Are the three Angels' Messages Dead or Alive?

[hch]

On 10/6/2016 at 5:30 PM, Martn said:

We'll hold you to it.

Thanks Martn

It has been a while since I heard from you. 

The situation has worsened and Iran will go to war with the US before January 20 2017 (My educated guess is that the war with Iran is what Mr. Obama will use to turn on the Constitution and stay in office.If he is out of office, that would not fit the prophecy as I currently understand it ).

This morning it came to my attention that the war could even come between now and November 1. We are in the 10 Days of Awe with Yom Kippur being next Tuesday-Wednesday. 

[hch]

1 hour ago, The Wanderer said:

I would still like to know what book and what page number these things of "tradition" are in, that you state above are printed somewhere.. Why are you evading the disclosure of this information, which should be pretty simple to provide, if, indeed, it is enclosed and entrenched so deeply in our past.

In the last few posts above you have used small one liners from something other than the Bible, to somehow show me "Bible truth.," about the three angel's message. I sincerely don't get that. I dont think you should criticize people as "Laodicean" for not understanding/accepting the Bible, when you show so little predisposition to use it in your own writings and "evidence."

I was blessed to not see this post until now.

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   Are you unaware of the development of unbiblical traditions?

   Example: Sunday sacredness is a tradition that can be traced back to Rome. But most folks don't have a clue. It is a tradition.

    

    

   The command to circumcise males is valid and well founded on God's word (Genesis). But by Paul's day, it had become a tradition that was no longer binding.

    

    

   Likewise, the the interpretation of the beasts in Daniel 7, that was Present Truth until the papacy had its deadly wound healed, has become a tradition that keeps more light from coming to the God's people just like the tradition that Christ's Cleansing the Sanctuary was thought to be His Second Advent. That tradition kept the Adventists from understanding the Investigative Judgment.

    

    

   The past truth from a study of Daniel 7 has become a tradition that is keeping folks like you my brother from seeing The Present Truth of the Third Angel's Messsage

[hch]

1 hour ago, The Wanderer said:

Which Bible verse says this and names Obama as such?

It is strange that you are asking this. Since you asked it in the past, I replied to it and then debunked my comments.

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Dan 7:11  "I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame."
Dan 7:12  "As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time."

Daniel 7:11 is followed by a caveat that explains it-- 7:12 identifies a season and a time which are a 91-year period. Reagan was 90 on 2/6/01 thus on 9/11/01 he was in his 91st year. The three earth-beasts that are identified are Reagan (lion's mouth great orator/head of gold Reaganomics), Bush I (bear/silver), and Clinton (leopard/brass midsection).

Pope John-Paul II spoke great words in Dies Domini when he reaffirmed RC teaching that God changed Sabbath to Sunday 

There will be burning flames at Christ's Coming when Bush II & Obama (2 men as 1 President like pagan and Papal Rome were one) will be consumed by Christ's Glory. 

"And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries" (Daniel 11:21).

estate is also translated foot: Bush II and Obama are the iron legs in Daniel 2 that extend iron down into the feet that they mix with clay (churchcraft= blending church and state) 

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The increased knowledge in Daniel 7 expands and explains Daniel 2, 7 and Revelation 13

Head of gold = Reagan (Reaganomics) = lion = lion's mouth

Chest and arms silver = Bush I = bear = bears feet

Brass midsection = Clinton = leopard = leopards features

Iron legs that extend into clay feet = Bush II and Obama = indescribable beast with iron teeth and brass nails= two lamblike horns on earth beast when papal beast transitions to earth beast

The earth beast in Revelation 13 only has 2 horns. NOT more

 

[hch]

1 hour ago, The Wanderer said:

I would still like to know what book and what page number these things of "tradition" are in, that you state above are printed somewhere.

Wanderer,

I never said that there was a book and page that identified the tradition. I just said that it was tradition that was keeping God's people from receiving more light. But I now that you have asked it again, I remember a book and page. It should help you:

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 The great error with churches in all ages has been to reach a certain point in their understanding of Bible truth and there stop. There they anchored. They ceased to "Go forward," as much as to say, "We have all-sufficient light. We need no more." And they refuse light.  {1888 826.2}  
     After the message of warning was given, a confederacy was formed that would not receive the message. They kept themselves barricaded, fearing that if they should evidence that they did receive light there was a trapdoor ready to let them through into some dangerous pit. The richest treasures of truth were opened before them. Every mind needed the jewels and gems that were revealed, but by confederating together they were deceived and their stakes were set fast. Thus have the nominal churches dealt with the message from heaven.  {1888 826.3}  

 

 

[hch]

5 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

I have been known to be or act strange.  
...There is and always has been only one "city" that comes under the qualifications of this verse. Thats one of many reasons your line of reasoning here is incorrect.

