Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 First you have to goto here: http://4hispeopleorg.freewebpages.org/index.html Then you can goto here http://4hispeople.freewebpages.org/Feb%2015%2062%20Birth%20Announcement.jpg Then you can goto here http://4hispeople.freewebpages.org/Ernie%20Bennett.jpg
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 If you read your KJV Bible you will find quite a few of the prophets fell into sin at one time or another.
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 You mean I have to point them out to you ? You don't know them ? Have you ever read your Bible ?
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 They didn't have web sites set up making up dreams to con people into sending them their tithe money.
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 You are going to get banned of this site if you insist on posting links to your site promoting a con artist! What Ernie Knoll has been doing is a felony. He is a criminal! Knock it off!
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I don't know of anyone having web sites setup to get them to send them tithe money or anyone making up dreams for that matter. Do you ?
Guest Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I wouldn't worry too much. I don't think the people are flocking to his website.
Guest Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 So Master Po, Is what you have new light from God?
Woody Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 So Master Po, Is what you have new light from God? Oh Please Richard. He is a wordy as EGW. He can't just outline a few points. He would have to refer you to another entire web site. Please don't encourage him to do that again. May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Â
skyblue888 Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Originally Posted By: skyblue888 It is not very difficult to know if the dreams are from God or not. It is not very difficult to tell between truth and error. At the present time the Lord is not sending visions. Why? because before the Holy Spirit is poured out in large measure, the people must accept, believe, and act upon the 1888 message because that was the message that He sent to us, that if it had been received, believed, and acted upon, He could have finished the work and cut it short in righteousness shortly after 1888. The work of preaching the Gospel in all the world in demonstration of the Spirit and power of God has been delayed ever since the rejection that took place in 1888 and the years that followed. The evidence of this is found in a testimony that was sent in the year 1901 which said, "We may have to remain in this world because of insubordination many more years, as did the children of Israel." Evangelism, 696; Letter 184, 1901. So all those who come forward claiming to having received visions from God while having no burden whatsoever to revive the 1888 message or having no clue as to what that message really is, cannot be said to have a message from God for the Lord will not send us more light until that message is received, believed, and acted upon just as Mrs. White stated: "Amid the confusing cries, 'Lo, here is Christ! Lo, there is Christ!' will be borne a special testimony, a special message of truth appropriate for this time, which message is to be received, believed, and acted upon. It is the truth, not fanciful ideas, that is efficacious." E.G.White, B.C. Vol.7a,428. This special testimony, this special message of truth is the 1888 message which Mrs. White stated in so many different ways but always the same message: In 1888 "The blood of Christ was to be presented to the people with freshness and power that their faith might lay hold upon its merits." T.M.92. "Believe it because it is the truth, because God says it, and lay hold upon the meritorious blood of a crucified and risen Saviour." F.W.76. As we lay hold by faith of the merits of that precious blood, which is of value beyond estimate, the righteousness of Christ is brought into the life and we are made partakers of the divine nature which is made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God. See F.W.65,66 and T.M.92,93,97. I believe this is the message that God commanded to be given to the church and to the world and it will be attended with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in large measure. See T.M.92. sky *I have not seen the 1888 message presented by Ernie Knoll or by anyone else connected with him in any way, shape, or form. Have you? This is the "box" I am talking about. Oh okay. Sorry but I just can't see a box. On the contrary extolling the merits of Christ and the necessity of appropriating them by faith on a daily basis is to think out of the "box" for the merits of Christ blot out transgressions and clothe us with the panoply of Heaven and bring to us all the treasures of God's grace. So as you can see accepting the merits of Christ, believing it is our privilege to claim them brings untold blessings, even the whole heavenly treasure. This is the message that God commanded to be given to the world and soon it will be attended with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in large measure and then there will be prophesying again and visions and dreams. sky "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Ernie Knoll is not a con artist by any means. The method he has been using to intake funds may be of questionable in nature, and I would much prefer to see the funds be taken in by a committee instead of by and individual or two, but I have no say so in that matter. If Doug Batchelor or Shawn Boostra or other sda oversite committee would step in and oversee the inflow & outflow of the funds, that would be the best thing. And what Ernie & Becky Knoll are currently doing compared to what the rest of the religious world is doing, PALES in comparision as far as thier errors are concerned. And if you can't see that, your as blind as a bat !
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Sky, If we accept what Jesus has done for us, we have accepted His merits, even though we have not said as much. The birth, life, death, resurrection of Jesus, is the means of which we have a method of obtaining salvation. Wordage notwithstanding, I believe we are essentially saying the same thing.
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Pixie Chickie, I will have you know that Ernie & Becky Knoll sent me the book Creeping Compromise and The Messages Book without me sending one red cent in to them.
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I think you should check on your links. Your free account doesn't allow you to post "hot links".
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Shawn Boonstra or Doug Batchelor? You've got to be kidding! There is not one single SDA minister that I know of who backs Ernie up or believes his dreams are from God. According to what I've read, Shawn Boonstra and Doug Batchelor want nothing to do with Ernie Knoll and have refused to meet with or talk to him.
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Of course they did. They used the money donated by others to do that. They certainly didn't spend the money they earned from working at legitimate jobs.
