The Vision of Isaiah 2:1-5 Soon to be Fulfilled

[TrevorL]

The Vision of Isaiah 2:1-5 Soon to be Fulfilled

The vision of Isaiah 2:1-5 depicts the aftermath of the Battle of Armageddon, when Jesus will have returned to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth, with the Temple built and Jesus will be reigning as King / Priest on the Throne of David in Jerusalem. The significant remnant of the Jews will be converted and the surrounding nations subjected. These nations will come up to Jerusalem to worship and to learn God’s ways.

Isaiah 2:1–5 (KJV): 1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. 5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.

Events have been happening slowly, but the pace may quicken up and we need to be prepared for the return of Jesus. The Temple was destroyed in AD 70, and the Jews were taken into captivity and Jerusalem had been trodden down by the Gentiles for most of the last 2000 years Luke 21:24. But there has been a gradual progress towards the fulfilment of Isaiah 2. There have been many contributing factors, and many milestones. Mentioning a few, there was Theodor Herzl and his advocacy of a Jewish State in 1897, the Balfour Declaration in 1917, the gradual return of the Jews to the Holy Land as prophesied, the formation of the State of Israel 1947-1948, the recapture of Jerusalem in 1967 in fulfilment of the 2300 years of Daniel 8:13-14. We have yet to determine the outcome of the present troubles, and most probably things will settle down for a while, but possibly it will set up and precipitate the events surrounding the Battle of Armageddon.

Blessed is he that watches and loves the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ who will soon come to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth as prophesied in Isaiah 2:1-5, Revelation 16:15, 2 Timothy 4:1,6-8.

Kind regards Trevor

[JoeMo]

Thanks for the reminder, Trevor. I believe (my studied opinion - not my "doctrine") is that the second coming is a rolling 3-1/2 or 7 years away yet.  The opening of the first seal of Revelation - the appearance of the Beast/Antichrist - has yet to occur.  Most Christians are swallowing the lies about Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Q-Anon, critical race theory, unconditional tolerance, and ... I could go on and on. IMHO, we are in the birthpangs of the tribulation. I have yet to see any significant sign of Israel mourning  Him whom they have pierced.

That being said, some of the end-time events could be right around the corner. Although I have poo-pooed the idea of the papacy being the Beast/Antichrist, I now believe the current pope is a prime candidate.

[TrevorL]

Greetings JoeMo,

16 hours ago, JoeMo said:

the second coming is a rolling 3-1/2 or 7 years away yet

I do not accept this view.

16 hours ago, JoeMo said:

The opening of the first seal of Revelation - the appearance of the Beast/Antichrist - has yet to occur.

I believe that the first seal was fulfilled soon after AD96. I accept the continuous historical view of the Book of Revelation.  

Kind regards Trevor

[JoeMo]

On 5/16/2021 at 12:56 AM, TrevorL said:

I accept the continuous historical view.

I don't.  I'm a loyal futurist.

[phkrause]

On 5/16/2021 at 2:56 AM, TrevorL said:

I accept the continuous historical view of the Book of Revelation.

Absolutely!! 

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/15/2021 at 3:36 AM, TrevorL said:

The vision of Isaiah 2:1-5 depicts the aftermath of the Battle of Armageddon, when Jesus will have returned to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth, with the Temple built and Jesus will be reigning as King / Priest on the Throne of David in Jerusalem. The significant remnant of the Jews will be converted and the surrounding nations subjected. These nations will come up to Jerusalem to worship and to learn God’s ways.....

I believe that the first seal was fulfilled soon after AD96. I accept the continuous historical view of the Book of Revelation.....

I accept the continuous historical view of the Book of Revelation.

Let me say to all those who commented, the Bible speaks for itself whether it is futuristic or not! I also, very clearly about who the beast is not and when and who will fight in the battle of Armageddon. We need to just read it and stop trying to interpret it! 

First, let's clear up this false belief about who are the Jews.

The Jews admit that they are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites in their writings.