Because you have not been involved in the active proclamation of the 3 angels' messages as they have been repeated in Revelation 18, you are too willing to explain away what I have been blessed to learn over 20-years of prayerful Bible study.

It is easy for some folks to cherry pick at parts of the message when 90% of it has still not been studied in its entirety.

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In the order of God most wonderful and advanced truths would be proclaimed. The first and second angels' messages were to be proclaimed, but no further light was to be revealed before these messages had done their specific work.  {7BC 971.6}  

 

[hch]

4 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

It is important to read these scriptures regarding prophecy in the context that the Bible gives it. here, in Daniel 7:1 we read: "During the first year that Belshazzar was king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream. He saw these visions while he was lying on his bed, and he wrote what he had dreamed.The relationship of the people of God to the shifting political scenes was not a subject of that prophecy; either in Daniel 2 or Daniel 7.The prophecy of Daniel, chapter 7 covers essentially the same span of history as the dream of ch. 2, both reaching from the prophet’s day to the time of the establishment of the kingdom of God. Nebuchadnezzar saw the world powers represented by a great metallic image; Daniel saw them as symbolic beasts and horns, and saw also aspects of history related to the experience of God’s people and the outworking of His plan.

Chapter 2 deals largely with political matters. It was given, first of all, for the instruction of Nebuchadnezzar, to secure his cooperation in the divine plan (see on ch. 2:1).

During Nebuchadnezzar's second year as king, he had dreams. They bothered him, and he could not sleep.  (Daniel 2:1.

The relationship of the people of God to the shifting political scenes here were not a subject of that prophecy. The prophecy of ch. 7, like those of the remainder of the book, was given especially for the people of God in order that they might understand their part in the divine plan for the ages. The inspired preview of events was given against the background of the great controversy between Christ and Satan. The efforts of the enemy of souls to destroy the “holy people” were unveiled and the final victory of truth assured.

He wrote. So that it might be preserved for future generations.

 

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Read the book of Daniel. Call up, point by point, the history of the kingdoms there represented. Behold statesmen, councils, powerful armies, and see how God wrought to abase the pride of men, and lay human glory in the dust. God alone is represented as great. In the vision of the prophet He is seen casting down one mighty ruler, and setting up another. He is revealed as the monarch of the universe, about to set up His everlasting kingdom--the Ancient of days, the living God, the Source of all wisdom, the Ruler of the present, the Revealer of the future. Read, and understand how poor, how frail, how short-lived, how erring, how guilty is man in lifting up his soul unto vanity. . . .  {4BC 1166.4}  
     The light that Daniel received direct from God was given especially for these last days. The visions he saw by the banks of the Ulai and the Hiddekel, the great rivers of Shinar, are now in process of fulfillment, and all the events foretold will soon have come to pass (Letter 57, 1896).  {4BC 1166.5}  

Did you notice the coincidence. This was written 120-years ago 

[hch]

2 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

You have no way of knowing this about me or what I have been "actively involved in."  Just as you have no way to show the names of several US politicians as being pointed out in Bible prophecy. All Bible prophecy is about victory in Jesus over the great contoversy.  Bible prophecy does not mention Obama. The verses you keeo pointing out do not have his name anywhere in them.

I know that I have preached the 3 angels' messages of Revelation 14 as I understand that they apply to our day and as they have been repeated in Revelation 18.

The 2nd angel's message:

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 "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Revelation 18:2-4.

This is the fall of Pope Benedict in conjunction with the priests' fornication scandal. Between 9/30/2012 to 9/30/2012, I preached that he would not be pope after the spring of 2013. He left office in February 2013 within the timeframe that I understood according to the prophecy.

And there cannot be a 2nd angel's message without the first.

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"For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities" Revelation 18:5.

