The General Conference Inquisition

[olger]

Perhaps this will help, Mark. Redwood made this statement in 2008.

“I sin willfully all the time. I will sin until the day I die. Praise God ... He has made provisions for those sins. Just like David ... conspiring to kill on his death bed. And he was a man after God's own heart. It goes back to that which I don't want to do ... I do and that which I want to do .... I don't do. We live in a sinful world. Praise God .... He loves me anyways” (Redwood).

Compulsive sin, or compulsive negativism?

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[Woody]

You will notice that this statement of which I stand by to this day ... is far from saying that it is okay to willfully sin which is what Mark is accusing me of saying.

Yes, I will continue to sin till I die. And as I have stated ... ALL sin is willful. But, that does not mean that I think it is okay. And it does not mean that I want to sin. I do that though that I want not to do. And will continue to do so till I die.

If you think you are perfect .. you are a fraud and there is no light in you. I am just the only one willing here to admit it.

Praise God I am saved. Not on the basis of whether I sin or not ... but on the basis of the fact that JESUS didn't sin.

Now ... continue with your lies about me ...

[olger]

Nice try, but it's pretty easy to see that your statement is selling something that is verbotten in God's Word.

"Provision for the flesh" (Romans 13:14).

Now go do the right thing,

ger

[Woody]

I continue to try olger. But I will also continue to fail.

How many times do you not allow the Holy Spirit to change your life? Have you arrived yet or do you also need to go and do the right thing? I suspect you are no different than I. A sinner saved by Grace.

[olger]

Yes, I will continue to sin till I die. And as I have stated ... ALL sin is willful.

I have a few suggestions that may help you get free from behavioural negativism. Each of them involve the word "make."

Instead of Making Excuses for your conduct, why not..

Make your Calling & Election sure (1 Peter 1:10). Peter says that will keep a believer from falling (v. 10).

Instead of "making provision for the flesh" why not..

Make straight paths for your feet (Hebrews 12:13).

Paul says that will heal the disabled (v. 13).

I hope you "make" it.

ger

[Woody]

I don't need your help and don't want it. I have not asked for your suggestions. For with your belief in legalism ... "you will not be saved." "You are lost" "I know you are lost. Because you do not know the Lord." (To try a little Markisms on you!!) lol

I intend to quote Mark each time you guys want to try to slander me and convert me to your legalism. So ... continue as you were.

Hey ... just like Ellen White's list of those going to Hell ... we could make our own list of Forum members who are going to Hell. My name could be on the top of list and olger ... your name could be second. Well maybe you and Mark could be a tie for second.

[Twilight]

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Redwood, if you do not want to be "misrepresented", then please state your case.

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If you believe that you are saved whilst practicing willfull sin, which you have expressed on this board over and over again, then the above applies to you.

But if you do not believe that, then of course I would withdraw the above.

So please, clarify your position so that I can know if the above is applicable to you or not.

As far as I am aware, you have clearly communicated that you are saved in willful sin.

Over and over.

If that has been misunderstood, then here is your opportunity to correct that misunderstanding.

Mark

How many times I have I told you that you have lied and misrepresented my views? How many times have I explained my beliefs? Does it do any good? I am sick and tired of telling you how I believe and then to have lies posted about it and being told I am going to Hell because of your twisted lies about my beliefs.

Just take my word for it before condemning me. I've stated ... that you lie about my beliefs. Enough said.

And Mark ... I've had enough discussions with you.

I don't care to discuss things with anyone who is dishonest with what I say.

And I don't care to discuss things with people who condemn others to Hell. You are not God.

Mark. I don't need you to correct me. I am not asking you to help me. I don't need your help and don't want it. I don't need you to even understand me. What I need is for you to stick with the issues. State your theories and beliefs. But stop stating MY beliefs. Let me do that as I please. Thank you.

I am a liar?

Because I ask you to clearly represent your views?

Why is it that you will not put this to bed, with a simple explanation.

You are avoiding the question.

This time, by calling me a liar...

I do not think that is an appropriate charge to make and ask that you withdraw that accusation.

Mark

[Stan]

Both of you, take it private.