STRICTLY SPEAKING IT IS INCORRECT TO CALL AN ANCIENT ISRAELITE A ‘ JEW' OR TO CALL A CONTEMPORARY JEW AN ISRAELITE OR A HEBREW." (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3)

Khazars, confederation of Turkic and Iranian tribes that established a major commercial empire in the second half of the 6th century, covering the southeastern section of modern European Russia...In the middle of the 8th century the ruling
classes adopted Judaism as their religion." Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition)

Now, that DNA is here the facts do not lie: New genetic study: More evidence for modern Ashkenazi Jews’ ancient Hebrew patrimony, A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages. There is more and Hebrew University wants to keep the lie going. However they have to admit that there is more of Caucasians through Iran (Medes and Persia) and Russia (Magog) in the genes.

The Bible clearly state this:

 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of YAHWEH thy ELOHIYM, to observe to do all HIS Commandments and HIS Statute which I Command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto THE VOICE of YAHWEH thy ELOHIYM to observe to do all HIS Commandments and HIS Statutes which I Command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long: and there shall be no might in thine hand.  Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto THE VOICE of YAHWEH thy ELOHIYM, to keep HIS Commandments and HIS Statutes which HE Commanded thee: And YAHWEH shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other elohim, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.  Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearken not unto THE VOICE of YAHWEH thy ELOHIYM, to keep HIS Commandments and HIS Statutes which HE Commanded thee: Deut 28:15,32,64 WOY

You cannot find any DNA of the Hebrews, nor the Assyrians nor the Elamites. You can find the Hebrew and Assyrians writing which both accepted the ancient language of the Afrikan people. Both the Akkadian and the Paleo Phoenicians and that is it! The Yiddish came from the Slavo-Iranian Jewish merchants, who traded up and down the silk road. The Elamites mixed with the Cushites and they adopted the Elamites language. Today it still has not been deciphered. This is the true Semitic language.

There is no Scripture that states YAHSHUA will PRIEST KING over a Jerusalem by David. The Temple that YAHSHUA is PRIEST over is already built in Heaven.

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an HIGH PRIEST, who is set on THE RIGHT HAND of the Throne of THE MAJESTY in the Heavens; a MINISTER of the Sanctuary, and of the TRUE Tabernacle, which THE SOVEREREIGN pitched, and not man. Heb 8:1

The Jews are not the ancient Israel. However, those like all who will be selected to be a part of the remnant that YAHSHUA select who will keep all of ELOHIYM, THE FATHERS Commandments, which included HIS SACRED NAME YAHWEH and the TRUE Sabbath. The Bible said that HIS HOUSE will be for all people. If you read Rev 7, the word tribe it means offshoot for each son of Jacob and one son of Joseph. Notice that Dan and Ephraim are missing. If you study Gen 35:23-25; 49; Ex 1:2-4; Nums 1:5-15; 26; 1 Chronicles 2-8.  Judah ended up being first then Ruben both Manasseh and Ephraim became a part of the twelth, now under Joseph. They were both recognized at this time but neither of them but they were not part of the twelfth because of all of Jacob's sons were still counted. But by the time of Revelation Chapter 7 both Dan and Ephraim are removed. Ephraim was first accepted being the oldest replace Dan. Read why they both left and lost their entire tribe of people. 1 Kings 12:25-33

Finally, these offshoot will become the Children of IsraEL and do what the ancient ones did not do. They will bring in people (the great multitude) in to the truth of keeping all HIS Commandments and Statutes. 

The seals have not taken place and if you read the first four have to do with nature. You need to read Dan 12:9, Gabriel told him to that book will be sealed until the time of the end. That time is now and the book that is open the continuation of Daniel and Revelation. If you read them they both speak things that similar but Revelation shows YAHSHUA in THE HOLY PLACE and HE enters in to THE MOST HOLY PLACE where HIS FATHER was sitting. The Bible first describe THE MOST HOLY PLACE, in Heaven there is a door that you must enter to get in THE MOST HOLY PLACE. I will continue!

Happy Sabbath and be Bless!

[TrevorL]

Greetings Stinsonmarri, 

15 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

The seals have not taken place

The part of your post regarding who are Jews seems very unusual and you have copied and pasted this before. I believe that the Throne of David will be in Jerusalem upon the earth. I believe that the six seals cover the period from AD96 to AD 312.