This is the First angel's announcement that the Hour (83-years 4-months from 14 October 1929 to 14 February 2013) allotted to Judge the Living has ended. It comes as a caveat to explain what preceded the 2nd angel's message. The sins reach Heaven in the Judgment Hour.

the third angel's message:

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"If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand" Revelation 14:9

I preach that President Obama is the man that will enforce the Mark of the Beast and compel the world to take it. The number of his name is made up to 666 and that he is identified in Daniel 2 & 7, and Revelation 5, 13, & 17.

Your posts have not confirmed my studies of the 3 angels' messages or encouraged me in any way. My understanding of the 3 angels' messages is not shared by you.

9 hours ago, hch said:

Because you have not been involved in the active proclamation of the 3 angels' messages as they have been repeated in Revelation 18, you are too willing to explain away what I have been blessed to learn over 20-years of prayerful Bible study.

It is easy for some folks to cherry pick at parts of the message when 90% of it has still not been studied in its entirety.

The evidence is what it is. But it is not too late to study the 3 angels' messages and to learn that which God has been pleased to reveal in His word. We are in the sealing portion of the Investigative Judgment and the Day of Atonement is nearing its close. Do not delay in praying that God would remove every barrier that could cast a shadow over His word. If we seek Him with all of our hearts, we will find Him and He will lead us into all truth. But if we presume that we have all the truth that we need, we will truly be Laodiceans who think that we have need of nothing. (they are rich in their own eyes and their fate is that of the "rich men")

I speak by faith. I cannot prove that everything that I teach (that is about to happen) is 100% accurate until it happens. This is as I understand it on the eve of Christ's Advent. When those things that are partially understood are fully known, I will grow in faith and knowledge. But there is ample evidence to support what I have shared and it is the Holy Spirit's office to impress truth on our hearts. The Lord Jesus loves us so much that He warns us of what we need to know that we might prepare to do the work that He would have us to do to save unsuspecting souls. If we neglect to give the right warning at the right time, how can we stand in His presence when He seeks the fruit that He commissioned us to bear?

[hch]

When Jeremiah and Hananiah presented conflicting prophecies in Jerusalem, judgment came upon Hananiah in the 7th month. We are now in the 7th month on the Jewish calendar that will end 1 November 2016.

A hurricane is sweeping up the eastern sea coast of the US and some weathermen are forecasting that it might loop back to the Bahamas and do it again. That is not the course hurricanes have usually taken. They frequently brush the coast and go toward the north Atlantic toward Europe or inland and dissipate. The judgments of God are in the land whether we know it or not.

As I understand Bible prophecy, President Obama's

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"heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land" (Daniel 11:28)

I do not know the timing of this but it will follow or cause: 

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"At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter. For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.  And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days" (Daniel 11:29-33)

America's actions in Syria could be that provocation to Iran. Is Mr. Obama's heart against America's Constitution? Is he doing exploits (that is an added word by the translators)?

Is the appointed time in the 7th month (from now through 1 November 2013)? I'm watching.  But it is before 1/20/2017 because he will be out of office by then, so in order to take any action against the Constitution, he has to do it while he has the authority to do it (before he leaves office). And the dual meaning is that he takes action against God's Covenant which are the Ten Commandments i.e., to set up the Sunday Law abomination that destroys (makes desolate) those who take the Mark of the Beast.

God knows the exact timing and we can see that it is almost upon us.

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We cannot fail to see that the end of the world is soon to come. Satan is working upon the minds of men and women, and many seem filled with a desire for amusement and excitement. As it was in the days of Noah, every kind of evil is on the increase. Divorce and marriage is the order of the time. At such a time as this, the people who are seeking to keep the commandments of God should look for retired places away from the cities. Some must remain in the cities to give the last note of warning, but this will become more and more dangerous to do. Yet the truth for today must come to the world--truth as spoken by the lips of Him who understood the end from the beginning. [Matthew 7:13, 14 quoted.]  {10MR 261.4}

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Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 

Take the time to go to {10MR 261.4} and read the next few paragraphs. They are available online at EGWhite Estates if you do not have the disc. I did not post them here lest someone should get the wrong impression and read something into my intentions or statements that are not there.

[hch]

1 hour ago, The Wanderer said:

"I preached" "I studied" "I know" "I speak by faith"  All of your posts on this topic are filled with "I" trouble

What I have quoted, from your last post, is what I rest my case on.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Tim 2:15)

Bible reasons are needed in order to say "we have the truth."

