Woody Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 No. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Twilight Posted August 14, 2009 Author Posted August 14, 2009 No. Why not? I have nothing to hide, Sky has nothing to hide. You have just questioned our individuality. I am just returning the compliment. We could do a very simple IP test in front of witnesses. That way your question could be answered and so could mine. Mark. Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Woody Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 The ball is in YOUR court not mine. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Twilight Posted August 14, 2009 Author Posted August 14, 2009 The ball is in YOUR court not mine. So if myself and Sky prove that we are in fact individuals, then you will also agree to do the same with Robert? In fact, I am logging off now. But I am going to ask Sky to work with me to prove our individuality. Whether you reveal your ip address or not. Once we have done that, the ball will be firmly in your court I believe. Mark Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Woody Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Whatever .... Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Lutz13 Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Once you learn to love God and your fellow man Can I just point out that this is not "learned" but "given"? Mark :-) Is everything an argument around here? Shall I get technical and tell you that I learned how to read and was able to read Gods word and follow Him? Quote
Woody Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 I think that Stan just might "amen" what you said .... but then you and Stan might be accused of being the same person and you would have to prove your IPs. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Guest Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Hey all, Redwood and Robert don't talk alike. Redwood dosn't preach Hell Fire and Brimstone, and constantly tell you you're wrong because you are keeping the law for selfish reasons, or you're a legalist because you keep the Sabbath. Robert does. Redwood claims to be a SDA. Robert says he's glad he left the SDA church. Redwood dosn't enlarge the words so that they fill up the whole screen. Robert does. I've never heard Redwood call anyone a heretic. I don't know anyone that Robert hasn't called a heretic...except maybe Redwood. hmmmmm.....Nah. Quote
Moderators John317 Posted August 14, 2009 Moderators Posted August 14, 2009 You're right in your conclusion that Robert and Redwood aren't one and the same individual. That I can guarantee. Neither are Twilight and sky the same person. Now that's settled: Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Robert Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 "Every command is a promise." C.O.L.38; Educ.126; M.B.76. Then why are you and I not perfect? Quote
Members phkrause Posted August 14, 2009 Members Posted August 14, 2009 So you are Redwood? :):) pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Robert Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Originally Posted By: Robert How much of the imparted righteousness of Christ are you relying on? [/quote'] Do you understand what you are asking me? What do you think the "imparted" righteousness is? Mark Christ working through you.... "Remain in Me" [imputed righteousness] is the gospel received by faith "and I will remain in you" [imparted righteousness] is the fruit of the gospel or Christ working though you.... So how much of the imparted righteousness saves you? 50% imparted & 50 imputed??? Tell me...(please) Rob Quote
skyblue888 Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Originally Posted By: Twilight Christ working through you.... "Remain in Me" [imputed righteousness] is the gospel received by faith "and I will remain in you" [imparted righteousness] is the fruit of the gospel or Christ working though you.... So how much of the imparted righteousness saves you? 50% imparted & 50 imputed??? Tell me...(please) Rob Justification is 100% imputed and sanctification is 100% imparted. Those who walk through the everlasting gates will have been justified and sanctified and yet they will say, "We have no right to the city. If we walk through the everlasting gates it will be solely on account of the all-sufficient merits of the spotless Lamb of God. We did nothing at all. Christ did it all. It was His grace that enabled us to do the good works for which He rewards us and these works are accepted only through the merits of His infinite sacrifice. We are unprofitable servants. We deserve no thanks from God." See Luke 17:10. To them the Lord will say, "Blessed are you! Good and faithful servants! To you the gates are wide opened. Enter in." But to those who trust in their good works to give them an entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven, the Lord will say, "I do not know you. Depart from Me ye workers of iniquity" and "treason" will be written beside their names. "If you would gather together everything that is good and holy and noble and lovely in man and then present the subject to the angels of God as acting a part in the salvation of the soul or in merit, the proposition would be rejected as treason." F.W.24. "There is salvation for you but only through the merits of Jesus Christ." T.M.97. sky Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Robert Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Justification is 100% imputed and sanctification is 100% imparted. That would be 200%....That's bad math on your behalf! You are 100% righteous "in Christ"....You can't add to that.... Quote
Robert Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Justification is 100% imputed and sanctification is 100% imparted. Not only are you justified "in Christ", but you already stand "sanctified" in Him also....: Hebrews 10:9 then he added, "Lo, I have come to do thy will." He abolishes the first in order to establish the second. 10 And by that will we have been [past tense] sanctified [how?] through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 1 Cor 1:30 It is because of him [God] that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, sanctification and redemption. "In Christ" you already stand justified, sanctified and glorified "in Him"....You are compete "in the Beloved"!!! Quote
Guest Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 At every stage of development our life may be perfect; yet if God's purpose for us is fulfilled, there will be continual advancement. Sanctification is the work of a lifetime. {COL 65.2} Quote
Robert Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 At every stage of development our life may be perfect... No, that is false.... You are always imperfect as far as the spirit of the law is concerned.... Quote
Woody Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Originally Posted By: Richard Holbrook At every stage of development our life may be perfect... No, that is false.... You are always imperfect as far as the spirit of the law is concerned.... You would be correct in that regard Rob. If I may agree with you without reprisals from others. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Guest Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Sanctification is the work of a lifetime. {COL 65.2} Quote
Robert Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Sanctification is the work of a lifetime. {COL 65.2} Meaning you never arrive....In fact she says that as long as life shall last we'll never attain to perfection....Look it up....It's in Acts of the Apostles. Rob PS: It's a good thing we already stand "sanctified" in Christ! Quote
Guest Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Saviour showed that through co-operation with Divinity, human beings may in this life attain to perfection of character. This is God's assurance to us that we, too, may obtain complete victory. {AA 531.2} Quote
Robert Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Saviour showed that through co-operation with Divinity, human beings may in this life attain to perfection of character. This is God's assurance to us that we, too, may obtain complete victory. {AA 531.2} I guess you're not co-operating very well, huh? Saying that it's possible and doing it are two different things....BTW, she states that as long as life shall last that there'll be stopping point were we can say I have arrived....You are falling short, even though you grow....You are never living Christ's life of complete unselfishness....There's self-seeking and self-love in your life....That makes you a sinner... Quote
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