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Why do you answer questions posted to you with more questions? Let's get real here and give some examples that compare to what Ernie Knoll has done. Ernie Knoll conjured up Candace because the donations were not coming in and he was afraid he would not be able to continue to live the same lifestyle he was growing accustomed to. Ernie Knoll even included Candace in one of his dreams so clearly he made up that dream and since he is so good at making up elaborate lies as clearly illustrated in the report from "The Great Council", it is obvious to anyone who has any sense that Ernie has been conning people all along! One day he's sending out e-mails that he fears Candace is an evil angel! Several days later he writes everyone informing them he has determined the dreams were not of God but from Satan. Then he writes everyone and confesses to making up Candace and The Great Council because he got caught! Now he's lying again and claiming everything he said prior about the dreams being from an evil source wasn't true, that they are really from God. Give me a break!
skyblue888 Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Sky, If we accept what Jesus has done for us, we have accepted His merits, even though we have not said as much. The birth, life, death, resurrection of Jesus, is the means of which we have a method of obtaining salvation. Wordage notwithstanding, I believe we are essentially saying the same thing. Accepting Jesus is a mere "cliche" nowadays. The Evangelicals and the Catholics have accepted Jesus. Everybody is born again. I don't agree that to accept Jesus is to automatically accepting His merits for not one in one hundred understands for himself the matter of merits. "Many have a nominal faith in Christ, but they know nothing of that vital dependence upon Him which appropriates the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour." 1 S.M.389. "There is not one in one hundred who understands for himself the Bible truth on this subject that is so necessary to our present and eternal welfare." 1 S.M.360. When was the last time you have heard a lecture on the necessity of appropriating the merits of Christ to ourselves? Whenever I speak on the merits of Christ I am asked what I mean by the "merits" of Christ or "what are the merits of Christ" and yet He is the only One who has merits for our salvation and unless we claim them we cannot be saved. When did u last hear this: "Unless he makes it his lifebusiness to behold the uplifted Saviour and to accept the merits which it is his privilege to claim, the sinner can no more be saved than Peter could walk upon the water unless he kept his eyes fixed steadily upon Jesus." T.M.93 This clearly means that we must kept our eyes fixed steadily upon Jesus and appropriate His merits, that is, we must accept His merits and bring them to God, and present them to Him as our only hope for time and eternity and then the Father receives us to Himself and clothes us with the glistening vesture of Christ's righteousness which accomplishes everything being made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God. See T.M.92. This is the message that God commanded to be given to the world and which is to be attended with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in large measure. See T.M.92. Many have lost sight of Jesus. They need to have their eyes directed to Him, to His divine Person, to His merits. See T.M.92. sky "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Guest Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Hey sky, is it ok for a true prophet to tell a few lies here and there?
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Pixie Chickie, That is why I had posted the first page for you to click on, and then the 2nd page, and then the 3rd. I knew it would not allow hot links. And I have added, and added (I don't know how many times), my picture and birth announcement, but everytime I post it, it does not show up. I need to find a better free site. I have no doubt that all the dreams are from God. Candace and the GC was made up. How Ernie & Becky Knoll are going to handle it all from here I don't know. But there are important messages that is way, way more important than thier, or my, creature comfort, or the creature comfort of Doug or Shawn, or any other sda minister. I for one, am at extreme odds with my ownself in my own spiritual life, when I look upon the life of Jesus, and see what He went through, and I compare that to what I am going through, and it is nothing in comparision. I do believe the world is on a precipice, and we who know that and realize that have an obligation to get that message out to the rest of the world.
Master Po Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Richard, I didn't say it was OK, I said that prophets make mistakes like everyone else.
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Did you my friend Linda Kirk was editing Ernie's dreams? Ernie would e-mail them to Linda and she would correct the spelling, punctuation and grammar. Ernie told him he was told in a dream by The Herald that Linda's husband, Brian Kirk, who I also know personally, was to read the dreams after Linda prepared them and he (Brian) was to approve them. After that, the dream was to be sent directly to the web master of the 4HisPeople web site without going through Ernie first, that they were to be posted on the site just as they appeared as when Brian gave them the final approval. This was because this is what the angel told Ernie was supposed to happen. Time and time again, the dreams would be changed when they appeared on the board, even though God's angel had instructed the specific procedure that needed to take place. What about that Ernie?
Pickie Chickie Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 EDIT: Did you know my friend Linda Kirk was editing Ernie's dreams? Ernie would e-mail them to Linda and she would correct the spelling, punctuation and grammar because this is what The Herald (Ernie's angel) told him to do. Ernie told Linda and Brian Kirk he was told in a dream by The Herald that Brian Kirk, who I also know personally, was to read the dreams after Linda prepared them and he (Brian) was to approve them. After that, the dream was to be sent directly to the web master of the 4HisPeople web site without going through Ernie first, that they were to be posted on the site just as they appeared as when Brian gave them the final approval. Linda and Brian Kirk both report time and time again the content of the dreams would be noticeably changed when they appeared on the board, that they were not as Brian had approved, even though God's angel had instructed the specific procedure that needed to take place. What about that Ernie?
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