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But beware of rejecting that which is truth. The great danger with our people has been that of depending upon men, and making flesh their arm. Those who have not been in the habit of searching the Bible for themselves, or weighing evidence, have confidence in the leading men, and accept the decisions they make, and thus many will reject the very messages God sends to His people, if these leading brethren do not accept them.  {GW92 126.4}

Christian regards

[hch]

5 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

The testing truth for this time is not the fabrication of any human mind. It is from God. It is genuine philosophy to those who appropriate it. Christ became incarnate in order that we, through belief of the truth, might be sanctified and redeemed. Let those who hold the truth in righteousness arouse, and go forth, shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace, to proclaim the truth to those who know it not. Let them make straight paths for their feet, lest the lame be turned out of the way.  {PUR, December 17, 1903 par. 24}

Amen! But the testing truth in 1903 is not the final warning that is to prepare a people to meet their God.

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We have a sacred message to bear to the world. The Third Angel's Message is not a theory of man's inventing, a speculation of the imagination; but it is the solemn truth of God for these last days. It is the final warning to the perishing souls of men. It is not a system of truth simply to gratify and please the intellect; it means diligent and sacrificing labor to all who accept its holy teaching. The commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus must be brought to the attention of the world. The tidings of the coming of the Saviour must be proclaimed. The Judgment scenes must be portrayed before the unenlightened minds of men, and hearts must be aroused to realize the solemnity of the closing hours of probation, and prepare to meet their God.  {RH, March 13, 1888 par. 1}  

 

[hch]

Yesterday:

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A US Navy destroyer has been targeted in a failed missile attack from territory in Yemen controlled by Houthi rebels, a US military spokesman says...

Saudi Arabia and the United States blame Iran for supplying weapons to the Houthis. Tehran views the Houthis, who are from a Shia sect, as the legitimate authority in Yemen but denies it supplies them with weapons.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/navy-ship-targeted-missile-attack-yemen-161010034052132.html

 

The king of the north (Obama) is about to be attacked by the king of the south (Iran) and Mr Obama will move against the US Constitution to continue in office beyond his time. Then he will turn against God's Covenant by implementing the national Sunday law.

IT IS TIME TO ACCEPT the 3rd angel's message, believe it, and proclaim it in conjunction with the power of the fourth Angel that is enlightening the world. Delaying to do our duty is not of the Lord!

[hch]

5 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

The three angels message is different than your message and its about Jesus not Obama

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The three angels' messages are to be combined, giving their threefold light to the world. In the Revelation, John says, "I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory." [Revelation 18:2-5 quoted.] This represents the giving of the last and threefold message of warning to the world (MS 52, 1900).  {7BC 985.6}

 

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The light that Christ revealed to His servant the prophet is for us. In His revelation are given the three angels' messages, and a description of the angel that was to come down from heaven with great power, lightening the earth with his glory. In it are warnings against the wickedness that would exist in the last days, and against the mark of the beast. We are not only to read and understand this message, but to proclaim it with no uncertain sound to the world. By presenting these things revealed to John, we shall be able to stir the people.  {19MR 41.1}  

 

The messages in Revelation 18 that fulfill the prophecy are:

1) Message 2 Babylon is fallen - Pope Benedict resigned because of his priests' fornication (18:2-4)
2) Message 1 The time allotted for the Judgment Hour of the living has ended- sins have reached Heaven (18:5)
3) Message 3 President Obama is soon to implement - enforce the Mark of the Beast (18:9, 24)

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Revelation 18 points to the time when, as the result of rejecting the threefold warning of Revelation 14:6-12, the church will have fully reached the condition foretold by the second angel, and the people of God, still in Babylon, will be called upon to separate from her communion. This message is the last that will ever be given to the world; and it will accomplish its work. When those that “believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness,” [2 Thessalonians 2:12.] shall be left to receive strong delusion, and to believe a lie, then the light of truth will shine upon all whose hearts are open to receive it, and all the children of the Lord, that remain in Babylon, will heed the call, “Come out of her, my people.” [Revelation 18:4.]  {GC88 390.2} 

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There are those who will misinterpret the messages that God has given, in accordance with their spiritual blindness.  {1SM 41.5}

And it remains to be seen who these are. But as I read the prophecies, it will not be much longer before faith gives way to sight.

[hch]

On 10/11/2016 at 7:56 PM, The Wanderer said:

You can quote all the stuff like this you want but it is all out of context and has nothing to do with what scripture says regarding the testing message which you reject for the  sake of your Obama prophecy. His name is not anywhere in the Bible; neither is any other current day politician...