Kind regards Trevor 

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/23/2021 at 7:37 AM, TrevorL said:

Greetings Stinsonmarri, 

The part of your post regarding who are Jews seems very unusual and you have copied and pasted this before. I believe that the Throne of David will be in Jerusalem upon the earth. I believe that the six seals cover the period from AD96 to AD 312.

Kind regards Trevor 

Trevor you cannot go against the Bible with your belief.

The Revelation of YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH, which ELOHIM  gave unto HIM, to show unto HIS servants things which must shortly come to pass; and HE sent and signified it by HIS angel unto HIS servant John: Rev 1:1  

John did not die until around 100 BC, and you cannot explain the rider of the first seal. Who's the rider and the bow in his hand?

 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Rev 6:2

All of us past including you. What I paste came from the Jewish Almanac and other sources. You did not have to believe the sources. Can you prove different many of the Hebrews did not return to Jerusalem. They stayed in Babylon and have you read Esther. When the king told the Hebrews to fight to protect themselves, other people joined the religion and this was Persia who is Iran today. People from the Caucus area which includes Turkey to Russia and they did not married until after the destruction of the temple in 70 when Israel in Jerusalem were dispersed as the Bible predicted. I pasted that two!

Blessings!

[TrevorL]

Greetings again Stinsonmarri,

13 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

John did not die until around 100 BC, and you cannot explain the rider of the first seal. Who's the rider and the bow in his hand?

There have been many expositors and commentators who have accepted the continuous historic understanding of Daniel 2 and the Seals, Trumpets and Vials of the Book of Revelation. I have a list of more than 50 expositors who endorse the view that the 1st Seal covers from the 1st Century in the time of the Apostle John when the Pagan Roman Empire was at peace and the Gospel was able to be preached. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th Seals cover the decline of the Pagan Roman Empire with successive war, famine and plague periods.

13 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Can you prove different many of the Hebrews did not return to Jerusalem. They stayed in Babylon and have you read Esther.

The Jews were in the land of Israel in the time of Christ and the Apostles, and the Jews have returned to the land of Israel today as prophesied in Ezekiel 38 and many other prophecies in readiness for the return of Jesus who will sit upon the Throne of David in Jerusalem as depicted in Isaiah 2:1-5.

Kind regards Trevor

[B/W Photodude]

On 5/16/2021 at 2:56 AM, TrevorL said:

I do not accept this view.

 

 

I don't think I have seen anything in this thread that I accept!

[Gustave]

Its not making any sense to me and not to proud to say this. 

[TrevorL]

Greetings B/W Photodude and Gustave,

6 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

I don't think I have seen anything in this thread that I accept!

 

4 hours ago, Gustave said:

Its not making any sense to me and not to proud to say this.

Possibly you are waiting to be taken to heaven some time after a universal proclamation of a Sunday Law. Then you also anticipate that the earth burned and desolate for the 1000 years. Prophecy tells a different story and the problems concerning the status of Jerusalem, especially the eastern part and the Temple Mount, will increase and set the stage for Zechariah 14:1-2 and the rest of Zechariah 14 and also Isaiah 2:1-5, Ezekiel 38, Daniel 2:44, Daniel 7:27 and Micah 4:1-8 to be fulfilled. East Jerusalem is where our Lord was crucified. He is the descendant of Abraham to inherit the Land with the faithful during the 1000 years Genesis 13:14-15, Galatians 3:8,16,26-29, and this is part of the True Gospel, not heaven going. Many or most SDAs may yet suffer the second great disappointment unless they start to read the detail of the prophets and the teaching of Jesus and the Apostles correctly. 

Kind regards Trevor

[Gustave]

8 hours ago, TrevorL said:

Greetings B/W Photodude and Gustave,

 

Possibly you are waiting to be taken to heaven some time after a universal proclamation of a Sunday Law. Then you also anticipate that the earth burned and desolate for the 1000 years. Prophecy tells a different story and the problems concerning the status of Jerusalem, especially the eastern part and the Temple Mount, will increase and set the stage for Zechariah 14:1-2 and the rest of Zechariah 14 and also Isaiah 2:1-5, Ezekiel 38, Daniel 2:44, Daniel 7:27 and Micah 4:1-8 to be fulfilled. East Jerusalem is where our Lord was crucified. He is the descendant of Abraham to inherit the Land with the faithful during the 1000 years Genesis 13:14-15, Galatians 3:8,16,26-29, and this is part of the True Gospel, not heaven going. Many or most SDAs may yet suffer the second great disappointment unless they start to read the detail of the prophets and the teaching of Jesus and the Apostles correctly. 

