Wingnut Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 We are the yeast in the dough. How much yeast is there compared to the dough? Quote
Wingnut Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 The kingdom of heaven now is like a mustard seed. How big is a mustard seed compared to the plant? Quote
Wingnut Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Pnatt - you mentioned blizzard conditions in a past post. Do you have snow there? Quote
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 42 minutes ago, pnattmbtc said: Why not? What you are talking about in being holy happens, supposedly, when we don't exist. But being desperately wicked happens when we actually exist, and is seen every day through child abuse and other horrible things. You could only assert that people are not desperately wicked by hiding your head in the sand (I heard this somewhere, can't remember where). 38 minutes ago, Wingnut said: Exactly. Seeing is believing. 34 minutes ago, Samie said: "Seeing is believing" comes short of faith which is the evidence of things not seen. 32 minutes ago, Wingnut said: Faith is not blind. 29 minutes ago, pnattmbtc said: Believing is seeing. I now understand these two brothers of mine talk of faith different from what is in Scriptures. NKJ Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 They said up to 14 inches, but it was a lot less than that. Looks like just under 4 inches. More in the mountains though. Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Wingnut Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 13 minutes ago, Samie said: I now understand these two brothers of mine talk of faith different from what is in Scriptures. NKJ Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Now I understand what faith is to you, the things you hope for, like life-rafts, all born saved, all undeceived, all in the BOL.... Quote
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 13 minutes ago, Samie said: I now understand these two brothers of mine talk of faith different from what is in Scriptures. NKJ Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. God through Christ made us holy and perfect on the cross, so Scriptures say. And I simply believe it. But hey, Pnatt & Wingnut complain, we were not yet born then; it's not possible. I now understand them. The faith they talk of is limited to what they can see. And that is far different from the faith that Scriptures describe. Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 14 minutes ago, Samie said: I now understand these two brothers of mine talk of faith different from what is in Scriptures. NKJ Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Does this mean anything to you? Can you explain it using other words? Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Samie, why is it important that we know the truth? How does the truth set us free? Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Wingnut Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 15 minutes ago, pnattmbtc said: They said up to 14 inches, but it was a lot less than that. Looks like just under 4 inches. More in the mountains though. It beats drought Quote
Wingnut Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 4 minutes ago, Samie said: God through Christ made us holy and perfect on the cross, so Scriptures say. And I simply believe it. But hey, Pnatt & Wingnut complain, we were not yet born then; it's not possible. I now understand them. The faith they talk of is limited to what they can see. And that is far different from the faith that Scriptures describe. Not only what I see, but what I see in the Bible. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I see most of the world as deceived and in darkness. The Bible says so too. The jury is in. The world IS deceived and in darkness. Faith is not the evidence of anything you wish for. Quote
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 There's one problem others have with me and my position. I simply believe what Scriptures say. I am not into explaining what Scriptures say, just like what somebody in this forum usually does. And he requires me to do what he does. Sorry, brother. I have a simple faith, the faith of Scriptures. I simply believe what Scriptures say, NOT what your explanations want Scriptures to have said but did not. Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, Wingnut said: Not only what I see, but what I see in the Bible. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I see most of the world as deceived and in darkness. The Bible says so too. The jury is in. The world IS deceived and in darkness. Faith is not the evidence of anything you wish for. Faith is evidence of things God hopes for. Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 3 minutes ago, Wingnut said: Not only what I see, but what I see in the Bible. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I see most of the world as deceived and in darkness. The Bible says so too. The jury is in. The world IS deceived and in darkness. Faith is not the evidence of anything you wish for. The faith you see in the Bible? Or the faith that you would have the Bible described but did not? Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 1 minute ago, Samie said: There's one problem others have with me and my position. I simply believe what Scriptures say. I am not into explaining what Scriptures say, just like what somebody in this forum usually does. And he requires me to do what he does. Sorry, brother. I have a simple faith, the faith of Scriptures. I simply believe what Scriptures say, NOT what your explanations want Scriptures to have said but did not. You can't explain what your words mean. Or why what you are thinking should be important. Or make any sense. You just repeat the same phrases over and over again, but cannot explain the meaning of anything. You don't seem to know why it's important to believe the truth. This is really important! I don't think you're scratching where it itches. Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, pnattmbtc said: Faith is evidence of things God hopes for. Scriptures: NKJ Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. That explains why somebody wants me to explain what the Bible says because he can eloquently explain it as evidenced above. Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Just now, Samie said: Scriptures: NKJ Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. That explains why somebody wants me to explain what the Bible says because he can eloquently explain it as evidenced above. Try again please. I couldn't understand what you were trying to say. Why won't you answer the questions regarding truth? Why is it important that we believe the truth? How does knowing the truth set us free? Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 You are bringing up an issue and you want me to discuss it for you? Instead of bothering others with your issue, why not discuss it yourself, brother? Quote
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 5 minutes ago, Samie said: Scriptures: NKJ Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. That explains why somebody wants me to explain what the Bible says because he can eloquently explain it as evidenced above. My brother explains the above verse as: 9 minutes ago, pnattmbtc said: Faith is evidence of things God hopes for. See, how eloquent his explanation is? Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 1 minute ago, Samie said: You are bringing up an issue and you want me to discuss it for you? Instead of bothering others with your issue, why not discuss it yourself, brother? Yes, I want you to discuss it. I don't think you know why knowing the truth is important. Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 1 minute ago, pnattmbtc said: Yes, I want you to discuss it. I don't think you know why knowing the truth is important. So why bother asking Samie in the first place when you knew all along Samie doesn't know why? Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, Samie said: So why bother asking Samie in the first place when you knew all along Samie doesn't know why? I didn't know all along. I thought you might have an answer. When you couldn't answer, then I knew. Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Samie Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 Then go ahead; discuss your own issue. Don't bother others with your own issue. Quote
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 My issue? Jesus said, "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." It is Jesus' issue. It's why He came to this earth. Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
pnattmbtc Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 It's late here now, so I need to leave. I'll give a nice answer tomorrow, but in brief, Jesus said "To know God is life eternal". That's a start. Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
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