Your testimony bears witness as to how you read the word.

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The perils of the last days are upon us, and in our work we are to warn the people of the danger they are in. Let not the solemn scenes which prophecy has revealed be left untouched. If our people were half awake, if they realized the nearness of the events portrayed in the Revelation, a reformation would be wrought in our churches, and many more would believe the message. We have no time to lose; God calls upon us to watch for souls as they that must give an account. Advance new principles, and crowd in the clear-cut truth. It will be as a sword cutting both ways. But be not too ready to take a controversial attitude. There will be times when we must stand still and see the salvation of God. Let Daniel speak, let the Revelation speak, and tell what is truth. But whatever phase of the subject is presented, uplift Jesus as the center of all hope, ‘the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright and morning Star.’ Revelation 22:16.” 6T 61.4

[hch]

According to NPR --It happened again.

The king of the south's (Iran's) proxy (Yemen) fired 2 more rockets at the king of the north's (American) naval vessel. The ship took defensive measures and there was no damage. The US is considering its options for retaliation.

FYI:

“Iran will target American aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf should a war between the two countries ever break out, the naval chief of Iran’s powerful Revolutionary Guard warned...” “Aircraft carriers are the symbol of America’s military might,” he said.”The carriers are responsible for supplying America’s air power. So, it’s natural that we want to sink the carriers.” “The Nimitz-class carriers used by the United States could be seriously damaged or destroyed if 24 missiles were fired simultaneously.” http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/u-s-carriers-will-be-target-iranian-warns/article_62424e62-d54a-11e3-bbad-10604b9ffe60.html 

Obama’s military advisors shrug off Iran’s comment. But I found it significant that Iran has determined the number of strikes that it would take to sink our aircraft carriers. And Iran has shown that it has applied that knowledge.

You may recall that Iran intercepted two American Navy patrol boats that entered Iranian territorial waters. When Iran seized the American patrol boats, Iran had multiple armed speed boats readied to engage the American aircraft carrier that was nearby. Kerry defused the situation quickly, BUT Iran had lots of little boats prepared to simultaneously engage our aircraft carrier at a moment's notice. That is noteworthy

 

[JoeMo]

UPDATE:  US destroyed 3 Yemeni coastal radar sites today; and Iran has deployed warships in the gulf of Aden.

[Martn]

On 10/8/2016 at 0:41 AM, hch said:

Iran will go to war with the US before January 20 2017

America and Iran are at odds, and while that may never change, prophecy does not see them at war with each other, but rather joined increasingly through a common ally, Turkey, along with the rest of Europe, as well as Russia, Libya, and Egypt, including of course Jordan and others, as the fortunes of Wahab (ISIS and the Saudis, etc.) decline.

In the years and decades ahead we will see Turkey, king of the north, take the leading role, throughout the whole region.

While this can be generally a force for good, if Turkey, corrupted by the euphoria of power, should dare go up against Israel and become the new Hitler, they shall fall without hand and none shall help them. Gog and Magog (Caucasus and the people of Caucasus) will not stand against the people of God.

[JoeMo]

45 minutes ago, Martn said:

In the years and decades ahead we will see Turkey, king of the north, take the leading role, throughout the whole region.

"The word of the Lord came to me: ² “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of^[a]Meshek and Tubal; prophesy against him ³ and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of^[b] Meshek and Tubal. ⁴ I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. ⁵ Persia, Cush^[c] and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, ⁶ also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you." (Ezek 38:1-6)

All of the underlined nations except Persia were located  in/around modern day Turkey  back in Zeke's time.  Persia is modern-day Iran; so I think Iran will be involved in end-time events - possibly with the U.S. if there is still a U.S when the end occurs.

[hch]

13 hours ago, Martn said:

America and Iran are at odds, and while that may never change, prophecy does not see them at war with each other...

It would lengthen our tranquility if you should be right

But woe to them who cry peace and safety and quiet the conscience when the people need to be awakened to their danger.

[hch]

1 hour ago, The Wanderer said:

Do you honestly think that the US Destroyers have no defence against such attacks by little boys boats and AGING ALMOST USELESS SCUD missiles?

We serve a God who governs and is in control of the affairs of all nations and nowhere in any of His prophecies does he say that He depends on any one political leader to do what Satan himself will be busy doing. Please recall that he will appear as an angel of light...not in a few dozen little speed boats with poor performance and lousy aim. We are also told in Scripture that "there will be wars and rumors of wars..." but that is not the end!!"  All we need is the Bible and all your many mysteries will melt away in the truth and light of Christ our Lord.

