattle Times.

Niketown and American Apparel downtown were hit. A half dozen Starbucks closed early after stores reported broken windows.

At least two were arrested during the vandalism spree. Police said the vandals dressed in black were hard to track because they discarded their clothing to blend in with onlookers. Tear gas was used to stop some of the vandals.

The protesters also took out their anger at the U.S. Court of Appeals building, shooting paint balls at it, shattering glass doors, and attempting to ignite an incendiary device.

Los Angeles

Not officially part of Occupy, employees at Los Angeles International Airport joined May Day demonstrations to protest the hiring of non-union workers. Ten were arrested for blocking an intersection near LAX, reports CBS LA.

In another gathering in downtown, a group of protesters appeared to surround LAPD officers, reports the L.A. Times. A female officer was struck in the head with a skateboard, denting her helmet. She was taken to the hospital, but the injury was not life-threatening.

The incident marred a "festive" atmosphere during protests earlier in the day.

San Francisco Bay Area

In Oakland, police using tear gas confronted a protest of about 400 downtown. Nine were arrested and at least one demonstrator was reportedly tasered. Protesters blocked streets throughout the day and vandalized two banks in the area. A news van and police vehicle were also vandalized....

For pictures and source:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/occupy-may-day-mostly-quiet-160849836.html

[John317]

May 1, 2012

The Occupy movement targeted May Day as the day "the people of the planet will take to the streets." Crowds formed in many major cities, joining protesters worldwide on International Workers Day to demand economic equality. But the day remained mostly peaceful. Promised stoppages of mass transportation and commerce by the Occupy movement largely fizzled across the country.

Overall, there were a modest number of arrests and clashes in a handful of cities. Many of the demonstrators reported splinter groups dressed mostly in black who turned demonstrations violent....

....For pictures and source:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/occupy-may-day-mostly-quiet-160849836.html

I believe the evidence shows clearly that it would definitely have been a mistake for the Seventh-day Adventist Church to become involved in-- or connected with-- the Occupy Movement. I can't imagine Jesus either joining it or suggesting that anyone else join it. I also don't see how being involved in the Occupy Movement would have been in harmony with the proclamation or practicing of the Three Angels' Messages.

[olger]

http://greenliving.about.com/od/greenprograms/a/Occupy-Wall-Street-Environmental-Protest.htm

http://acgreens.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/green-sunday-the-occupy-movement-and-the-green-party/

http://grist.org/article/2011-10-29-occupy-wall-street-plans-green-sunday/

[doug yowell]

Would showing an interest include being interested in encouraging their demise?

[olger]

Start a movement, Doug !!!

[lazarus]

I can't imagine Jesus either joining it or suggesting that anyone else join it. I also don't see how being involved in the Occupy Movement would have been in harmony with the proclamation or practicing of the Three Angels' Messages.

Many Christians could not imagine Jesus supporting the civil rights movement. They thought it was the work of the devil. Like Solomon said, there is nothing new....

Their Jesus was the Jesus of the status quo. Adventists are not immune to that.

When the Adventist Review was nixing the Civil Rights Movement, E. E. Cleveland was embracing it, and calling "passivity" an offense against God.

[olger]

Good. Adventists (Christians) shouldn't go to war either.

[lazarus]

Good. Adventists (Christians) shouldn't go to war either.

Oh, all this time I misunderstood you. I thought you supported the war in Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

[doug yowell]

Many Christians could not imagine Jesus supporting the civil rights movement. They thought it was the work of the devil. Like Solomon said, there is nothing new....

Their Jesus was the Jesus of the status quo. Adventists are not immune to that.

When the Adventist Review was nixing the Civil Rights Movement, E. E. Cleveland was embracing it, and calling "passivity" an offense against God.

Equating the peaceful protests against the violation of basic human rights that were clearly enunciated in both the Holy Bible and the U.S. Constitution with the violent,anarchistic,rights violating actions of the Occupy movement is a little bit of a moral stretch,don't you think,laz? Would you have recommended that SDA's embrace the Operation Rescue movement of the 1980's,1990's?

[Overaged]

[Overaged]

Good. Adventists (Christians) shouldn't go to war either.

Dare I ask the question that just popped into my head the minute I read this?

[doug yowell]

Originally Posted By: olger

Good. Adventists (Christians) shouldn't go to war either.

Dare I ask the question that just popped into my head the minute I read this?

Yes.

[Stan]

The cause of OWS was just. The way they did it, INHO really LACKED, and worked backwards.

[olger]

Originally Posted By: olger

Good. Adventists (Christians) shouldn't go to war either.

Oh, all this time I misunderstood you. I thought you supported the war in Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

I forgive you. Don't do it no more.

[olger]

Originally Posted By: olger

Good. Adventists (Christians) shouldn't go to war either.

Dare I ask the question that just popped into my head the minute I read this?

Yes 2.0

Yes²

[Stan]

We should join the army of where we have our citizenship. A christian citizenship, the first one, should be in Heaven.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

[olger]

As Jack Sequeira told the egyptian boy Darwin, "Any egyptian should be willing to serve his country. But you are not an egyptian anymore. You are a citizen of a better country, and a servant of the Most High God."

[doug yowell]

We should join the army of where we have our citizenship. A christian citizenship, the first one, should be in Heaven.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

I second that motion.