Kind regards Trevor

I don't believe in a "millennium". There is one Resurrection.  

[Rahab]

10 hours ago, Gustave said:

I don't believe in a "millennium". There is one Resurrection.  

Rev 20:5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 
Rev 20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 

[Gustave]

4 hours ago, Rahab said:

Rev 20:5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 
Rev 20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 

Matthew 13, 24 -43

Matthew 16,27

John 5, 28

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings again Gustave,

2 hours ago, Gustave said:

Matthew 13, 24 -43 Matthew 16,27 John 5, 28

I understand all of the above to be referring to the resurrection at the return of Jesus before the establishment of the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years, the same era as depicted in the OP Isaiah 2:1-5. Daniel 12:2-3 suggests that only some of the dead will be raised, at the beginning of the 1000 years, both faithful and unfaithful.

Kind regards Trevor

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/27/2021 at 5:02 AM, TrevorL said:

Greetings again Stinsonmarri,

There have been many expositors and commentators who have accepted the continuous historic understanding of Daniel 2 and the Seals, Trumpets and Vials of the Book of Revelation. I have a list of more than 50 expositors who endorse the view that the 1st Seal covers from the 1st Century in the time of the Apostle John when the Pagan Roman Empire was at peace and the Gospel was able to be preached. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th Seals cover the decline of the Pagan Roman Empire with successive war, famine and plague periods.

The Jews were in the land of Israel in the time of Christ and the Apostles, and the Jews have returned to the land of Israel today as prophesied in Ezekiel 38 and many other prophecies in readiness for the return of Jesus who will sit upon the Throne of David in Jerusalem as depicted in Isaiah 2:1-5.

Kind regards Trevor

Dear Trevor: Two things these were not the Jews and the prophecy never took place. YAHWEH was showing IsraEL even before HIS SON would come and die; HE showed that HE would protect them. If they would obey HIM, they never did! The Temple that Ezekiel saw never took place also because would not obey!

This was the time of sacrifice:

 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid. Eze 39:26 

No one dwell safely in that land today. And sacrifices, they are gone which represented YAHWEH'S SON would soon died. To show you that what you state is based on commentators who will not accept HIS NAME. Neither do you and these Chapters 38-48 dealt with a promise to be fulfilled. The Temple Ezekiel saw also had a Burnt altar. This way if IsraEL would spread the True Message to the other nations and become the True priest like Melchizedek. However, sadly the never did exactly what warned the would do, they did. Deut Chapter 28 They their own children twice when both temples were destroyed. 

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

11 hours ago, TrevorL said:

Greetings again Gustave,

I understand all of the above to be referring to the resurrection at the return of Jesus before the establishment of the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years, the same era as depicted in the OP Isaiah 2:1-5. Daniel 12:2-3 suggests that only some of the dead will be raised, at the beginning of the 1000 years, both faithful and unfaithful.

Kind regards Trevor

Trevor: You see the New Yerushalom is coming from out of Heaven, after the earth is made New.

 And I saw a New heaven and a New earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev 21:1

No one even mentions that there will be no more sea  and the Greek word means no more salt water.

And I John saw the Holy City, New Yerushalom, coming down from ELOHIYM out of Heaven, prepared as a Bride adorned for her HUSBAND. And I heard a GREAT VOICE out of Heaven saying, Behold, THE TABERNACLE of ELOHIYM is with men, and HE will dwell with them, and they shall be HIS people, and ELOHIYM HIMSELF shall be with them, and be their ELOHIYM. Rev 21:2, 3 

These people are comprise of two group. The group is called IsraEL again, no longer the nation that was destroyed over 2,000 years ago. They said let us and our children' blood be on the death of YAHSHUA. That sealed their fate as a Hebrew Semitic nation. Deut Chapter 28 was finalized. So, those today that have stood royally and kept HIS Commandment will become IsraEL. To prove it not all twelve brothers nor one nephew did not make it! But those who did will received the honor to have a gate showing he overcame. He will have others of all nationality to walk through the gate they struggle with the worse sin like them and overcame. THE FATHER'S HOUSE will be an HOUSE for all people. The selected 144,000 will be commission to finish the work ancient Israel did not ever do!