I think...the Lord knows what He is saying in His word!

Babylon was an impregnable fortress, when it fell on October 13 538 BC.

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The sacrifice of Christ as an atonement for sin is the great truth around which all other truths cluster. In order to be rightly understood and appreciated, every truth in the Word of God, from Genesis to Revelation, must be studied in the light that streams from the cross of Calvary. I present before you the great, grand monument of mercy and regeneration, salvation and redemption--the Son of God uplifted on the cross. This is to be the foundation of every discourse given by our ministers.--Gospel Workers, p. 315. (1915) 

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All the great truths of the Scriptures center in Christ; rightly understood, all lead to Him. Let Christ be presented as the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, of the great plan of redemption. Present to the people such subjects as will strengthen their confidence in God and in His Word, and lead them to investigate its teachings for themselves. And as they go forward, step by step, in the study of the Bible, they will be better prepared to appreciate the beauty and harmony of its precious truths.--Review and Herald, June 13, 1912. 

 

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God is the author of science. Scientific research opens to the mind vast fields of thought and information, enabling us to see God in His created works. Ignorance may try to support skepticism by appealing to science; but instead of upholding skepticism, true science contributes fresh evidences of the wisdom and power of God. Rightly understood, science and the written word agree, and each sheds light on the other. Together they lead us to God by teaching us something of the wise and beneficent laws through which He works.  {CT 426.2}  

 

[hch]

Christ teaches us in the parable of the ten virgins, that some go by sight and some go by faith. Jesus also teaches that the wheat and the tares grow together until the harvest. Thus He teaches that some think that they are wise who are fools. 

Is it a mystery how people can read the same word of God and not agree on its meaning? No! It is the great Controversy, the battle for our souls that will intensify until Jesus comes.

God's word is not given to make smarter sinners. It is given to prepare those who watch that they will be ready to meet Jesus! 

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We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.  2 Peter 1:19-21

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Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at My mouth, and give them warning from Me.  When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.  Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.  Ezekiel 3:17-19

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True education means much. We have no time now to spend in speculative ideas, or in haphazard movements. The evidences that the coming of Christ is near are many and are very plain, and yet many who profess to be looking for Him are asleep. We are not half as earnest as we ought to be to gather up the important truths that are for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Unless we understand the importance of passing events, and make ready to stand in the great day of God, we shall be registered in the books of heaven as unfaithful stewards. The watchman is to know the time of the night. Everything is now clothed with a solemnity that all who believe the truth should feel and understand. They should act in reference to the great day of God.  {8MR 154.3}  

 

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3 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

Do you honestly think that the US Destroyers have no defence against such attacks by little boys boats and AGING ALMOST USELESS SCUD missiles?...

I was not aware that some of the newer US navel vessels were made of aluminum. This link is insightful

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/5448/images-show-a-badly-damaged-hsv-2-swift-following-attack-off-yemeni-coast

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On 10/13/2016 at 1:57 PM, JoeMo said:

UPDATE:  US destroyed 3 Yemeni coastal radar sites today; and Iran has deployed warships in the gulf of Aden.

Gradually almost imperceptibly upping the stakes until someone oversteps his bounds and the other party retaliates. 

Then it rapidly spins out of control 

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3 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

Obama is not required by God for mark of the beast hub bub and I am predicting obama wont be in office when the next big war hits

Do you have any Scripture to validate your prediction?

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9 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

All you are doing lately is quotung "SOP"  I doubt you would acceot it. The sinple fact is you just 'cannot name or find one place with the name Barack Obama in not in one single bible verse. If it is show h'The proof is not in one sc ripture

I am aware of two Bible passages that name his name according to some Bible students. But God often gives us symbolism to reveal truth. For example: The United States is identified in Revelation 13, but it does not say United States.

An old preacher was once asked to prove that the USA was identified in Bible prophecy. His reply JerUSAlem.

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8 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

When you show one verse with Ob,amas name in it ill

It is easier for me to find a verse with Obama's name (Barak) in them than you to find one to say " Obama is not required by God for mark of the beast "

God's word will not return to Him void:

“People of the LORD...awake, awake… arise, Barak, and lead thy captivity captive...” (Judges 5:11-12).