The new selected IsraEL today do not need an earthly temple. They will witness soon to the great great multitude with THE POWER of THE HOLY SPIRIT and their faith. The will show that YAHSHUA is in THE TABERNACLE not made by the people of this earth.

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an HIGH PRIEST, who is set on THE RIGHT HAND Throne of THE MAJESTY in the Heavens; A MINISTER of THE SANCTUARY, and of the TRUE TABERNACLE, which THE SOVEREIGN pitched, and not man. For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that THIS MAN have somewhat also to offer. Heb 8:1, 2, 3 

Then verily the first Covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. THE HOLY SPIRIT this signifying, that the way into THE HOLIEST of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: But THE MESSIAH being come an HIGH PRIEST of good things to come, by a GREATER and more PERFEICT TABLENACLE, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: Heb 9:1, 8, 11-13   

You and others including the Israeli are bias over a people instead listening to YAHWEH! Many felled to believer that YAHWEH came to the Canaanites first when all evidence even the KJV points to it. They were suppose destroyed. Why? Because they knew YAHWEH and Melchizedek and the King of Sodom proved it. They both were standing together when Abraham presented the tithe (funny never mention before, but they all understood it!), to the King Priest Melchizedek of THE MOST HIGH! That is because all three knew THE MOST HIGH!

For this is the Covenant that I will make with the house of IsraEL after those days, saith YAHWEH I will put my Laws into their mind and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them an ELOHYM, and they shall be to ME a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know YAHWEH: for all shall know ME, from the least to the greatest. Heb 8:10,11 

If you fail to see that YAHWEH is calling all souls to repentance and obedient. HE said who will go and today the faithful few (144,000) have become certified with HIS Seal to go very soon to finish this work through the worst time people has yet to see, that is the Time of Trouble!

Have a blessed Sabbath

[phkrause]

19 hours ago, Gustave said:

John 5, 28

Yep two resurrections,

John 5:28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,  29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

and than Revelation where the two are shown to be 1000 years apart!!

 

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/28/2021 at 2:14 AM, TrevorL said:

Greetings B/W Photodude and Gustave,

 

Possibly you are waiting to be taken to heaven some time after a universal proclamation of a Sunday Law. Then you also anticipate that the earth burned and desolate for the 1000 years. Prophecy tells a different story and the problems concerning the status of Jerusalem, especially the eastern part and the Temple Mount, will increase and set the stage for Zechariah 14:1-2 and the rest of Zechariah 14 and also Isaiah 2:1-5, Ezekiel 38, Daniel 2:44, Daniel 7:27 and Micah 4:1-8 to be fulfilled. East Jerusalem is where our Lord was crucified. He is the descendant of Abraham to inherit the Land with the faithful during the 1000 years Genesis 13:14-15, Galatians 3:8,16,26-29, and this is part of the True Gospel, not heaven going. Many or most SDAs may yet suffer the second great disappointment unless they start to read the detail of the prophets and the teaching of Jesus and the Apostles correctly. 

Kind regards Trevor

Trevor: I had been an SDA since five and I am going on 71. I starting studying my Bible and the SDA Commentary at 12,  To be honest with you, I have never read anything about a Sunday blue law period in the Bible. All I have read in the Bible, is to keep ELOHIYM'S Commandments. Revelations ends with it! There also three time is mentioned in the Bible ten Commandments. It was never mention by YAHWEH, YAHSHUA or THE HOLY SPIRIT. Nor do we discuss it or maybe look up the word. Ancient words had exact meaning and not shade of meaning like the English. If you don't agree ask the many foreigner who become citizens what do they think! 

When the pioneers started this assembly; it was supposed to follow the Bible. They tried to with all their hearts, however, it was  Uriah Smith who came up with this myth. Sad to say it was accepted by all of the Pioneers that the "mark of the beast," was the Sunday blue law. EGW never had any vision on it; neither do the Bible state anything as well. Find it if you can. Let's be very clear, days of the  week were created by YAHSHUA also time. We think to set time back and forward. But we actually can't the sun is a Law created, all in the beginning and it and the moon moves by YAHSHUA'S order. The only time it changed was during the flood. The water came down from out of the earth and so did water come up! It was placed in one place together call seas. Gen 7:11 The earth had so much water that it moved from where is was placed. The word season in Gen Chapter One is incorrect. Europeans changed it. The different season was given again by THE SON who REPRESENTED THE FATHER and HIS NAME WAS ALSO YAHWEH! Gen 8:22, HE stated: "seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."  Notice night and day as it was in creation would not cease. But the moon could not go around the 30 days every month some were 29 days. There is more to state at a another time.

Flesh beings, nor Satan can change days or time. Sunday cannot be changed to become  a mark. How can you mark a day, you can't! You cannot even touch it to mark it! Only the ELOHIM'S know the time and hour of everything, no not Satan nor did he ever. The reason the Bible call each day that is was good. Have you seen a day sin, nope! Just remember anything that you mark, you can see it and feel it. Read Rev Chapter 17, than Eleven slowly and prayerfully yourself, asking for THE HOLY SPIRIT Understanding.

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

6 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

No one dwell safely in that land today. And sacrifices, they are gone which represented YAHWEH'S SON would soon died. To show you that what you state is based on commentators who will not accept HIS NAME. Neither do you and these Chapters 38-48 dealt with a promise to be fulfilled. The Temple Ezekiel saw also had a Burnt altar. This way if IsraEL would spread the True Message to the other nations and become the True priest like Melchizedek. However, sadly the never did exactly what warned the would do, they did. Deut Chapter 28 They their own children twice when both temples were destroyed. 

Trevor: Forgive me there were some mistakes. So I will correct it. I have a bad right eye and I need to go over it more.

No one dwell safely in that land today. And sacrifices, they are gone which represented YAHWEH'S SON would soon died. To show you that what you state is based on commentators. who will not accept HIS NAME. Neither do you, and these Chapters 38-48 dealt with a promise to be fulfilled. The Temple Ezekiel saw also had a Burnt altar. This way if IsraEL would spread the True Message to the other nations and become the True priest like Melchizedek. However, sadly they never did exactly what they was warned what would happen if they wouldn't , they didn't! The Hebrew Israel as a people are gone which mean their seed is not more. Deut Chapter 28 They ate their own children twice when both temples were destroyed! I hope you understand it better.

Blessings 

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/27/2021 at 9:21 PM, Gustave said:

Its not making any sense to me and not to proud to say this. 

I sorry to say this, truth can be only understood by those who follow these Texts in the Bible. Ps 146:5, 6; Hos 4:6 

Blessings!

[TrevorL]

Greetings Phkrause, 

10 hours ago, phkrause said:

Revelation where the two are shown to be 1000 years apart!!

I believe that the faithful and unfaithful will be resurrected and judged at the return of Jesus. Then at the end of the 1000 years, those mortals who have lived on earth during the 1000 years will be judged, and some of these will be faithful, others unfaithful. This does not fit SDA theology as they believe that the earth will be desolate for the 1000 years, but I believe the details of Isaiah 2:1-5..

Kind regards Trevor

[Gustave]

14 hours ago, phkrause said:

Yep two resurrections,

John 5:28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,  29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

and than Revelation where the two are shown to be 1000 years apart!!

 

 

John 6, 39: "And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." (this speaks of the saved)

John 12, 48: "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." (this speaks of the lost)

The LAST DAY is the last day. 

"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

 

Read John 5,28 again -it says that ALL (both good and bad) will hear His voice at the same time. 

Also read Revelation 11 - again taking note of what it says there. Christ reigns for eternity - here it is.

"And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

You've essentially done the same thing with a short verse in the Book of Daniel - pulled it out of context and made it into an elaborate doctrine that contradicts multiple other Scriptures. I don't pretend to be an expert in Biblical Prophecy and history has clearly said you shouldn't be either. I'm by no means saying you shouldn't believe what you want to believe - I'm just showing you some reasons I don't see it like you do. 

 

[Rahab]

during the 1,000 years there is no man on earth

 

Jer 4:23  I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.